Sights on a Winchester "Trails End" 94

E.J.W. · March 15, 2009, 10:34 PM

I have a new Winchester Trails End edition 94 with the octagon barrel in 44 Mag. I bought this rifle about a year ago and have only put a box of shells through it, but had yet to put any shots on paper until today.
I was out today enjoying the warm weather doing some shooting with the 94 and noticed while shooting from rest bags I cannot adjust the rear sight any further in order to get the rifle to hit in the X ring. It is as low as it can go besides removing the adjuster ramp completely. When shooting, I'm holding the X ring completely above the sights and my hits are about 2" high at 25 yards. I tried putting the bead on the front sight as deep into the rear sight notch so that it was almost covered by the lowest part of the notch and my hits fell to the top edge of the X ring. I get confused on open sight movement results, I think I've got this right. Move the rear sight down and point of impact should go down. Correct?
Does this mean I might need a taller front sight?
Thanks
E.

Scorch · March 16, 2009, 11:41 PM

Yes. Move the rear sight in the direction you want POI to move. Since you are hitting high with your rear sight bottomed out, you need a taller front sight.

FYI- That rifle left the factory with sights for full-power 44 Mag loads, lower power loads wil hit higher.

E.J.W. · March 18, 2009, 06:50 PM

Thanks for the reply Scorch.
I looked at front sights on Brownell's website. There are taller ones available. You bring up a good point about full power loads. I have not put any together yet for this rifle. This rifle was an impulse buy as I could not leave it behind when the seller offered to let go for $500. So I figured I'd use it for rabbit and chuck control at close ranges (more challanging than my scoped 10/22) in my back yard hence why I started out with low velocity loads.
Thanks..
E.

March 15, 2009, 10:34 PM	#1
E.J.W. Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2008 Location: New York Posts: 171	Sights on a Winchester "Trails End" 94 I have a new Winchester Trails End edition 94 with the octagon barrel in 44 Mag. I bought this rifle about a year ago and have only put a box of shells through it, but had yet to put any shots on paper until today. I was out today enjoying the warm weather doing some shooting with the 94 and noticed while shooting from rest bags I cannot adjust the rear sight any further in order to get the rifle to hit in the X ring. It is as low as it can go besides removing the adjuster ramp completely. When shooting, I'm holding the X ring completely above the sights and my hits are about 2" high at 25 yards. I tried putting the bead on the front sight as deep into the rear sight notch so that it was almost covered by the lowest part of the notch and my hits fell to the top edge of the X ring. I get confused on open sight movement results, I think I've got this right. Move the rear sight down and point of impact should go down. Correct? Does this mean I might need a taller front sight? Thanks E. __________________ You can let things happen to you -or- you can make things happen for you

March 16, 2009, 11:41 PM	#2
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Yes. Move the rear sight in the direction you want POI to move. Since you are hitting high with your rear sight bottomed out, you need a taller front sight. FYI- That rifle left the factory with sights for full-power 44 Mag loads, lower power loads wil hit higher. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

March 18, 2009, 06:50 PM	#3
E.J.W. Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2008 Location: New York Posts: 171	Thanks for the reply Scorch. I looked at front sights on Brownell's website. There are taller ones available. You bring up a good point about full power loads. I have not put any together yet for this rifle. This rifle was an impulse buy as I could not leave it behind when the seller offered to let go for $500. So I figured I'd use it for rabbit and chuck control at close ranges (more challanging than my scoped 10/22) in my back yard hence why I started out with low velocity loads. Thanks.. E. __________________ You can let things happen to you -or- you can make things happen for you