if you were fighting In WWI what rifle would you choose

smleno1mkIII · November 7, 2009, 02:03 AM

Hmm. Enfield,03 springfield, gewehr 98 , steyr mannlicher,ross ,p17, 03turk, chau chau na just kidding lol.

SigP6Carry · November 7, 2009, 03:04 AM

I'm thinking whatever whichever army gave me. Also, just a heads up, if you use correct spelling and capitalization, it looks a lot better than it does as is.

edit: I believe it's Gewehr, Chauchat and I'm not sure what this 03 Turk is you mean.

But, I'd presonally prefer one a K-11 or M1887, myself.

Chipperman · November 7, 2009, 10:01 AM

There's an old saying:
When going to WWI, the Germans took a hunting rifle, the Americans took a target rifle, and the Brits took a battle rifle.

Any of them will do the job. In WWI, I'd be more interested in staying deep underground than what rifle I was carrying.

the rifleer · November 7, 2009, 10:57 AM

Well if i was fighting it wouldn't be a video game where you can choose your weapon and your team, however i would want either an m1 Garand or a 1903 Springfield and a 1911 on my side.

Parapliers · November 7, 2009, 11:12 AM

British Enfield for the magazine capacity and the sights. My favorite rifle today is the 03-A3 for the magazine cut-off and the sights. I wish someone would make a mini - 03 in stainless steel and chambered for intermediate cartridges.

Crosshair · November 7, 2009, 12:17 PM

Enfield, no question. I hear the Remington Model 8 performed favorably in testing, so it might be nice to have an auto loader.

Renfield · November 7, 2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

however i would want either an m1 Garand

M-1 Garand wasn't used in World War I, it wasn't adopted until 1936 or so

I'd want a Springfield

Buzzcook · November 7, 2009, 01:36 PM

Dulce et Decorum Est

1 Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
2 Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
3 Till on the haunting flares we turned out backs,
4 And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
5 Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
6 But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame, all blind;
7 Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
8 Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.

9 Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!--An ecstasy of fumbling
10 Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
11 But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
12 And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime.--
13 Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
14 As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

15 In all my dreams before my helpless sight
16 He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

17 If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
18 Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
19 And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
20 His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin,
21 If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
22 Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs
23 Bitter as the cud
24 Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,--
25 My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
26 To children ardent for some desperate glory,
27 The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
28 Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Owen

I opt for the artillery.

**Mike Irwin** · November 7, 2009, 02:09 PM

Lee Enfield.

Hands down.

Dragon55 · November 7, 2009, 02:22 PM

The old '303' was/is so tough it continued in use for decades.

GunnyBunny · November 7, 2009, 02:28 PM

.303 Brit.

The Enfield is still in use around the world today.

SigP6Carry · November 7, 2009, 02:48 PM

OH! I forgot: BAR! I'd want a BAR! But that's 1917, so it's the end of the war. Otherwise, I stand by my prior statements.

mp25ds4 · November 7, 2009, 04:35 PM

Enfield no question, smooth action and overall operation. its accurate, holds and reliably feeds 10 rounds, what more could you ask for?

B. Lahey · November 7, 2009, 05:05 PM

I would take a Fusil Automatique Modele 1917, the first mostly reliable semiauto. And even if it got gunked up, it made an acceptable straight-pull.

Awhawhaw! Call me Frenchy, they probably had better food too.

johnwilliamson062 · November 7, 2009, 06:14 PM

I was going to also go with K11, but I like the FAM 1917 also.

smleno1mkIII · November 7, 2009, 07:31 PM

you don't know what a 1903 turkish mauser is you know the turkish mausers you used to be able to buy at big 5 for 50 bucks those were turkish 38's updated models of the 03. the 03 was originally chamberd in 7.65 argie the 38 is an updated version in 8mm mauser since the turkes switched instead of using boththey were used a galippoli along with german gewehr 98's in 8mm by the end of the war they had about equal numbers of each so they chose to standerise the 8mm so the 03 were rebarrled to 8mm

Flipper 56 · November 7, 2009, 08:57 PM

Kind of partial to a Swedish Mauser M-96

But an SMLE and "Ten Rounds Rapid" would be nice

However a Winchester 1897 "Trench Broom", now we are talking
"Up Close and personal"

mavracer · November 7, 2009, 09:10 PM

I'd be happy with my P17 heck it's 90 years old and will still do this at 100Yards.

cornbush · November 7, 2009, 09:12 PM

The '03 Springfield would be my impulse pick, but for a BATTLE rifle, have to go for the Enfield.

p99guy · November 8, 2009, 12:04 AM

a good Enfield No1 MkIII hands down....and I say that having shot/owned its rivals/ stablemates

here is my 1916 BSA made, Canadian issued one

James K · November 8, 2009, 12:10 AM

The only problem with selecting an M1 rifle in WWI is finding a reliable power source for your time machine.

