New AR Double Tap Trigger

peggysue · February 27, 2017, 06:04 PM

I ordered this trigger for one of my ARs. Anyone else have one?
Double Tap Trigger . New pull release trigger in fire mode and safety. Only $200. I know some will question the safety. But only I will be using the AR.
Already have a Franklin Gen 2 Binary and bump fire stock. The Eco trigger is month out there.

http://doubletaptriggers.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tcd8mVMyYk&t=21s

peggysue · February 28, 2017, 07:39 AM

OK I decided to get a complete lower with stock and all as they are well under $200 and dedicate it to this double tap trigger. I can do that.
However not till next month... so my count will be up to 3 guns this year. I really have to stop. LOL

ttarp · February 28, 2017, 10:28 AM

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so my count will be up to 3 guns this year. I really have to stop. LOL

Pshaw, don't go telling yourself lies like that...

I've never messed with any of the binary triggers, but if I had one I think I'd prefer to have the 3 position selector as I don't see myself using the doubletap feature exclusively. I do like the price however.

peggysue · March 1, 2017, 07:41 AM

Well I will ordered a lower assembly this morning. I decided on the DPMS aluminum as opposed to the Omni poly. Too much bad about the plastic one on the internet which is only $15 less. I do like the stock better but I will go with the all aluminum lower.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...oducts_id/4120

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...s_id/716008488

peggysue · March 13, 2017, 07:15 PM

Got my Double Tap Trigger that allows the shooter to fire a round when the trigger is pulled and released. I am installing it in a dedicated DPMS lower receiver group.

Siggy-06 · March 13, 2017, 09:10 PM

What caliber are you planning on using? Multiple?

peggysue · March 13, 2017, 10:13 PM

Probably just a 223.

jonnyc · March 13, 2017, 10:30 PM

That strikes me as one of the most dangerous inventions ever derived by man. Wide open to careless handling and ADs. If you want to shoot double-taps, learn to shoot double-taps.
Just another dangerous toy for tactical "wannabees".
But hey, YMMV.............just hopefully not on a range near me.
Enjoy.

ttarp · March 13, 2017, 11:24 PM

How is it so dangerous I wonder? I get it that there are unsafe folks with firearms out there, but how many folks with a rifle have you seen pull a trigger, hold it back, and then sweep folks before letting it go?

Its legal, been used on shotguns for a while now, and yet the firearms community sounds like anti gun crowd talking about it.

snowman748 · March 14, 2017, 12:18 AM

Ok, I can tell you from experience with the BFS Gen III from Franklin Armory the Binary mode is a blast. Now I don't have any experience with the Double Tap trigger but I do feel like it's a good alternative to the bump Fire stocks...that said I think it is a VERY poor choice to put on an AR that has any purpose other then mag dumps just like the bump Fire stocks. I can also see how people would feel this is unsafe since it looks and feels just like a standard AR trigger and even uses the standard "Fire" position for the safety selector. The gun looks and feels like a standard AR but when you pull the trigger it isn't. That's something the Echo and BFS have over this system is when someone doesn't know the rifle has a Binary Trigger they could still pick it up and use it as a standard AR until they flip it tothat third position.

I'm not going to knock it till I try it but I feel this has much more limited uses then the BFS or Echo but again it's also only half the price.

Personally I would've preferred to see the safety selector go from safe to third position and completely skip "Fire" mode. I feel that might limit some inherent dangers. Granted you couldn't use a standard safety selector but do you really need a different selector then the one offered? Especially since it's an Ambi safety selector.

peggysue · March 14, 2017, 07:48 AM

I've a DP-12 shotgun too. I just like the trick ponies. Did I say this Double Tap trigger is dedicated to a lower assembly? After I die won't someone be surprised if they don't read the tag?

Siggy-06 · March 14, 2017, 08:18 AM

Yeah if you're the only one using the AR, I dont see a problem at all. I would love to see how fast you could empty a magazine with that trigger set-up.

peggysue · March 15, 2017, 01:45 PM

Installed and the function check was 100%. Yet to shoot it. I can feel the Xtra power buffer spring when I cock it. I am satisfied.

Now to paint or decal the lower to mark it as a DT.

peggysue · March 16, 2017, 01:13 PM

My Double Tap dedicated lower is done. I took my ghost lower assembly off and moved the upper over. Maybe I will get another upper in time?

Siggy-06 · March 17, 2017, 06:27 AM

Nice throws in the background by the way

peggysue · March 18, 2017, 09:22 AM

Thanks. i used to have the largest YoYo collection in the State. A metal specialist. Still have most of them. Sold a few of the metals off. I have a watch and bicycle collection too.

smee78 · March 18, 2017, 10:50 AM

These are interesting, I know they have been around a while on shotguns but I have not shot one yet. I would like to give one of these a spin before I commit to getting one. Maybe one of my shooting buddies can be talked into being a beta tester for me....

