What's Your Favorite Firearm Myth? - Page 2

Bart B. · April 27, 2020, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by reynolds357

Not enough to keep from tumbling in my .223.

Tell me the bullet make and muzzle velocity used then I'll figure this all out. Thanks.

zukiphile · April 27, 2020, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by reynolds357

Ever shot a 72 gr from a 12 twist?

I shot some steel core 62gr from my 1:12. It was hilarious.

At 50 yards, not one entered the paper nose first.

reynolds357 · April 27, 2020, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bart B.

Tell me the bullet make and muzzle velocity used then I'll figure this all out. Thanks.

I typoed 72. Its a 77 gr tipped match king At 2770 fps. That bullet is a tack driver in my Ar with 24" 1in 8 White Oak.

Bart B. · April 27, 2020, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by reynolds357

I typoed 72. Its a 77 gr tipped match king At 2770 fps. That bullet is a tack driver in my Ar with 24" 1in 8 White Oak.

You chose the velocity and twist that spun them too slow. The results were factual. Not mythical.

littlebikerider · April 27, 2020, 07:10 PM

You can save money handloading.....

until you find out how many cool toys and books are out there!!

Plus, then you think, "heck, I can buy another gun! I will get the dies, and think how much money I will save!" repeat.

reynolds357 · April 27, 2020, 07:32 PM

Exactly. a .223 tumbling through the air can be factual.

kenny53 · April 27, 2020, 07:40 PM

My favorite firearm myth: I am a good shot.

Bart B. · April 27, 2020, 11:37 PM

When using an aperture rear sight, your aiming eye centers the front sight in the center of the aperture field of view.

Hal · April 28, 2020, 05:50 AM

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I have a 1950's Marlin 39 that the previous owner apparently shot a LOT of 22 shorts in. A 22 Long Rifle will no longer chamber. It can be cleaned, but will take some work on my part.

Pick up some Stingers - or any other HyperVelocity .22lr that uses a 33 grain bullet & a slightly longer case than a .22lr.

Fire a few out of another gun & save the spent cases.

Push the spent cases into the chamber & they will scrape out a lot of the crud.
It's the same thing as shoving a spent .357 mag case into a dirty chamber left by shooting .38 spls.

reynolds357 · April 28, 2020, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by littlebikerider

You can save money handloading.....

until you find out how many cool toys and books are out there!!

Plus, then you think, "heck, I can buy another gun! I will get the dies, and think how much money I will save!" repeat.

I have always said you "reload" to save money. You "handload" to make premium ammunition not available over the counter.

gbclarkson · April 28, 2020, 09:51 AM

I can't think of a favorite myth not politically fueled right now (this thread is supposed to induce a light chuckle, right) so I'll steer this in a slightly different direction:

Some manufacturers' marketing schemes are a little odd. Example 1: "Aggressive grip texture". When I read this I picture the grip angrily balling its fists and insulting me. I don't want that. I also chuckle at the "Special Forces" trim level stamped on guns. Can someone out there in the websphere find a special forces unit that uses Caniks?

**44 AMP** · April 28, 2020, 04:46 PM

I think they say "aggressive grip texture" because if they said "cheesegrater" it wouldn't sell as well.

I think. now, that one should draw a line between advertising slogans and claims (true or untrue) and "firearms myths" like "shotgun, no need to aim" or ".45 hit in the pinky knocks a man down" type BS.

One of the things I see often these days, which irritates me, isn't a myth, but an implied thing though some fools do actually state it directly.

Lots of people (or the ones that type, anyway) favor very heavy for caliber bullets. 300gr+ for .44s and .45 pistols or 180s for .357s. This is fine, except some imply that the standard bullet weights 158, 240/250gr aren't good enough, and some seem to think they are useless.

No question the uber heavy bullets do work. I just hate the implication that less than that doesn't.

Sharkbite · April 28, 2020, 06:56 PM

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. No question the uber heavy bullets do work. I just hate the implication that less than that doesn't.

Wait... my 300gn 9mm loads at 200fps will drop a T-rex. No standard 9mm load comes close.

