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Old January 11, 2013, 06:50 PM   #1
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Cabelas price gouging

Since when is a USED Ruger GP100 with obvious handling marks worth $700?

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Old January 11, 2013, 06:53 PM   #2
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When someone is fool enough to pay it.

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Old January 11, 2013, 06:54 PM   #3
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$700 for a revolver? nah maybe a semi used.
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Old January 11, 2013, 06:55 PM   #4
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In my opinion Cabelas is a gun museum, not somewhere to buy but rather look. I see something I like at Cabelas, take a picture, and show it to my local gun shop.
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Old January 11, 2013, 06:56 PM   #5
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Is the a Wiley Clapp Gp100? I saw some at cabelas not to long ago and I'd rock one of them if I had the time to wait in line.
Don't forget, you can wheel and deal at cabelas. I got $200 off an STI Ranger III
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Old January 11, 2013, 07:01 PM   #6
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Cabelas' used to be a great place to shop but it seems they have really upped their prices in the last few years and more so lately. I get better deals at my lgs. with no shipping charges.
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Old January 11, 2013, 07:04 PM   #7
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I've always found Cabelas a nice place to browse but a relatively expensive place to buy.

Much prefer Sportsmans Warehouse if I elect to go to a big box type store. Their prices are generally very competitive.
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Old January 11, 2013, 07:18 PM   #8
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There are so many threads about theBS term called gouging.....
There is NO such thing as gouging if someone WILLINGLY pays the asking price. Just because YOU think it is too high, does not mean others do. If they are selling these guns at their asking price, then they are priced correctly.

Personally, I find pump guns at $300 plus to be ridiculous, but a good SXS at $4000 is priced right

Gouging is a poor term.
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Old January 11, 2013, 07:35 PM   #9
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$700 for a revolver? nah maybe a semi used.
When is the last time you looked at revolver prices? It's not uncommon at all to spend $700+ on a revolver. But as far as $700 for a used or even new GP100 sounds high.

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There is NO such thing as gouging if someone WILLINGLY pays the asking price. Just because YOU think it is too high, does not mean others do. If they are selling these guns at their asking price, then they are priced correctly.
Well, there is such thing as price gouging. Every product has an industry standard for a pricing point, especially when guns are given an MSRP from the factory. I have seen AR's and even 10/22's selling above the MSRP, if that's not price gouging I don't know what is.
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Old January 11, 2013, 07:45 PM   #10
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MSRP = Manufacturers SUGGESTED Retail Price. It is not manditory. It is a suggestion. Either way it has nothing to do with how someone prices a used item.

I can ASK anything I want for anything. You don't have to pay it. You can offer less. I don't have to take it.

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Old January 11, 2013, 07:48 PM   #11
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IMHO cabelas is about right for retail guns. They are much cheaper then gander mountain with better service. That said on most purchases online will be less expensive even with transfer fees.

I have got some really good deals at cabelas when guns are on sale or when I acquire points on their Visa card. For example couple month ago I got a px4 for 375 after points and rebate and recently picked up a Kahr pm 9 for 350 after coupon, points and a couple of gift cards.

Hint I use their Visa card for work expenses, gas etc etc.
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Old January 11, 2013, 07:58 PM   #12
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MSRP = Manufacturers SUGGESTED Retail Price. It is not manditory. It is a suggestion. Either way it has nothing to do with how someone prices a used item.
Never said it was mandatory, but its put in place to give an idea of what they think the gun can fetch in the market. Now MSRP aside every gun has an industry standard for what it sells for, give or take $50-100. Most shops try to keep up with this pricing point to stay competitive, and then there are some that are charging ridiculous amounts that are close to or more than the MSRP. Sure you can ask whatever you want for a particular gun, but just because there are chumps out there willing to pay those prices does not mean price gouging does not exist.
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Old January 11, 2013, 07:59 PM   #13
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I agree with the others, it is not gouging if you are willing. If you have a gun store and want to stay in business then you need product to sell. If you cant get any product to sell then what do you do? You still have bills and your employees still want a paycheck but if you have nothing to sell then what? No one is forcing you to buy from them, they are a big box store, I try to support my LGS but if they are out of line with a price and I can get it for much cheaper then as a consumer I will choose with my checkbook.
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Old January 11, 2013, 08:05 PM   #14
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I would not sell my GP 100 for $700 right now, unless I knew I could replace it immediately for significantly less. In the current market replacement guns are hard to get, with long waits. I do not fault anyone for asking a higher price at this time. Some people are crazy to have ARs right now and willing to pay huge premiums to get them. Blaming the seller is silly. The industry pricing point went out the window when demand exceeded supply...
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Old January 11, 2013, 08:10 PM   #15
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I agree with the others, it is not gouging if you are willing. If you have a gun store and want to stay in business then you need product to sell. If you cant get any product to sell then what do you do? You still have bills and your employees still want a paycheck but if you have nothing to sell then what?
The reason these stores have no product to sell is because they just sold all their product in record time, aka they just made a boat load of cash. When a shop typically sells 10 AR's in a couple weeks, I feel no pitty for them when they sell 50 in 2 days and have no supply left to sell.

