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Old June 19, 2024, 06:19 PM   #76
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give it time. youll get tired of wearing your fingers out prying the brass out of moon clips! :<
took all the fun out of it.
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Old June 19, 2024, 06:29 PM   #77
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give it time. youll get tired of wearing your fingers out prying the brass out of moon clips! :<
took all the fun out of it.
Get the tools for loading and unloading.

Moon clips are great.
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Old June 20, 2024, 03:01 AM   #78
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no different.
been there, done that!
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Old June 20, 2024, 10:09 AM   #79
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I have wanted to buy a 610 multiple times.

But then I realize the 686 Plus is better in every way. The L frame has no concerns. No need for an N frame 357 unless you want the R8. So N frame 610 with 1 less chamber. The 357 experience is more of an experience than the 10mm-fun factor of loading and report.

If I liked 10mm auto, I might have an interest it in it...but still the 686 Plus at 7 round cylinder?

You are wanting a 10mm revolver to like them. Otherwise, yes. There really isn't a point.

The only benefit I can think where it shows up is 40 is the cheapest of 38/357/10mm. Heck, you can shoot 40 HST for cheaper than most 38/357/10mm. But...I think if you want a 357 or 10mm, you're probably not after the 38/40 shooting experience. You're probably a high level revolver aficionado to love the 10mm revolver.

I would wager that sales of the 10mm 610 and GP100 are low. I do bet people who have them like them a lot.
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Old June 20, 2024, 11:15 AM   #80
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Heck, you can shoot 40 HST for cheaper than most 38/357/10mm.
I can't.
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Old June 20, 2024, 03:26 PM   #81
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haha. Yes. Way wrong. But I meant within a few dollars you're shooting the best 40 round made vs range FMJ 38/357/10mm

https://ammoseek.com/ammo/40sw?ikw=hst
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Old June 20, 2024, 07:09 PM   #82
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I have wanted to buy a 610 multiple times.

But then I realize the 686 Plus is better in every way. The L frame has no concerns. No need for an N frame 357 unless you want the R8. So N frame 610 with 1 less chamber. The 357 experience is more of an experience than the 10mm-fun factor of loading and report.

If I liked 10mm auto, I might have an interest it in it...but still the 686 Plus at 7 round cylinder?

You are wanting a 10mm revolver to like them. Otherwise, yes. There really isn't a point.

The only benefit I can think where it shows up is 40 is the cheapest of 38/357/10mm. Heck, you can shoot 40 HST for cheaper than most 38/357/10mm. But...I think if you want a 357 or 10mm, you're probably not after the 38/40 shooting experience. You're probably a high level revolver aficionado to love the 10mm revolver.

I would wager that sales of the 10mm 610 and GP100 are low. I do bet people who have them like them a lot.
I suspect that you really need a six-inch barrel if you want to eke the best out of the .357 Magnum.

So I choose to stick with the old .45 ACP in a small (but fairly heavy Glock--the 30) for real serious work.

I'm satisfied with the Glock 19 in 9mm for most carry, though.

I have zero anxiety about my choices.

In fact........I'm sure I've found the best solution.

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Old June 21, 2024, 09:01 AM   #83
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Oh. I am 100% on 9mm HST being all anyone needs. The days of needing high FPS for a JHP to perform are long gone when HST came out over 20 years ago.

The 150gr HST under 900fps in a S&W M&P compact 3.5" barrel bests most 357 and 10mm performances on lucky gunner. I stock pile that and have a few cases of the discontinued 147gr +P HST.

Performance means nothing to me for a revolver. I shoot my 686s for fun. 10mm in a revolver is just extra work, to me. For me only, big revolvers like the L/N frames are all experience and nothing else. That extra work of one less chamber and moon clips when 357 does it all better has always hit right when I'm about to buy a 4" 610.
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Old June 21, 2024, 04:18 PM   #84
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50% of my shooting is 38sp HBWCs in M14 and M52 S&Ws. Other 50% is is 44sp & 45acp and 45Colt. I don’t count 9mm and 22s because although I shot them a good bit I don’t load for 9mm and certainly not 22 rf.
If I wanted a 10mm revolver would have kept a model 57. I wasn’t shooting them at all so offed all my 57s and am in process of offing a 29s, 28s and 27s. Don’t need mags any more.
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Old June 22, 2024, 09:40 AM   #85
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ty8HHR8DOk

Watched this recently. Makes me ask the same question as the OP.
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Old June 23, 2024, 08:02 AM   #86
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I can't.
You're not everybody, which means the majority of people likely can.
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Old June 23, 2024, 12:05 PM   #87
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No, it just means I'm not everybody.

My point of view is personal, what matters to me is what I can, and can't do. I didn't say the majority of people can't shoot 40 HST for cheaper than most 38/357/10mm, I said I can't.
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