Goodbye 7mm-08AI

std7mag · May 20, 2018, 08:38 PM

Well the barrel on my Stevens 200 in 7mm-08AI is finally shot out.
Still shoots well. But throat is waaaayyyy worn out. Bullets are seated out too far.

Going on this week in a 24" E.R. Shaw barrel in 250 Savage.
Looking forward to learning and shooting it.
But gonna miss the 7mm-08.

Tallest · May 21, 2018, 01:21 PM

Sounds like it's had a good life! Still, sort of sad. I think if my 7-08 went kaput, I would have to replace it. It's not an AI, but I love the round.

The 250 Savage looks like a lot of fun too though! And I applaud the mindset that can let a good thing go to learn something new. I'm a rut-bound traditionalist myself, most of the time, but I see the shortcomings in being that way.

std7mag · May 21, 2018, 06:30 PM

Well it's not the final farewell to that caliber.
At some point in time ( next year) i do plan on doing a build on a Savage Axis action.
I still have the 7mm-08AI reamer and gages.
Plan on a designated target rifle.
While i know many would doubt my choice of action and barrel i'm thinking an E.R. Shaw heavy barrel.
They have done quite well by me, and i like that i'm supporting a local company.

Would really love to try one of Pac-Nor's polygonal barrels.

30Cal · May 21, 2018, 07:34 PM

Can you rechamber to 7x57 AI?

std7mag · May 21, 2018, 08:39 PM

Hmmm, definitely possible.

But already have barrel off, new barrel screwed loosely on.
Just waiting for USPS to deliver headspace gages. Tomorrow hopefully.

Well, i checked COAL on thr 7X57. It would work as far as the barrel is concerned.
Alas, i wouldn't be able to load the magazine. COL too long as it is now for that.
Would run into interference issues with a longer box.

briandg · May 21, 2018, 10:23 PM

Could have easily converted to .280 remington if you had the long action, simple rechamber job.

5whiskey · May 21, 2018, 10:59 PM

I have an ER Shaw barrelled Savage that is a great shooter. And I know first hand that a Savage Axis can be a shooter. It takes some work to make it into it, but for guys like you and I that is the whole point I think.

stagpanther · May 22, 2018, 02:37 AM

I'm assuming you can run the bullet out further being a bolt action--and savage generally is generous with their magazines--you should give serious thought to the 284 win--in a lengthened cartridge it should be a great long range shooter for you. I remain convinced (meaning hopeful) that some new powder formulation is going to make that case capacity more efficient. Reminds me that I need to get back to doing some load development for the 284 AR I built.

Doyle · May 22, 2018, 06:40 AM

I'm curious. Being that this is a Savage action (and therefore easy to re-install at home), couldn't you just get a gunsmith to chuck that barrel up in a lathe and trim up the rear of the barrel and re-cut the chamber?

std7mag · May 22, 2018, 02:55 PM

Doyle,
Your right i could have a machinist friend of mine take 0.030" off.
But like i said, i already have the 250 Savage barrel. ( have had it for over a year now)

Stagpanther,
I have my custom Mauser in 284 Win. Shooting 150gr. ELDX, ABLR, 154gr SST. . Have been enjoying it emensly!
I also love my Ruger 77MKII in 257 Roberts. One of these days i'd like to build a 25 Souper, and a 25- 6.5mm Rem Mag.

stagpanther · May 22, 2018, 04:42 PM

I've been tossing around the idea of building a 25 WSSM AR15.

std7mag · May 22, 2018, 08:04 PM

Now you have my interest!!

Maybe a shortened 25-284.
I don't know of anyone messing with something like that.

stagpanther · May 22, 2018, 09:13 PM

It's been done already--the biggest problem seems to be lack of brass--place called hill billy brass seems to be the only game in town.

std7mag · May 23, 2018, 03:47 PM

25-300 RCM?
Or 25-375 Ruger?

Still waiting on the 25-378 Weatherby.

stagpanther · May 23, 2018, 04:43 PM

I'm cooling on the 25 WSSM--I'm seeing brass longevity issues keep popping up--especially neck splitting.

Hunter Customs · May 23, 2018, 06:06 PM

I have a long action Savage, I might be interested in the barrel if it's for sale.

std7mag · May 23, 2018, 08:21 PM

Hmmm,

Sorry Hunter, you just gave me a great idea...

Wendyj · May 24, 2018, 05:06 PM

7 mag after all that time with the 7-08 AI I can't believe you've traded out. Lol. I'm always wanting something new to try. Gone on a lever action kick now. Love it but ready to go back to bolt guns. Meant to ask you if you were far from Tiago??

std7mag · May 24, 2018, 08:02 PM

Wendy,

There will be a 7mm-08AI target rifle in my future.
Planning on getting a long action and do a 7mmRCM with this barrel for hunting.

