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June 22, 2011, 12:52 AM | #1 |
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World record bird killer!!
with a SxS yet...
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June 22, 2011, 07:06 AM | #2 |
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5270rnds+ in a day? out of a Double gun? Better him than me.
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June 22, 2011, 07:12 AM | #3 |
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Thats one bird every 5.5 seconds for a eight hour day.
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June 22, 2011, 07:55 AM | #4 |
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What brand of SxS?
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June 22, 2011, 08:23 AM | #5 |
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I hope he likes the taste of dove.
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June 22, 2011, 08:27 AM | #6 |
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yes. There is no fun in killing animals if you cannot eat them....
Pass me the salt: they taste just like chicken... (not the doves 8-) ) |
June 22, 2011, 08:41 AM | #7 |
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The dove get passed onto the local villages as free food. The lodge where he is staying will also use some for dinner
And you do realize that he most likely has a trio of those guns AND loaders so he can keep his focus on the birds. A magazine I subscribe to had an ad featuring a man from N. Ireland who fired over 10,000 rounds in one day (with 4 loaders) and killed over 7700 birds using Benelli semis. IIRC, the ad was for something like Bob Allen shooting gloves. Doves are pest there - the goal is to eradicate as many as you can. The farmers in Cordoba region are losing 30% of their grain crop to the dove. Instead of poisoning the fields, they came up with this idea. This really isn't dove "hunting", it is dove "shooting" |
June 22, 2011, 10:38 AM | #8 |
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That record is incredible. But remember, he had 5-6 autos (6 shots) and loaders. The guy with the double worked alone!!
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June 22, 2011, 11:45 AM | #9 |
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Some years ago, in an effort to eradicate pigeons, the City of Escondido briefly entertained the idea of evacuating the downtown area so they could bring in bird shooters.
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One gent I shoot with arranges these trips to Argentina (and other parts of the world). He goes there several times per year. They can't kill enough of these doves to make any inroad into stopping their destruction. Current estimates are 10,000,000 breeding pairs in Cordoba that breed 3-4X/year, producing 3-4 babies at a time. With all of the grain and other crops, they are no longer migrating. While they're not quite to the point of paying YOU to come shoot them, the pricing is at one of its lowest costs in many years. I have friends going back next year (and I am TRYING to save up the cash to go) - all have said it is one experience every bird hunter should have |
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June 22, 2011, 12:47 PM | #12 |
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The ad does not say how many shots were fired, only how many doves were taken. I would suppose that he took several birds from most of his shots, especially with the right loads and proximity to the targets.
I'll bet his chiropractor loves him...and his ammo dealer...
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I get tired reloading and slinging a gun for an hour or two, I cant imagine doing that for an entire day and actually enjoying it.
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June 22, 2011, 01:27 PM | #15 |
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I don't get it.
What am I missing? What does this prove and how was it such a great thing. Don't get me wrong, I probably could not do it nor would I have any such interest. In the past, we go to nothern Missouri and at time, we have shot our limit. We eat what we shoot. Once shot doves in Texas and those don't taste as good. It's not the shooting of doves that I have a problem with, it's the numbers and then making of a big deal of it. .... :barf:
Now, if this is a conservation effort and you want to thin the population, I can understand that but just to see how many you can kill, is not my idea of sport. .... Be Safe !!! |
June 22, 2011, 01:45 PM | #16 |
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As I mentioned above - it IS a conservation thing of sorts - if folks don't help thin the population, the farmers will resort to poison - that will result in indiscriminate deaths for all types of animals
The stamina involved is an amazing thing in and of itself - being able to physically handle that volume of firing in one day is not something the average person typically is capable of performing. Remember, this is NOT dove HUNTING, it IS dove SHOOTING - there is a difference that many may not grasp at first |
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I forget the name of the town,,,
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The Upper Peninsula (Michigan) town we lived in had a pigeon problem. They shut down the courthouse area for several days,,, Boy Scouts from all over were invited to come in with their air rifles. Never saw a thing like that again. Aarond
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Here's my take on this....
The ecosystem has an artificially inflated food base from crop cultivation. If the farmers suffer enough losses from crop depredation, they'll stop growing crops. Then all the birds and quite a few people starve. Shooting ( not hunting) the birds keeps the system profitable. While it's not everyones' cup of tea, organized shooting parties serve a need and fuel the local economy in a Third World country. The dead birds get eaten. I'll never be able to afford Argentina. If I could, I might do as a buddy does and limit myself to a flat of shells in the AM, another in the PM. I would probably work on certain angles and presentations rather than the biggest body count, but that's just me. My recommendation for anyone going to an Estancia is to stop when it starts feeling like work..... |
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Dave, Cordoba trips will run about $3,000 all told for a three day trip, not including airfare, but including anywhere from 1500 to 2500 shells. After that is about $11/box.
And what you said about shooting certain angles, etc., is exactly what my friends do after the initial rush - they'll only L2R crosser for a bit, then R2L ones, then direct incomers, or other variations My body is ready, but my wallet needs a little more time to prepare....... |
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Got a link or anything to back this world record up? I can't find a thing about it anywhere..
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Here's one who used Beretta semis:
http://www.argentinadoveshooting.com...rld-record.php An excerpt: Quote:
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I understand !!!
Well now, I now understand that indeed, it's a Consevation effort and not a hunt. We have these in our state, in order to reduce Whitetail populations on county and city properties. I have been a monitor on a few. I accept that it has to be done but sure breaks my heart to see so many yearlings not make it to maturity. Most "shoots" are met with mixed results and criticism. At any rate, we don't tell stories about them, only actual hunts. ....
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Thanks, 1 oz. Same situation here, wallet's not ready.
One guy I know did the whole enchilida, doves, pigeons, perdiz and ducks. He spent the last day of his time there fishing just because he was burnt out. He shoots pretty good. Another guy I know slightly shot 1501 doves in one day using several Benelli 20 gauges. He said that was enough for him and shot less the other days. Were I going, I think I'd get Cole to fit a set of 28 gauge barrels to the Onyx and use them.... |
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From the hunter's perspective it IS an actual hunt. From the perspective of the farmers it's a crop preservation effort that they don't have to pay for. From the perspective of the guide and his employees it's a living. From the perspective of nearby villagers it's free food. From the perspective of the local economy it's a tourist attraction with all the benefits that provides. From the perspective of conservation it's maintaining a healthy dove population to prevent dove overpopulation and the horrors that attend such problems. (Disease, starvation, less humane method of population control--remember how they killed the passenger pigeons by burning sulfur under the trees they roosted in at night, etc.) If there's a downside I'm really not seeing it. In fact it's an ingenious approach that simultaneously solves a number of problems and benefits a large number of people. So, which is better in your opinion and more "story worthy"? A.) Littering a pasture with broken clay fragments? B.) Shooting a small number of doves in the U.S that aren't really hurting anyone or anything, from a population that isn't in any danger of becoming overpopulated and when the dead doves don't really provide any significant food source to anyone who actually needs it? C.) Benefiting a third world local economy, preserving the crops of indigent farmers, providing food for poor villagers, helping to solve a conservation problem, helping employ people who might not otherwise be able to find work, doing it ALL at once AND having fun in the bargain?
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June 23, 2011, 12:06 PM | #25 |
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I wish we had a similar situation here - it sure sounds like a lot of fun.
I do have one shooting friend who does arrange these shoots (and others around the world). IF anyone is interested, PM me and I'll pass on his email. I have NO vested interest in his business |
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