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May 22, 2021, 04:07 PM | #26 |
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Yes. I live in eastern Idaho and walk my dogs at 3-4AM. No grizzlies in this area, but there are some blacks, and some visitors in the night in the yard
And some during the daytime And the sudden appearance during a early AM walk when a full bull moose came out from behind a row of trees.... But I do not carry a caliber to kill....just to scare away and it works on lions quite well.
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May 24, 2021, 08:58 AM | #27 |
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That is an awesome lion photo!
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May 24, 2021, 10:58 AM | #28 |
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A few years ago .A neighbor had 3 hybrid wolves .
Was going to work one morning . When they were going through the trash . I was carrying a BERETTA 21 A At the time . Next day went back to My MP 40C Told her next time I will Cancel Christmas for her animals . She had her ELECTRIC FENCE FIXED.
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May 24, 2021, 12:59 PM | #29 |
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It's amazing how warnings like that seem to work... A neighbor had a dog that came up to me barking in a threatening manor in my driveway when I first moved here. Fortunately the owner of the animal was there to stop it. I told him to control his dog or I'd end it. I open packed around the yard for the next few days. The problem went away...
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May 25, 2021, 03:50 AM | #31 |
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I have been hunting the swamps for years and frequent encounters with bears. Never a problem. I do carry a sidearm, but only for any two legged creatures I might encounter so far back in. Actually my biggest scare is TICKS.
The concern of 4 legged creatures come from my suburban neighborhood. Jerks with vicious dogs. Last edited by Carl the Floor Walker; May 25, 2021 at 10:40 AM. |
May 25, 2021, 07:30 AM | #32 |
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When in Alaska, yes.
Last time I was up there, it seemed everyone going into the bush was packing a 10mm of some flavor - Glock 20s mostly, but a couple had the then-new G40 longlside. Others had 1911s in 10mm. Saw a few big magnum revolvers too. While not everyone was carrying their weapon in a chest holster, that type of rig seemed to be getting popular. Unlike a hip holster, it doesn't catch every bush or branch going through the woods and boonies.
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May 25, 2021, 12:35 PM | #34 |
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Thanks!
He and our GSD are two of the larger 4 legged critters in the area.
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May 25, 2021, 04:41 PM | #35 |
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We don't have too many dangerous 4 legged critters in NW Ohio but I will confess to dispatching 1 woodchuck behind my sand pile bullet stop with my Springfield XDs .45 while mowing the lawn.
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May 26, 2021, 10:07 PM | #38 |
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I take a handgun along now on my daily 2-3 mile morning jaunt along our farm road...not for bears, but for a pair of overly aggressive Dobermans a 1/2 mile down the road. I've been 'nibbled' 3x now, not bitten by the pair, but had my hand aggressively 'mouthed'. Owner is sincerely apologetic, loves his dogs, but has no clue as to training. Animal control has been notified as have local county LEO's.
Kids on bikes, young moms pushing prams...old couples doing their daily constitutional...all vulnerable...I'm prepared but the others are not. For me it's a S&W M60 with +P .38's, and long familiarity with the combination's use. Hope to all get out, the owner accepts my advice, and that of the LEO's that have responded. For fishing in bear country...read the Smokies along the NC/TN border...I carry a S&W M69 stoked with Hornady XTP's or Keith's load. (The gun takes magnums and weighs 38 oz. empty so it's easy on the belt or chest). I've not had to use it along the remote trout streams that I fish, down there, but the gun & bear spray, give me some options in the event of a problem. That area, north of Fontana Lake, is well patrolled by park rangers so there's little chance of a standoff with druggies guarding their patch, but still.... Lastly, back in my 40-50's, I hunted Colorado's high country for elk, and once had to pack out my tag filler near dusk. Dreading the weight/altitude hike, I elected to leave my 35 Whelen Rem M700 in the jeep after the first load. On the way back to the kill site I found fresh bear tracks in the snow along my trail....with no gun, no spray & 100 lbs of meat on my back...what could possibly go wrong...I never saw that bear, but had the cold shakes all the way. (Left the kill lashed up in a couple spruce trees and retrieved it the next am.) That was the LAST time I went without a heavy handgun while hunting there. A chest or tanker type rig would have worked well, I think, with the pack board I was using... YMMv Rod
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May 26, 2021, 10:14 PM | #39 |
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Yes.
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May 28, 2021, 11:17 AM | #40 |
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I live in the Piedmont region of NC, about an hour from Charlotte, and the only 4 legged threat I really worry about is some meth-head's Pittbull.
It's been said that we have panthers around here but I've never seen one or know of anyone who has. We do have black bears in the mountains and out near the coast, but they are not typically aggressive. When folks visit us from up north we always warn them, the biggest threats you're likely to encounter down here are Fire-ants, Hornets, and Yellow-jackets. |
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You have to use a 44 mag or better for those!
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Thank hornet calls for merging this thread with the Snakeshot one.
https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=611680
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But don't underestimate the smaller ones, they hide in places that are quite unexpected... Like when you're fishing on the lake and one climbs in to your beer can or your beer bottle (Yellow-Jackets love beer!). You take a sip and the next think you know, your tongue is swelling and you're have a hard time breathing. BTW, this happened to me. Luckily, my reaction to the bee venom was not too quick or too severe. I carry an epi-pen these days. Last edited by peacefulgary; May 29, 2021 at 09:33 AM. |
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Or at least #00 buckshot.
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Yes. People with evil intent or contaminated thinking are always a concern. So are animals. Honestly, aggressive dogs are probably more of a concern where I live. Coyotes and black bears tend to stay away from people. I rarely see them but when I do, quiet observation is usually enjoyable. If you need them to go, shouting usually works.
The issue is if it doesn't. Given the size of black bears I've seen, .40 S&W is probably fine. Solids in .357 Sig or .357 magnum could be better, though a full barrel length would be wise in cases where those calibers are the right choice. Curiously, most of the animals I've "faced" would probably have fallen to a .380. One was a coyote that snarled a little before deciding to turn tail and run. One was a gray fox with cubs in her den. She barked and stood her ground, but knowing the situation, I backed away and let her be. Another was a foolishly aggressive goose. I say "foolishly" because a boot would have sufficed. It was on a friend's land though and he asked that I back away and give it space. |
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