**44 AMP** · April 28, 2020, 09:23 PM

Show me that T-rex carcass (in person, not a picture) and THEN, we'll talk..

dogtown tom · April 28, 2020, 10:42 PM

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reynolds357 Mattel did have a component contract for some of the stock parts.

Myth

Ernie Bishop · April 29, 2020, 05:50 AM

Some myths I put up with, because I use the single-shot specialty pistols.
You cannot safely use a rifle scope on a specialty pistol.
Short barrels are not as accurate as long barrels.
You cannot shoot small groups at Long-Range (Implied that both have scopes on them) because you don't have a cheek weld with a specialty pistol (Remington XP-100).
Short barrels 14-16 inches long don't shoot accurate because they don't have a good enough powder burn.
Short barrels cannot be chambered in magnum cartridges and be accurate.
You have to use powder that has much faster burn rates when having a specialty pistol chambered in rifle cartridge, than you do with a rifle.

TX Nimrod · April 29, 2020, 11:08 AM

“You cannot shoot cast bullets out of a .32 ACP Beretta 81!” Told to me almost 50 years ago by an old Wimbledon shooter....

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Pahoo · April 29, 2020, 12:18 PM

The Frontier Colt and Winchester, won the west. …….

Be Safe !!!

Onward Allusion · April 29, 2020, 12:34 PM

The perfect house gun for grandma with arthritis and strength problems is a 12 gauge shotgun.

**44 AMP** · April 29, 2020, 02:07 PM

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You have to use powder that has much faster burn rates when having a specialty pistol chambered in rifle cartridge, than you do with a rifle.

I've heard these, and while most are BS, this one is closer to reality than the others. You don't HAVE to use faster powder, but you might WANT to...

Took me decades to figure out the (now obvious) reason Remington made the .221 Fireball for the XP-100 pistol. Beyond having us buy another Rem product, why not just make it in .222 or even .223??

It's about efficiency. The .221 case holds all the powder you can burn in the guns' 10" barrel. The larger .222 and .223 cases hold more powder than you can use, and don't get significantly better velocity, so that extra powder (and the space it takes up) is simply going to waste.

If you're shooting a rifle caliber handgun (say .308 Win) or something like that, you might want to use a faster powder than what the factory puts in them, for improved efficiency in your gun.

2wheelwander · April 29, 2020, 03:07 PM

My M-16 in basic absolutely was stamped "Mattel" on the side of the lpwer receiver with the Mattel logo. Asked my drill Sgt about it and he explained the whole government contract thing and finished with 'It's still no damn toy'.

The Mattel M-16 is a fact. Basic March-April of 1988 Ft. Jackson, SC.

jpx2rk · April 29, 2020, 03:29 PM

The sound of a shotgun being racked in the dark, unexpectedly, was all it took to stop me doing anything further other than what the man holding the shotgun told me to do. And I did exactly what he said to do.

JERRYS. · April 29, 2020, 03:29 PM

that your bullet has to penetrate 12-18" of ballistic gel to be effective on a bad guy.

**Tom Servo** · April 29, 2020, 03:44 PM

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The perfect house gun for grandma with arthritis and strength problems is a 12 gauge shotgun.

With a pistol grip.

reynolds357 · April 29, 2020, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dogtown tom

Myth

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/m-16-made-mattel/

We had some old A1s loaned to us from DOD yhrough some kind of grant program. They had Mattel plainly stamped on them.

April 27, 2020, 07:32 PM	#31
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	Exactly. a .223 tumbling through the air can be factual. Last edited by reynolds357; April 28, 2020 at 09:49 AM.