Jim

Southern_guy · November 8, 2009, 12:24 AM

Ignition Override · November 8, 2009, 12:30 AM

Based on having my first (full-length, from WW2) LE #4/1 the LE.

Other than the LE #4, #5, my only milsurp is a MN 44.

A (marksman) friend who set some iron sight records with the AR (200 & 600 yards), had never used an LE. We were at 'MSSA' in Lakeland and he tried four rounds from 50 yards with this #4, and they were just outside the bullseye.

He then sat on the ground with no artificial support and tried one shot from 100 yards.
The hole was in the middle of the bullseye. Mike said "I quit".

Tikirocker · November 8, 2009, 06:07 AM

I think my choice is pretty obvious ... she measures .311 at the grooves and was used by my countrymen for WW1, WWII and Korea.

Tiki.

Blue Grass · November 8, 2009, 09:07 AM

Why, the Ross of course. Nothing like having the bolt come back and go thru your fore head if you don't reassemble it correctly.

November 7, 2009, 02:03 AM	#1
smleno1mkIII Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 176	if you were fighting In WWI what rifle would you choose Hmm. Enfield,03 springfield, gewehr 98 , steyr mannlicher,ross ,p17, 03turk, chau chau na just kidding lol. Last edited by smleno1mkIII; November 7, 2009 at 07:21 PM.

November 7, 2009, 03:04 AM	#2
SigP6Carry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1,086	I'm thinking whatever whichever army gave me. Also, just a heads up, if you use correct spelling and capitalization, it looks a lot better than it does as is. edit: I believe it's Gewehr, Chauchat and I'm not sure what this 03 Turk is you mean. But, I'd presonally prefer one a K-11 or M1887, myself. __________________ -liberal gun nut = exception to the rule- -1.24274238 miles, because Russians don't need scopes- -Gun control was the Klan's favorite law, how can you advocate a set of laws designed to allow the denigration of a people?- Last edited by SigP6Carry; November 7, 2009 at 03:09 AM.

November 7, 2009, 12:17 PM	#6
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,333	Enfield, no question. I hear the Remington Model 8 performed favorably in testing, so it might be nice to have an auto loader. __________________ I don't carry a gun to go looking for trouble, I carry a gun in case trouble finds me.

November 7, 2009, 02:09 PM	#9
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Lee Enfield. Hands down. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

November 7, 2009, 02:22 PM	#10
Dragon55 Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2009 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 811	+1 on the Enfield The old '303' was/is so tough it continued in use for decades. __________________ sailing ... A way to spend lots of money and go real S L O W

November 7, 2009, 10:01 AM	#3
Chipperman Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2000 Location: Live Free or Die, Baby! Posts: 1,550	There's an old saying: When going to WWI, the Germans took a hunting rifle, the Americans took a target rifle, and the Brits took a battle rifle. Any of them will do the job. In WWI, I'd be more interested in staying deep underground than what rifle I was carrying.

November 7, 2009, 10:57 AM	#4
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,281	Well if i was fighting it wouldn't be a video game where you can choose your weapon and your team, however i would want either an m1 Garand or a 1903 Springfield and a 1911 on my side.

November 7, 2009, 11:12 AM	#5
Parapliers Junior member Join Date: June 10, 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 98	Favorite WWI Rifle British Enfield for the magazine capacity and the sights. My favorite rifle today is the 03-A3 for the magazine cut-off and the sights. I wish someone would make a mini - 03 in stainless steel and chambered for intermediate cartridges.

November 7, 2009, 01:36 PM	#8
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	Dulce et Decorum Est 1 Bent double, like old beggars under sacks, 2 Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge, 3 Till on the haunting flares we turned out backs, 4 And towards our distant rest began to trudge. 5 Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots, 6 But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame, all blind; 7 Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots 8 Of gas-shells dropping softly behind. 9 Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!--An ecstasy of fumbling 10 Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time, 11 But someone still was yelling out and stumbling 12 And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime.-- 13 Dim through the misty panes and thick green light, 14 As under a green sea, I saw him drowning. 15 In all my dreams before my helpless sight 16 He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning. 17 If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace 18 Behind the wagon that we flung him in, 19 And watch the white eyes writhing in his face, 20 His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin, 21 If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood 22 Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs 23 Bitter as the cud 24 Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,-- 25 My friend, you would not tell with such high zest 26 To children ardent for some desperate glory, 27 The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est 28 Pro patria mori. Wilfred Owen I opt for the artillery.

