Another safe question please

whitearrow · September 30, 2017, 07:58 PM

Aight fellas as some of you know I posted about what to put under my 1,500 lb browning safe. I was thinking hockey pucks or magic sliders at the corners. Now I've heard about 1/2" thick horse stall mats. I wonder how much one of these would compress under the weight of my safe?? More so than hockey pucks??
Thanks,
BigEd

Rottweiler · October 1, 2017, 08:14 AM

I wouldn't put anything under it that would allow someone an easier access to picking it up. Bolt it directly to the floor

FITASC · October 1, 2017, 09:51 AM

The horse weighs as much as your safe and has a much smaller footprint.........

**4V50 Gary** · October 1, 2017, 10:19 AM

Hockey pucks are used for the heavy machinery (lathes/mills) at school.

whitearrow · October 2, 2017, 10:15 PM

Ok fellas would it be better to sit the safe down on the stall mat or to cut the mat so just the sides are supporting the weight,in effect making skis to sit the safe on, creating some air flow this way even if the mat deformed some of at least 1/4"?
Thanks,
BigEd

Nlight1 · October 2, 2017, 10:33 PM

Mine sits on 2"x4"

reynolds357 · October 3, 2017, 07:40 PM

Put it on two pieces like skis. It will make it even easier to break into.

MagnumWill · October 4, 2017, 07:58 AM

Yeah, is there a specific reason you're doing this? I'm thinking about elevating my safe about a half-inch or so, but it would be on additional concrete. You don't want ANY ability to get a San Angelo bar underneath it.

whitearrow · October 4, 2017, 08:32 AM

Just trying to think of everything before 1,500lb hits the floor. Really trying to keep rust from forming on the bottom of the safe. Creating some airflow without too much of a gap sounds like a sound plan to me but wanted y'alls input too.
Thanks,
BigEd

Dufus · October 4, 2017, 12:29 PM

My safes are sitting on a piece of carpet cut to fit. They are indoors where the humidity is controlled. Haven't seen any rust. They are all anchored thru the carpet.

MagnumWill · October 5, 2017, 08:07 AM

Yes, that's why I want to elevate mine as well, let's say if a pipe breaks when you're on vacation. I have not only the sump pump, but a large boiler drain that I could rely on if the water gets about a half-inch deep. We're going to have ceramic floor down there so in the grand scheme of things we'd have a couple wet carpets and some drywall/paint to do.

I think the carpet is a good idea as well, just as long as the anchors poke through it.

Until it does get wet, however... then it may get moldy and it would be a real pain to remove...

I just did some precursory research on hardiebacker's compressive strength (the cement-style drywall you use for inside showers and such) and it's saying it's at 7,000 PSI compressive strength. I think weight of safe + torque from anchors won't get near that, so that may be a good option. It's easy to work with, and if you're concerned about rust you could Dremel an airflow channel or something on the surfaces.

September 30, 2017, 07:58 PM	#1
whitearrow Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2008 Location: the great state of MS Posts: 147	Another safe question please Aight fellas as some of you know I posted about what to put under my 1,500 lb browning safe. I was thinking hockey pucks or magic sliders at the corners. Now I've heard about 1/2" thick horse stall mats. I wonder how much one of these would compress under the weight of my safe?? More so than hockey pucks?? Thanks, BigEd __________________ Whitearrow->>>-------------------->

October 1, 2017, 08:14 AM	#2
Rottweiler Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2001 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 391	I wouldn't put anything under it that would allow someone an easier access to picking it up. Bolt it directly to the floor __________________ Texas - envied by lesser states since 1845

October 1, 2017, 09:51 AM	#3
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,446	The horse weighs as much as your safe and has a much smaller footprint......... __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

October 1, 2017, 10:19 AM	#4
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,833	Hockey pucks are used for the heavy machinery (lathes/mills) at school. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

October 2, 2017, 10:15 PM	#5
whitearrow Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2008 Location: the great state of MS Posts: 147	Ok fellas would it be better to sit the safe down on the stall mat or to cut the mat so just the sides are supporting the weight,in effect making skis to sit the safe on, creating some air flow this way even if the mat deformed some of at least 1/4"? Thanks, BigEd __________________ Whitearrow->>>-------------------->

October 2, 2017, 10:33 PM	#6
Nlight1 Member Join Date: June 19, 2013 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 89	Mine sits on 2"x4"

October 3, 2017, 07:40 PM	#7
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	Put it on two pieces like skis. It will make it even easier to break into.

October 4, 2017, 07:58 AM	#8
MagnumWill Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Location: Central Colorado Posts: 1,001	Yeah, is there a specific reason you're doing this? I'm thinking about elevating my safe about a half-inch or so, but it would be on additional concrete. You don't want ANY ability to get a San Angelo bar underneath it. __________________ Those who hammer their swords into plow shares will plow for those who didn't...

October 4, 2017, 08:32 AM	#9
whitearrow Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2008 Location: the great state of MS Posts: 147	Just trying to think of everything before 1,500lb hits the floor. Really trying to keep rust from forming on the bottom of the safe. Creating some airflow without too much of a gap sounds like a sound plan to me but wanted y'alls input too. Thanks, BigEd __________________ Whitearrow->>>-------------------->

October 4, 2017, 12:29 PM	#10
Dufus Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2014 Posts: 1,965	My safes are sitting on a piece of carpet cut to fit. They are indoors where the humidity is controlled. Haven't seen any rust. They are all anchored thru the carpet.

October 5, 2017, 08:07 AM	#11
MagnumWill Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Location: Central Colorado Posts: 1,001	Yes, that's why I want to elevate mine as well, let's say if a pipe breaks when you're on vacation. I have not only the sump pump, but a large boiler drain that I could rely on if the water gets about a half-inch deep. We're going to have ceramic floor down there so in the grand scheme of things we'd have a couple wet carpets and some drywall/paint to do. I think the carpet is a good idea as well, just as long as the anchors poke through it. Until it does get wet, however... then it may get moldy and it would be a real pain to remove... I just did some precursory research on hardiebacker's compressive strength (the cement-style drywall you use for inside showers and such) and it's saying it's at 7,000 PSI compressive strength. I think weight of safe + torque from anchors won't get near that, so that may be a good option. It's easy to work with, and if you're concerned about rust you could Dremel an airflow channel or something on the surfaces. __________________ Those who hammer their swords into plow shares will plow for those who didn't...