What is a Tiago??

old roper · May 24, 2018, 09:16 PM

std7mag, Won't you be pretty close to 284 Sherman? I've got 284 long action and 280AI and I've looked at the 284 Sherman also 7 RSAUM. I haven't kept up with 7RCM and I think Pacific was making some reamers.

std7mag · May 25, 2018, 02:47 PM

Roper
7mm RCM should be detween 284 Win and RSAUM or WSM.
I know most of the reloading manuals put the 284 Win slightly faster than 280 Rem, slightly slower than 280AI.

I know Gunwerks did the 7mm LRM (Long Range Magnum) on the full length 375 Ruger casing.

I'd love to develop my 7mm Std Mag. But need to win not so small lottery.
Parent casings $120 for 20, if i can find them. Plus cost of reamers, etc..

old roper · May 26, 2018, 01:24 PM

std7mag, My 284 is on long action so I can seat bullet out to appr 3.300" and velocity can be low 3000fps with 160gr/168gr bullets. My 280AI is long throated so I can seat out to appr 3.500" and both barrels are Lilja.

Myself I'd take 28 Nosler over Gunwreks 7mm LRM.

$6 for case is pretty high.

stagpanther · May 26, 2018, 01:33 PM

Sounds like some very cool hardware roper! I shot a friend's 7mmRUM BDL and I thought it was very reasonable in recoil--not nearly as hard hitting as my 375 ruger. Long live the 7mm/284!

std7mag · May 26, 2018, 02:20 PM

My 284 also built on a long action.

Maybe 7.21 Tomohawk.

May 20, 2018, 08:38 PM	#1
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Goodbye 7mm-08AI Well the barrel on my Stevens 200 in 7mm-08AI is finally shot out. Still shoots well. But throat is waaaayyyy worn out. Bullets are seated out too far. Going on this week in a 24" E.R. Shaw barrel in 250 Savage. Looking forward to learning and shooting it. But gonna miss the 7mm-08. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

May 21, 2018, 01:21 PM	#2
Tallest Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2016 Location: West of the Atlantic Posts: 418	Sounds like it's had a good life! Still, sort of sad. I think if my 7-08 went kaput, I would have to replace it. It's not an AI, but I love the round. The 250 Savage looks like a lot of fun too though! And I applaud the mindset that can let a good thing go to learn something new. I'm a rut-bound traditionalist myself, most of the time, but I see the shortcomings in being that way. __________________ Matthew "All men are ignorant. The topics of our ignorance may vary, but the nature of the world is that no man may know everything." ~ R Jordan

May 21, 2018, 06:30 PM	#3
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Well it's not the final farewell to that caliber. At some point in time ( next year) i do plan on doing a build on a Savage Axis action. I still have the 7mm-08AI reamer and gages. Plan on a designated target rifle. While i know many would doubt my choice of action and barrel i'm thinking an E.R. Shaw heavy barrel. They have done quite well by me, and i like that i'm supporting a local company. Would really love to try one of Pac-Nor's polygonal barrels. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

May 21, 2018, 08:39 PM	#5
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Hmmm, definitely possible. But already have barrel off, new barrel screwed loosely on. Just waiting for USPS to deliver headspace gages. Tomorrow hopefully. Well, i checked COAL on thr 7X57. It would work as far as the barrel is concerned. Alas, i wouldn't be able to load the magazine. COL too long as it is now for that. Would run into interference issues with a longer box. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope... Last edited by std7mag; May 21, 2018 at 09:24 PM.

May 21, 2018, 10:23 PM	#6
briandg Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2010 Posts: 5,468	Could have easily converted to .280 remington if you had the long action, simple rechamber job. __________________ None.

May 21, 2018, 07:34 PM	#4
30Cal Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2002 Posts: 1,264	Can you rechamber to 7x57 AI?

May 21, 2018, 10:59 PM	#7
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,652	I have an ER Shaw barrelled Savage that is a great shooter. And I know first hand that a Savage Axis can be a shooter. It takes some work to make it into it, but for guys like you and I that is the whole point I think. __________________ Support the NRA-ILA Auction, ends 03/09/2018 https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=593946

May 22, 2018, 02:37 AM	#8
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,751	I'm assuming you can run the bullet out further being a bolt action--and savage generally is generous with their magazines--you should give serious thought to the 284 win--in a lengthened cartridge it should be a great long range shooter for you. I remain convinced (meaning hopeful) that some new powder formulation is going to make that case capacity more efficient. Reminds me that I need to get back to doing some load development for the 284 AR I built. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!* Last edited by stagpanther; May 22, 2018 at 04:37 AM.