Regardless of if you are willing to pay the inflated price, if it is leaps and bounds over the industry standard, ITS PRICE GOUGING.
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Old January 11, 2013, 08:15 PM   #16
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The reason these stores have no product to sell is because they just sold all their product in record time, aka they just made a boat load of cash. When a shop typically sells 10 AR's in a couple weeks, I feel no pitty for them when they sell 50 in 2 days and have no supply left to sell.

Regardless of if you are willing to pay the inflated price, if it is leaps and bounds over the industry standard, ITS PRICE GOUGING.
Some of those stores only carried inventory that was very light. If they normally sold 10 ARs a month and only had 10 in stock, they sold a month's worth of inventory. Now, they might not be able to get more ARs to sell for six months or more. How are they going to offset that income?
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Old January 11, 2013, 08:18 PM   #17
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It's only gouging to those who either can't, or don't want to, pay the price to play.


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Old January 11, 2013, 08:22 PM   #18
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Some of those stores only carried inventory that was very light. If they normally sold 10 ARs a month and only had 10 in stock, they sold a month's worth of inventory. Now, they might not be able to get more ARs to sell for six months or more. How are they going to offset that income?
I see where you are coming from, but that's the risk of running a business that way, especially in the very unpredictable firearm industry. Keeping a very light inventory and depending on an item being in stock every time you need to re-supply is risky and whats happening right now is why. Even so, that shop is still ahead of schedule as far as sales go.
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Old January 11, 2013, 08:27 PM   #19
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Price gouging on non-necessity items is a socialist/communist concept.

Buyers set prices. Buyers.

Sellers have no ability to set pricing. None.

If buyers are willing to pay a price, it get's paid. If they're not, it doesn't and the seller if FORCED to ASK for less because the buyers aren't WILLING to pay the ASKING price.

It's funny to me that asking for a higher price than someone is willing to pay makes a seller a dirty, rotten, greedy scumbag but demanding the lowest possible price as a buyer is just... what? Common sense? Smart?

Nope. Sorry.

This sort of thing should be applauded. It is every bit as much a part of freedom as is religion, speech and bearing arms.
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Old January 11, 2013, 08:45 PM   #20
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I would take it a step further than Brian,

I would argue that price gouging on any item (even necessities) is a socialist/communist concept.

The primary function of prices in an economy is to CONVEY INFORMATION. Prices provide information about the relative scarcity and relative demand for resources. This information is used to allocate resources.

Interfere with natural pricing mechanisms and you interfere with the information flow in the economy--you break it, every time. Allowing prices to find their natural level is in fact MOST important when it comes to necessities like food, gas, shelter, etc.

The reality here is that there is considerable risk that these resources (semi autos) will soon be much more difficult to obtain. Pricing has changed to reflect that risk.

By claiming prices are too high in a particular store, you are simply claiming that you don't believe the information contained in that price. You might be right, or you might be wrong, but either way the pricing has made the resource allocation work.
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Old January 11, 2013, 09:00 PM   #21
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Funny they didn't raise prices on any of their AR 'S OR hi cap Mag's. How dare they not do what every one else is doing.
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Old January 11, 2013, 10:40 PM   #22
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[QUOTE]I've always found Cabelas a nice place to browse but a relatively expensive place to buy.

Much prefer Sportsmans Warehouse if I elect to go to a big box type store. Their prices are generally very competitive./QUOTE]

Shopping at Cabelas is fun.
Shopping at Sportsmans is real.

If you have one near you, it's worth the drive. They're nothing fancy, but they sell the quality stuff you need at a price you can afford.
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Old January 11, 2013, 11:11 PM   #23
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I would say they are taking advantage of the current buying frenzy-
I saw earlier that they had CCI small pistol and rifle primers for $59.99 per 1000, They were in back order. I think that is a bit of a bump form the 30 bucks they were a few months back.
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Old January 11, 2013, 11:25 PM   #24
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People sure like to throw terms around without knowing what they mean.

In the US, at least in the legal sense of the phrase, "price gouging" refers to high markups on prices of essential goods during a declared state of emergency.

That is what it means.

You don't have to like Cabela's pricing structure, but calling it price gouging makes one sound like that blustering old guy at the bar - you know, kind of like Biden....
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Old January 11, 2013, 11:27 PM   #25
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The way I buy guns at Cabela's, or Bass Pro is with gift cards, and points gained by using their credit cards. Won't work too well if you carry a balance because of the interest, but I pay it off each month. That usually means a couple hundred dollars off the price. The best so far was a Remington 870 Express Synthetic 18". With a couple $50 gift cards from birthday, and fathers day coupled with my points it cost me exactly NOTHING'. Zero, zilch, nada!,
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