Venom1956 · May 10, 2017, 02:16 PM

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TheDevilThatYouKnow · May 10, 2017, 02:25 PM

The National Firearms Act defines "machinegun" as "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger." 26 U.S.C. 5845(b).

Read it closely, one function (action) of the trigger is the pull, the second function (action) is the release of the trigger.

Does anyone really think the ATF is entirely unaware of a technology that was discussed here on TFL as far back as 2013?

Venom1956 · May 11, 2017, 03:00 AM

NM I don't care enough to argue

g.willikers · May 11, 2017, 07:19 AM

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If you want to shoot double-taps, learn to shoot double-taps.

Yes, exactly.
Having to depend on equipment to do one's job, in place of skill development, just doesn't seem like a good idea.
With skill, the user can double tap anything.
Not just having to rely on this kind of substitute trigger to be able to do it.
Skills are forever.

stagpanther · May 11, 2017, 08:09 AM

I personally don't care--if you feel you want the added novelty of "street legal almost select fire" have at it. I've messed with AR triggers long enough to recognize most of these concoctions as "controlled malfunctions."

Model12Win · May 11, 2017, 10:05 AM

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That strikes me as one of the most dangerous inventions ever derived by man. Wide open to careless handling and ADs. If you want to shoot double-taps, learn to shoot double-taps.
Just another dangerous toy for tactical "wannabees".
But hey, YMMV.............just hopefully not on a range near me.
Enjoy.

One of the most clownish things I've heard here in a while.

"Tactical wannabees?" Are you nuts? People like MAC at the Military Arms Channel rave about the bino trigs and they ARE very useful for operators for legal suppressive fire and are far easier and more effective at double taps to help in Mozambique drills etc.

Targa · May 11, 2017, 10:21 AM

Sounds like fun to me, I would like to shoot one. Will I ever buy a binary trigger? Nope, my wife burns through enough of the .223 stash as it is..

. Now on the other hand if that trigger clears people away from me on the range, I just might have to sign up....

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I do agree with it being dangerous though and I would really want to know the person who is shooting it around me. I have seen to many people at the range that shouldnt own a Red Ryder BB gun.

Ibmikey · May 13, 2017, 10:56 PM

I have absolutely no use for the glitchy/ sometimes goofy ways people come up with to make an AR shoot fast and often inaccurately, and sometimes just proding ATF to find a way to ban it after thousands of guys are stuck with them.
Even though the gimmicks are not for me I do not pass judgement on those persons who have purchased / installed legal devices for their personal enjoyment. After all some one with dozens of AR's should not be critical of other's toys.

February 27, 2017, 06:04 PM	#1
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	New AR Double Tap Trigger I ordered this trigger for one of my ARs. Anyone else have one? Double Tap Trigger . New pull release trigger in fire mode and safety. Only $200. I know some will question the safety. But only I will be using the AR. Already have a Franklin Gen 2 Binary and bump fire stock. The Eco trigger is month out there. http://doubletaptriggers.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tcd8mVMyYk&t=21s

March 1, 2017, 07:41 AM	#4
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Well I will ordered a lower assembly this morning. I decided on the DPMS aluminum as opposed to the Omni poly. Too much bad about the plastic one on the internet which is only $15 less. I do like the stock better but I will go with the all aluminum lower. https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...oducts_id/4120 https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...s_id/716008488 Last edited by peggysue; March 5, 2017 at 07:30 AM.

March 13, 2017, 10:30 PM	#8
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,731	That strikes me as one of the most dangerous inventions ever derived by man. Wide open to careless handling and ADs. If you want to shoot double-taps, learn to shoot double-taps. Just another dangerous toy for tactical "wannabees". But hey, YMMV.............just hopefully not on a range near me. Enjoy. __________________ 2024 PA Cartridge Collector Show; Aug. 16-17, 2024!!! Buy...Sell...Trade All Types of Ammunition & Ordnance PM or email me for 2024 show details.

March 18, 2017, 10:50 AM	#17
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	These are interesting, I know they have been around a while on shotguns but I have not shot one yet. I would like to give one of these a spin before I commit to getting one. Maybe one of my shooting buddies can be talked into being a beta tester for me.... __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

May 10, 2017, 02:16 PM	#18
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	00 __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug Last edited by Venom1956; May 11, 2017 at 03:17 AM.

February 28, 2017, 07:39 AM	#2
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	OK I decided to get a complete lower with stock and all as they are well under $200 and dedicate it to this double tap trigger. I can do that. However not till next month... so my count will be up to 3 guns this year. I really have to stop. LOL

March 13, 2017, 07:15 PM	#5
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Got my Double Tap Trigger that allows the shooter to fire a round when the trigger is pulled and released. I am installing it in a dedicated DPMS lower receiver group.

