30.30 winchester reloading question

jdthor · April 10, 2013, 03:15 PM

Ok, I have been loading 170gn semi-jacketed flat nose with varget powder, works great no problems. Now as every one knows 30 cal flat nose is no where to be found, but as my 30.30 is a bolt action flat nose is not needed and i have a box of 200gn boat tail spitzers. I can find charges up to 170gn but nothing higher. The question is what type of powder charge would I be looking at, using varget powder, to get started? That is without blowing my gun up or blowing out the primers. Has any one done this before or should i just leave it alone and go on my merry way.

William T. Watts · April 10, 2013, 03:47 PM

My suggesting is purchase a few boxes of factory ammunition to tide you over until components become available again. The other option is go on www.gunbroker.com and see what you can find, these aren't the ideal options but doable. None of my loading books have anything heavier than the 170gr RN/FN listed, FWIW the 200gr SP your wanting to use probably won't open up either. Another thought your rifle may not stabilize the heavier longer bullet at the lower velocity!! William

LE-28 · April 10, 2013, 04:12 PM

http://www.ramanon.com/forum/showthr...30-at-2000-fps

Yes, people do it but unless your really good at working up loads I wouldn't advise it.

Just so you know the person in the link I provided is over max load with his 200gr recipe. From extrapolation on my part he is over max by about 2gr or more.

190gr jacketed is the closest I can get to what you want.

Lyman's 45edition
30-30 cal 190gr jacketed flat point
IMR 4320 26gr starting @ 1720fps/ 29,400cup max 29gr @ 1903fps/36,400cup

Sounds like you really need a 35 Remington.

jdthor · April 10, 2013, 04:14 PM

I'm actually good on ammo, it was just one of those things where a friend had given me the bullets and I had extra brass and was just wondering if it was do able. Thanks for the info.

LE-28 · April 10, 2013, 04:58 PM

jdthor,

I would pass it by, as you put it.

I really don't like seating heavy for caliber bullets that deep in a case. That's never a good thing.

It raises pressures, reduces velocity, and other wise beats the crap out of a perfectly good rifle.

A pause for the COZ · April 10, 2013, 05:17 PM

I would suggest taking up casting.
Once you have enough lead on hand. You dont need to worry about bullet availability.

jdthor · April 12, 2013, 09:19 AM

Thanks for the input i have decided to pass it up. I have a friend who loads 308 and he will be happy to have a box of 200gn match to load with. As far as casting goes I have most every thing I need save some of the add in metals and the dies themselves and have been thinking of doing this anyway, now may be a good time to start. I used to make castnets and still have allot of lead left from making the sinkers but they are cast from soft lead so mixing to make the lead harder will be new for me.

oldscot3 · April 12, 2013, 10:15 PM

jdthor- I could hook you up with a box or two of Nosler 170gr. RNs. PM me if you are interested.

April 10, 2013, 03:15 PM	#1
jdthor Junior Member Join Date: March 4, 2013 Posts: 3	30.30 winchester reloading question Ok, I have been loading 170gn semi-jacketed flat nose with varget powder, works great no problems. Now as every one knows 30 cal flat nose is no where to be found, but as my 30.30 is a bolt action flat nose is not needed and i have a box of 200gn boat tail spitzers. I can find charges up to 170gn but nothing higher. The question is what type of powder charge would I be looking at, using varget powder, to get started? That is without blowing my gun up or blowing out the primers. Has any one done this before or should i just leave it alone and go on my merry way.

April 10, 2013, 03:47 PM	#2
William T. Watts Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2010 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 1,074	My suggesting is purchase a few boxes of factory ammunition to tide you over until components become available again. The other option is go on www.gunbroker.com and see what you can find, these aren't the ideal options but doable. None of my loading books have anything heavier than the 170gr RN/FN listed, FWIW the 200gr SP your wanting to use probably won't open up either. Another thought your rifle may not stabilize the heavier longer bullet at the lower velocity!! William Last edited by William T. Watts; April 10, 2013 at 08:51 PM.

April 10, 2013, 04:12 PM	#3
LE-28 Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 759	http://www.ramanon.com/forum/showthr...30-at-2000-fps Yes, people do it but unless your really good at working up loads I wouldn't advise it. Just so you know the person in the link I provided is over max load with his 200gr recipe. From extrapolation on my part he is over max by about 2gr or more. 190gr jacketed is the closest I can get to what you want. Lyman's 45edition 30-30 cal 190gr jacketed flat point IMR 4320 26gr starting @ 1720fps/ 29,400cup max 29gr @ 1903fps/36,400cup Sounds like you really need a 35 Remington.

April 10, 2013, 04:14 PM	#4
jdthor Junior Member Join Date: March 4, 2013 Posts: 3	I'm actually good on ammo, it was just one of those things where a friend had given me the bullets and I had extra brass and was just wondering if it was do able. Thanks for the info.

April 10, 2013, 04:58 PM	#5
LE-28 Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 759	jdthor, I would pass it by, as you put it. I really don't like seating heavy for caliber bullets that deep in a case. That's never a good thing. It raises pressures, reduces velocity, and other wise beats the crap out of a perfectly good rifle.

April 10, 2013, 05:17 PM	#6
A pause for the COZ Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2012 Location: Braham, Minnesota Posts: 1,314	I would suggest taking up casting. Once you have enough lead on hand. You dont need to worry about bullet availability.

April 12, 2013, 09:19 AM	#7
jdthor Junior Member Join Date: March 4, 2013 Posts: 3	Thanks for the input i have decided to pass it up. I have a friend who loads 308 and he will be happy to have a box of 200gn match to load with. As far as casting goes I have most every thing I need save some of the add in metals and the dies themselves and have been thinking of doing this anyway, now may be a good time to start. I used to make castnets and still have allot of lead left from making the sinkers but they are cast from soft lead so mixing to make the lead harder will be new for me.

April 12, 2013, 10:15 PM	#8
oldscot3 Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2007 Location: texas Posts: 997	jdthor- I could hook you up with a box or two of Nosler 170gr. RNs. PM me if you are interested.