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Old February 2, 2015, 09:49 AM   #1
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Rolling block replica identification

I have what looks like a Remington 1871 Rolling block 45-70 replica in excellent condition. There are no manufacturer markings, but has a 5 digit serial number 15xxx. a 30" fully blued barrel and action and a Williams aperture sight. Most accurate at 100 yard! Any ideas who manufactures such replicas?
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Old February 2, 2015, 09:59 AM   #2
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Pedersoli makes a Rolling Block and I think Uberti used to for Navy Arms. The current Uberti is based on the small No 2 action with distinctive angled rear action surface.

If imported as a complete rifle, they would have Italian proof marks, though.
Perhaps yours was a shop job on a repro action.
Or maybe it is an original with the markings buffed off.
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Old February 2, 2015, 07:05 PM   #3
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Or one of the many unlicensed copies turned out when the RB was a common military rifle.

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Old February 2, 2015, 08:59 PM   #4
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Rolling block replica identification

Could the markings be under the stock on the bottom of the barrel?...or elsewhere? This one has a large screw cap in the middle of the butt plate. Nothing on the inside of the stock hole...perhaps for cleaning supplies.
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Old February 3, 2015, 12:12 AM   #5
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Pictures?
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Old February 3, 2015, 09:21 AM   #6
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^^^^^
Yep, under the stock is the best place to check on RBs, unless of course the rifle was buffed out and reblued.
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Old February 3, 2015, 02:42 PM   #7
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I have both a custom Remington #1 & an old Navy Arms... this is my Navy Arms 40-65...





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Old February 3, 2015, 04:58 PM   #8
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Rolling block replica identification

I have since received the identification from markings...
Stamped on my Remington 45-70 Rolling Block rifle are the following markings on the back stock strap behind the hammer:

E. REMINGTON & SONS . ILION NY U.S.A.
PAT MAY 30 1874 MAY - JUNE 11-16 - NOV 12-18 DEC 24 1918
DEC 31 1?18 SEPT 9?? 1873 JAN 12TH MARCH 1870 1874

The 5 digit serial number is 152##

So it is a genuine "Remington", and NOT a replica. I'm pleased!
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Old February 3, 2015, 05:06 PM   #9
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Don't know if I have a pic of my patent dates, but someone should be able to tell you if it's a #1, #2 or ???? ( #1's were black powder rated, & likely have earlier patent dates ) my breech block is newer ( smokeless ) & hammer modified when I bought this one...

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Old September 18, 2017, 04:41 PM   #10
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I have a navy arms pedersoli rolling block only info is on the left side of the receiver it has a 23.25 half octagon half round barrel under the forward stock is made Italy it has all the brass trigger guard butt plate and receiver plate and barrel ring any information
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Old September 18, 2017, 10:19 PM   #11
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Umberto and Pietroselli both make good both make good repros bu they're not as good as a real Remy. Congrats!!
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Old September 18, 2017, 11:40 PM   #12
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The 1918 patent date pretty much limits it to a #5 military action. These were chambered for smokeless military cartridges like the 7X57, 30-03, etc. It was likely rebarreled by a gunsmith somewhere who didn't think it was important to put his name on it.
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