May 22, 2018, 06:40 AM	#9
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Rainbow City, Alabama Posts: 7,167	I'm curious. Being that this is a Savage action (and therefore easy to re-install at home), couldn't you just get a gunsmith to chuck that barrel up in a lathe and trim up the rear of the barrel and re-cut the chamber?

May 22, 2018, 02:55 PM	#10
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Doyle, Your right i could have a machinist friend of mine take 0.030" off. But like i said, i already have the 250 Savage barrel. ( have had it for over a year now) Stagpanther, I have my custom Mauser in 284 Win. Shooting 150gr. ELDX, ABLR, 154gr SST. . Have been enjoying it emensly! I also love my Ruger 77MKII in 257 Roberts. One of these days i'd like to build a 25 Souper, and a 25- 6.5mm Rem Mag. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

May 22, 2018, 04:42 PM	#11
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,751	I've been tossing around the idea of building a 25 WSSM AR15. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

May 22, 2018, 08:04 PM	#12
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Now you have my interest!! Maybe a shortened 25-284. I don't know of anyone messing with something like that. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

May 22, 2018, 09:13 PM	#13
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,751	It's been done already--the biggest problem seems to be lack of brass--place called hill billy brass seems to be the only game in town. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!* Last edited by stagpanther; May 22, 2018 at 09:20 PM.

May 23, 2018, 03:47 PM	#14
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	25-300 RCM? Or 25-375 Ruger? Still waiting on the 25-378 Weatherby. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

May 23, 2018, 04:43 PM	#15
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,751	I'm cooling on the 25 WSSM--I'm seeing brass longevity issues keep popping up--especially neck splitting. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

May 23, 2018, 06:06 PM	#16
Hunter Customs Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2005 Location: Osborn, Missouri Posts: 2,697	I have a long action Savage, I might be interested in the barrel if it's for sale.

May 23, 2018, 08:21 PM	#17
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Hmmm, Sorry Hunter, you just gave me a great idea... __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

May 24, 2018, 05:06 PM	#18
Wendyj Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2015 Location: North Georgia Posts: 1,372	7 mag after all that time with the 7-08 AI I can't believe you've traded out. Lol. I'm always wanting something new to try. Gone on a lever action kick now. Love it but ready to go back to bolt guns. Meant to ask you if you were far from Tiago?? __________________ God is NOT dead!!!!

May 24, 2018, 08:02 PM	#19
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Wendy, There will be a 7mm-08AI target rifle in my future. Planning on getting a long action and do a 7mmRCM with this barrel for hunting. What is a Tiago?? __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

May 24, 2018, 09:16 PM	#20
old roper Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Posts: 2,155	std7mag, Won't you be pretty close to 284 Sherman? I've got 284 long action and 280AI and I've looked at the 284 Sherman also 7 RSAUM. I haven't kept up with 7RCM and I think Pacific was making some reamers. __________________ Semper Fi Vietnam 1965 VFW Life member NRA Life Member

May 25, 2018, 02:47 PM	#21
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Roper 7mm RCM should be detween 284 Win and RSAUM or WSM. I know most of the reloading manuals put the 284 Win slightly faster than 280 Rem, slightly slower than 280AI. I know Gunwerks did the 7mm LRM (Long Range Magnum) on the full length 375 Ruger casing. I'd love to develop my 7mm Std Mag. But need to win not so small lottery. Parent casings $120 for 20, if i can find them. Plus cost of reamers, etc.. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

May 26, 2018, 01:24 PM	#22
old roper Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Posts: 2,155	std7mag, My 284 is on long action so I can seat bullet out to appr 3.300" and velocity can be low 3000fps with 160gr/168gr bullets. My 280AI is long throated so I can seat out to appr 3.500" and both barrels are Lilja. Myself I'd take 28 Nosler over Gunwreks 7mm LRM. $6 for case is pretty high. __________________ Semper Fi Vietnam 1965 VFW Life member NRA Life Member

May 26, 2018, 01:33 PM	#23
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,751	Sounds like some very cool hardware roper! I shot a friend's 7mmRUM BDL and I thought it was very reasonable in recoil--not nearly as hard hitting as my 375 ruger. Long live the 7mm/284! __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

May 26, 2018, 02:20 PM	#24
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	My 284 also built on a long action. Maybe 7.21 Tomohawk. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

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