November 7, 2009, 02:28 PM	#11
GunnyBunny Member Join Date: June 14, 2008 Location: Victoria, B.C. Posts: 43	.303 Brit. The Enfield is still in use around the world today. __________________ CCW permit holder Idaho, Utah, Pennsylvania, Maine, and New Hampshire. I can carry in your country, but not my own.

November 7, 2009, 02:48 PM	#12
SigP6Carry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1,086	OH! I forgot: BAR! I'd want a BAR! But that's 1917, so it's the end of the war. Otherwise, I stand by my prior statements. __________________ -liberal gun nut = exception to the rule- -1.24274238 miles, because Russians don't need scopes- -Gun control was the Klan's favorite law, how can you advocate a set of laws designed to allow the denigration of a people?-

November 7, 2009, 04:35 PM	#13
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	Enfield no question, smooth action and overall operation. its accurate, holds and reliably feeds 10 rounds, what more could you ask for? __________________ Liberal Newscaster Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: 'What do you feel.....when you shoot a Terrorist?' The Marine shrugged and replied, "A Slight Recoil."

November 7, 2009, 05:05 PM	#14
B. Lahey Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,857	I would take a Fusil Automatique Modele 1917, the first mostly reliable semiauto. And even if it got gunked up, it made an acceptable straight-pull. Awhawhaw! Call me Frenchy, they probably had better food too. __________________ "A human being is primarily a bag for putting food into; the other functions and faculties may be more godlike, but in point of time they come afterwards." -George Orwell

November 7, 2009, 06:14 PM	#15
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	I was going to also go with K11, but I like the FAM 1917 also.

November 7, 2009, 07:31 PM	#16
smleno1mkIII Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2009 Location: washington state Posts: 176	you don't know what a 1903 turkish mauser is you know the turkish mausers you used to be able to buy at big 5 for 50 bucks those were turkish 38's updated models of the 03. the 03 was originally chamberd in 7.65 argie the 38 is an updated version in 8mm mauser since the turkes switched instead of using boththey were used a galippoli along with german gewehr 98's in 8mm by the end of the war they had about equal numbers of each so they chose to standerise the 8mm so the 03 were rebarrled to 8mm

November 7, 2009, 08:57 PM	#17
Flipper 56 Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 165	Kind of partial to a Swedish Mauser M-96 But an SMLE and "Ten Rounds Rapid" would be nice However a Winchester 1897 "Trench Broom", now we are talking "Up Close and personal" __________________ To Err is human, To Forgive divine, But to forget is foolish. Last edited by Flipper 56; November 7, 2009 at 08:58 PM. Reason: Flow

November 7, 2009, 09:12 PM	#19
cornbush Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: The retarded place below Idaho Posts: 1,408	The '03 Springfield would be my impulse pick, but for a BATTLE rifle, have to go for the Enfield.

November 8, 2009, 12:04 AM	#20
p99guy Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2004 Location: Haslet,Texas(DFW area) Posts: 1,506	a good Enfield No1 MkIII hands down....and I say that having shot/owned its rivals/ stablemates here is my 1916 BSA made, Canadian issued one __________________ Lighten up Francis!.....;Actor Warren Oats, in the movie "Stripes" Last edited by p99guy; November 8, 2009 at 12:11 AM.

November 8, 2009, 12:10 AM	#21
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	The only problem with selecting an M1 rifle in WWI is finding a reliable power source for your time machine. Jim

November 8, 2009, 12:24 AM	#22
Southern_guy Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 175

November 8, 2009, 12:30 AM	#23
Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,887	Based on having my first (full-length, from WW2) LE #4/1 the LE. Other than the LE #4, #5, my only milsurp is a MN 44. A (marksman) friend who set some iron sight records with the AR (200 & 600 yards), had never used an LE. We were at 'MSSA' in Lakeland and he tried four rounds from 50 yards with this #4, and they were just outside the bullseye. He then sat on the ground with no artificial support and tried one shot from 100 yards. The hole was in the middle of the bullseye. Mike said "I quit". Last edited by Ignition Override; November 8, 2009 at 09:24 PM.

November 8, 2009, 06:07 AM	#24
Tikirocker Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2007 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 909	I think my choice is pretty obvious ... she measures .311 at the grooves and was used by my countrymen for WW1, WWII and Korea. Tiki. __________________ The Lee Enfield forums - http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewforum.php?f=27 Surplus Rifle Forums - http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/index.php

November 8, 2009, 09:07 AM	#25
Blue Grass Senior Member Join Date: August 12, 2009 Posts: 398	Why, the Ross of course. Nothing like having the bolt come back and go thru your fore head if you don't reassemble it correctly.