April 28, 2020, 04:46 PM	#37
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,846	I think they say "aggressive grip texture" because if they said "cheesegrater" it wouldn't sell as well. I think. now, that one should draw a line between advertising slogans and claims (true or untrue) and "firearms myths" like "shotgun, no need to aim" or ".45 hit in the pinky knocks a man down" type BS. One of the things I see often these days, which irritates me, isn't a myth, but an implied thing though some fools do actually state it directly. Lots of people (or the ones that type, anyway) favor very heavy for caliber bullets. 300gr+ for .44s and .45 pistols or 180s for .357s. This is fine, except some imply that the standard bullet weights 158, 240/250gr aren't good enough, and some seem to think they are useless. No question the uber heavy bullets do work. I just hate the implication that less than that doesn't. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

April 28, 2020, 09:23 PM	#39
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,846	Show me that T-rex carcass (in person, not a picture) and THEN, we'll talk.. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

April 29, 2020, 11:08 AM	#42
TX Nimrod Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2009 Location: Zona Posts: 423	“You cannot shoot cast bullets out of a .32 ACP Beretta 81!” Told to me almost 50 years ago by an old Wimbledon shooter.... . __________________ .22LR - .223 - .22-250 - .243 - 6mm REM - .25-20 - .25-35 - .25 BB - .250/3000 - .257 WBY - .260 - .30 M1 - .300 BO - .30 Herrett - .300 Savage - .32 H&R - .303 - .338-06 - .338 WM - .35 REM - .38-55 - .45 LC - .45-70 - .50-70

April 29, 2020, 12:18 PM	#43
Pahoo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 8,783	Won the west !!! The Frontier Colt and Winchester, won the west. ……. Be Safe !!! __________________ 'Fundamental truths' are easy to recognize because they are verified daily through simple observation and thus, require no testing.

April 27, 2020, 07:10 PM	#30
littlebikerider Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2018 Posts: 131	You can save money handloading..... until you find out how many cool toys and books are out there!! Plus, then you think, "heck, I can buy another gun! I will get the dies, and think how much money I will save!" repeat.

April 27, 2020, 07:40 PM	#32
kenny53 Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2015 Location: My back yard Posts: 971	My favorite firearm myth: I am a good shot.

April 27, 2020, 11:37 PM	#33
Bart B. Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 8,927	When using an aperture rear sight, your aiming eye centers the front sight in the center of the aperture field of view.

April 28, 2020, 09:51 AM	#36
gbclarkson Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2014 Location: None of yer business, sonny Posts: 440	I can't think of a favorite myth not politically fueled right now (this thread is supposed to induce a light chuckle, right) so I'll steer this in a slightly different direction: Some manufacturers' marketing schemes are a little odd. Example 1: "Aggressive grip texture". When I read this I picture the grip angrily balling its fists and insulting me. I don't want that. I also chuckle at the "Special Forces" trim level stamped on guns. Can someone out there in the websphere find a special forces unit that uses Caniks?

April 29, 2020, 05:50 AM	#41
Ernie Bishop Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2019 Posts: 122	Some myths I put up with, because I use the single-shot specialty pistols. You cannot safely use a rifle scope on a specialty pistol. Short barrels are not as accurate as long barrels. You cannot shoot small groups at Long-Range (Implied that both have scopes on them) because you don't have a cheek weld with a specialty pistol (Remington XP-100). Short barrels 14-16 inches long don't shoot accurate because they don't have a good enough powder burn. Short barrels cannot be chambered in magnum cartridges and be accurate. You have to use powder that has much faster burn rates when having a specialty pistol chambered in rifle cartridge, than you do with a rifle.

April 29, 2020, 12:34 PM	#44
Onward Allusion Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2009 Location: Back in a Non-Free State Posts: 3,133	The perfect house gun for grandma with arthritis and strength problems is a 12 gauge shotgun. __________________ Simple as ABC . . . Always Be Carrying

April 29, 2020, 03:07 PM	#46
2wheelwander Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2018 Posts: 539	My M-16 in basic absolutely was stamped "Mattel" on the side of the lpwer receiver with the Mattel logo. Asked my drill Sgt about it and he explained the whole government contract thing and finished with 'It's still no damn toy'. The Mattel M-16 is a fact. Basic March-April of 1988 Ft. Jackson, SC.

April 29, 2020, 03:29 PM	#47
jpx2rk Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2015 Posts: 387	The sound of a shotgun being racked in the dark, unexpectedly, was all it took to stop me doing anything further other than what the man holding the shotgun told me to do. And I did exactly what he said to do.

April 29, 2020, 03:29 PM	#48
JERRYS. Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,969	that your bullet has to penetrate 12-18" of ballistic gel to be effective on a bad guy.