March 13, 2017, 09:10 PM	#6
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	What caliber are you planning on using? Multiple?

March 13, 2017, 10:13 PM	#7
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Probably just a 223.

March 13, 2017, 11:24 PM	#9
ttarp Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2013 Posts: 888	How is it so dangerous I wonder? I get it that there are unsafe folks with firearms out there, but how many folks with a rifle have you seen pull a trigger, hold it back, and then sweep folks before letting it go? Its legal, been used on shotguns for a while now, and yet the firearms community sounds like anti gun crowd talking about it.

March 14, 2017, 12:18 AM	#10
snowman748 Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2015 Location: Abilene, Tx Posts: 124	Ok, I can tell you from experience with the BFS Gen III from Franklin Armory the Binary mode is a blast. Now I don't have any experience with the Double Tap trigger but I do feel like it's a good alternative to the bump Fire stocks...that said I think it is a VERY poor choice to put on an AR that has any purpose other then mag dumps just like the bump Fire stocks. I can also see how people would feel this is unsafe since it looks and feels just like a standard AR trigger and even uses the standard "Fire" position for the safety selector. The gun looks and feels like a standard AR but when you pull the trigger it isn't. That's something the Echo and BFS have over this system is when someone doesn't know the rifle has a Binary Trigger they could still pick it up and use it as a standard AR until they flip it tothat third position. I'm not going to knock it till I try it but I feel this has much more limited uses then the BFS or Echo but again it's also only half the price. Personally I would've preferred to see the safety selector go from safe to third position and completely skip "Fire" mode. I feel that might limit some inherent dangers. Granted you couldn't use a standard safety selector but do you really need a different selector then the one offered? Especially since it's an Ambi safety selector.

March 14, 2017, 07:48 AM	#11
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	I've a DP-12 shotgun too. I just like the trick ponies. Did I say this Double Tap trigger is dedicated to a lower assembly? After I die won't someone be surprised if they don't read the tag?

March 14, 2017, 08:18 AM	#12
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	Yeah if you're the only one using the AR, I dont see a problem at all. I would love to see how fast you could empty a magazine with that trigger set-up.

March 15, 2017, 01:45 PM	#13
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Installed and the function check was 100%. Yet to shoot it. I can feel the Xtra power buffer spring when I cock it. I am satisfied. Now to paint or decal the lower to mark it as a DT.

March 17, 2017, 06:27 AM	#15
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	Nice throws in the background by the way

March 18, 2017, 09:22 AM	#16
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Thanks. i used to have the largest YoYo collection in the State. A metal specialist. Still have most of them. Sold a few of the metals off. I have a watch and bicycle collection too.

May 10, 2017, 02:25 PM	#19
TheDevilThatYouKnow Member Join Date: November 22, 2015 Posts: 89	The National Firearms Act defines "machinegun" as "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger." 26 U.S.C. 5845(b). Read it closely, one function (action) of the trigger is the pull, the second function (action) is the release of the trigger. Does anyone really think the ATF is entirely unaware of a technology that was discussed here on TFL as far back as 2013? Last edited by TheDevilThatYouKnow; May 10, 2017 at 02:34 PM.

May 11, 2017, 03:00 AM	#20
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	NM I don't care enough to argue __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug Last edited by Venom1956; May 11, 2017 at 03:16 AM.

May 11, 2017, 08:09 AM	#22
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,784	I personally don't care--if you feel you want the added novelty of "street legal almost select fire" have at it. I've messed with AR triggers long enough to recognize most of these concoctions as "controlled malfunctions." __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

May 11, 2017, 10:21 AM	#24
Targa Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2014 Posts: 2,084	Sounds like fun to me, I would like to shoot one. Will I ever buy a binary trigger? Nope, my wife burns through enough of the .223 stash as it is... Now on the other hand if that trigger clears people away from me on the range, I just might have to sign up..... I do agree with it being dangerous though and I would really want to know the person who is shooting it around me. I have seen to many people at the range that shouldnt own a Red Ryder BB gun.

May 13, 2017, 10:56 PM	#25
Ibmikey Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2013 Location: Now relocated to Texas Posts: 2,943	I have absolutely no use for the glitchy/ sometimes goofy ways people come up with to make an AR shoot fast and often inaccurately, and sometimes just proding ATF to find a way to ban it after thousands of guys are stuck with them. Even though the gimmicks are not for me I do not pass judgement on those persons who have purchased / installed legal devices for their personal enjoyment. After all some one with dozens of AR's should not be critical of other's toys.