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August 11, 2018, 02:37 PM | #26 |
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Am I allowed to carry 38 special?
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August 11, 2018, 02:59 PM | #27 |
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Spent the last 4 weeks pocket carrying my Ruger LC9s Pro. Find with a spare mag in the same pocket as the gun and holster, the outline is rectangular.
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I picked up a KT P11 a couple of weeks ago because I think it has a lot going for it, like it weighs 14 oz empty, 12+1 capacity with a flush fit mag (15rd mags are available), 5.6" OAL, and rust proof plastic sights. I haven't shot it yet, but it carries very well in a trimmed kydex holster that was made for a G36.
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August 12, 2018, 06:58 AM | #31 | |
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Technically same diameter bullet as 9mm. [sigh] Barrel length can impact bullet performance, some bullets that expand consistently from a 4'' barrel may not from 2'' https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/rev...llistics-test/ Federal 130 HST Micro (13'' / .73) and Winchester Bonded 130 +P (13.8'' / .60) both performed well, from a 2'' barrel. However, if we "allow" 38 special, 380 has same diameter as 9mm too. [/thread] May as well beat them to it, for those times when a 380 is the literally the best one can do (work attire): https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/sel...llistic-tests/ I'd want it loaded with Hornady 90 gr. FTX CD (13.2'' / .52) or Sig V Crown 90 gr. (12.8'' / .51)
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August 12, 2018, 07:31 AM | #32 |
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+P, as in Purina.
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August 12, 2018, 12:17 PM | #33 |
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I like my 38 special LCR in the cargo pocket of my shorts in the summer.
In cooler weather I like my Glock Model 26 OWB under a loose outer shirt. I carry a tiny 380 when I can't carry a "real" gun. |
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If I were going to carry such, it would be my 2.5" Ruger Police Service, loaded hot. |
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August 13, 2018, 05:57 AM | #35 | |
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A loose fitting outer (cover shirt) concealed the primary pistol (Glock 35) IWB. I don't wear less than a shirt & shorts out in public.
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August 13, 2018, 01:40 PM | #36 | |
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August 13, 2018, 04:31 PM | #37 |
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Minimeters .... abysmal. Good luck though.
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August 14, 2018, 05:47 AM | #38 |
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August 14, 2018, 05:57 AM | #39 |
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This has replaced the LCP for casual carry.
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Science has beaten to death the myth that .40SW or even .45ACP has any significantly more real-world effectiveness than modern 9x19mm defensive ammo. 9x19mm is less expensive, lower recoil, allows for more capacity, and faster follow-up to boot. One may think they sound tough or smart by spouting off pithy quotes like "those carrying less than a caliber that starts with a "4" is kidding themselves." But the professional world (both those that train and that carry pistols into harms way) are converging on 9x19mm. I can barely think of a single well-known trainer promoting any other pistol caliber than 9x19mm. YMMV, but I can't think of many reasons one would push for one of the other defensive calibers (aside from the threat of large animals) unless they were just heavily financially invested in them. |
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If I had to defend myself, I'd prefer a Shield (9mm/40/45) in my hand than a LCP without a doubt.
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August 15, 2018, 09:51 AM | #42 |
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This is a good thread except for a silly comment. I wish I could carry and handle a 9mm or even larger like I used to. My now being disabled prohibits me from being able to operate a lot of handguns. That really stinks because now I am way more of a target in public. In my opinion and experience training always trumped caliber. Nine .380's out of my new S&W EZ into a head and torso is what I count on to make "all aggression cease"! Better than a .22. It's not the best, but do I have any volunteers to be my target? Please think about us gimps when you caliber bash.
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I have really become a fan of the Small, mild shooting Nano. Love the gun.
And I love the LCR9mm |
August 15, 2018, 11:32 AM | #44 |
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When I started to carry so many years ago I decided on a Glock 19. Lots of reason that I pick 9mm. One big reason was the cost of ammo. I had also studied a bunch of reports on "one shot stopping" power. The 9mm came in last, however only by a couple of percentile. The reports ranked the 40 first, 45acp second, 9mm third. All were in the mid 90% for one shot stopping. The reports may not be worth the paper they were printed on but it was something. If I can stop a bad guy with one shot 94 % of the time I am good to go. Also none of my 9's are single shot. I do carry 45 acp from time to time, but believe 40's are a communism plot meant to divide the country. My 2 cents
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The Shield EZ is a larger 380 pistol (I Googled it) and may produce little recoil, I've never shot one. That being said, a 380 may have more felt recoil more than a larger caliber, depending on the pistols. When I started carrying a 2nd pistol (I call it 2nd option) in my weak hand front pocket, I shot the following one hand weak hand: LCP 380 with Gold Dot - worst recoil of all, very brutal to my weak hand. Kahr PM40 - Less punishing one handed than the 380 - I'm not kidding. Kahr PM9 with CorBon 115 +P - much more tolerable than LCP 380 and easier to hit with. Glock 43 - easy to shoot quickly & accurately one handed, doesn't point as naturally (in my left hand) as the Kahr. I wouldn't volunteer to have a cup of urine thrown on me, or be spit on, and neither would incapacitate me very quickly; "I wouldn't want to get shot with it" is not near as good a measure of potential effectiveness than whether the bullets penetrate 12-18'' and consistently expand. 9 out of 9 rounds into the head / torso (100% accuracy) would be over twice a good hit ratio as police with "service" size pistol, very optimistic.
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Good video on this subject: https://youtu.be/nycYxb-zNwc Most calibers have no real world difference of any significant stats... Watch the video.... |
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^^^^^
Thanks, excellent data based video! According to what I gathered from the video, the best Bug out gun would be a .357 mag revolver!
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BUG out as in Bugout bag gun (BOB) for the apocalypse, not BUG as in backup gun.
(What they were discussing in the video)
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