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Old December 19, 2023, 10:57 PM   #1
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Pointy cast bullets in 308 Winchester

These are the NOE309-153-SP loaded into dummy cartridges. They feed great through the AICS magazines for the Ruger Hunter and the hinged floor plate for the Remington Model 7. Testing at the range soon...

This is my new rifle handload testing project and I feel good about the process and progress so far. I bought and cast a new rifle bullet mold, this is the NOE309-153-SP. I made the bullets of a soft metal 1.5% tin 1.5% antimony using the rcbs dipper (ladle casting) over a sauce pot on a turkey fryer. I powder coated the bullets with ultimate chrome paint.
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Old December 20, 2023, 11:06 AM   #2
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Nice work.

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Nice work.

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Hello Uncle Nick. I have resized and reposted the photographs in a lower resolution. Please let me know if this works better for the The Firing Line Forum.
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Old December 24, 2023, 10:26 PM   #5
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Thanks. Looks good now!
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Old December 25, 2023, 03:25 PM   #6
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Interesting. No lube groove. Have you shot any yet? All my bullets molds have lube grooves so does powder coating totally remove the need for lube? I've been casting bullets for a very long time but got away from it in 2020 due to a vehicle wreck. Seems there's been some changes since I last cast. Decided I'm going to start up right after New Years' Day.
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Interesting. No lube groove. Have you shot any yet? All my bullets molds have lube grooves so does powder coating totally remove the need for lube? I've been casting bullets for a very long time but got away from it in 2020 due to a vehicle wreck. Seems there's been some changes since I last cast. Decided I'm going to start up right after New Years' Day.

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I have not shot any yet. Eventually I'm going to make some dummies and test them in my RARR 300 Blackout. I want to load them subsonic with Bullseye gunpowder. If they feed through the MagPul BLK magazines that will be awesome.
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Old February 27, 2024, 08:13 PM   #8
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Update: the pointy cast bullets shot ok in 300 blackout through the ruger bolt action rifle. I loaded them over 4 grains of bullseye gun powder.
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Old February 27, 2024, 10:42 PM   #9
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...does powder coating totally remove the need for lube?
Yes.
And ups the "effective" BHN-related pressure regime "quite a bit."
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Powder coating is definitely a game changer for casting. I doubt I would have even started casting if PC wasn't so easy. Lubrisizers are expensive, and the liquid Alox method seems less than ideal (on top of needing special Lee molds). I was casting and PCing bullets that shot great after my first casting session (I culled that whole session, that was my learning curve was one casting session of about an hour).

For PC, I don't use the airsoft BB method. I simply preheat the projectiles to be coated to a little less than "can barely stand to hold it in my hand hot," then throw in a bin with powder. Swirl them around for a minute, and they're coated. Often too thickly and not evenly. Then I swirl them around in an empty bin, dumping them into another empty bin. The loose powder will still be in the bottom of the bin, and you can dump this into your Powder bin. Repeat this until there is almost no loose powder in the bottom of the bin after swirling. I then bake to the powder manufacturers specs, and dump them in water immediately after pulling out of the oven. I size after PCing. It's literally so easy a cave man could do it.
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Old April 9, 2024, 12:16 PM   #12
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Second update: I have tested some more of these pointy 30 caliber bullets with 4.5 G of Bullseye powder loaded into 300 Blackout brass fired from the Ruger Ranch Rifle at 50 yards from a wobbly semi-improvised bench with excessive caffeination. I was able to get 10 and 20 shot groups about the size of an egg. There is no deposit of polymer or lead inside of the barrel rifling. The rate of twist is one and seven. I think that the bullets are age hardening based on how it feels seating the bullet and how that correlates with neck tension. They all fed really well. 100% feeding from magazine:-). I have cast some additional amount from a much harder lead, almost as hard as linotype. After these age Harden I'm going to test them with IMR 3031 in 308 Winchester brass and find out if the plain base bullets will be accurate. Oh these harder ones are also light blue.
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Old June 9, 2024, 09:36 PM   #13
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I have made a box of these handloads which consist of the 150 grain pointy bullets Over 6.5 Grain of alliant bullseye in 308 Winchester RP brass.

They are pretty accurate and 50 yards a five shot group will have the bullets holes touching each other.

Takes many shots for the gun to get hot and The Recoil is very minimal.
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