Copper removal? - Page 2

mehavey · January 12, 2019, 08:33 PM

It's the same.
The Big Bore name has an anchor in that it was originally designed for canon.

zeke · January 12, 2019, 08:38 PM

My bottles say KG 12 big bore. I use hoppes and repeatedly scrub out he bore, than run tight dry patch through. Then a tight patch with kg 12 on it, using the instructions. If the patch comes out heavy, run another tight patch with kg 12. Then a nylon brush with kg 12, then patch over jag with kg 12. Then a dry patch and then clean out bore with hoppes. I clean off all the tools/rods with warm soapy water.

Am not about to try all the copper cleaners available, but the only copper cleaner i have tried that came close was cr 10 (Think barnes used to make it)

mehavey · January 12, 2019, 08:44 PM

I have pretty much tried them all.

See https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....ll=1#post42944

reynolds357 · January 12, 2019, 08:50 PM

Quote:

It's the same.
The Big Bore name has an anchor in that it was originally designed for canon.

Thanks. I was wondering because the kg12 I see in pictures and on YouTube is yellow. The kg12 big boar I have is orange. The big boar also appears orange in pics and on YouTube.

mehavey · January 12, 2019, 09:44 PM

KG-12 is orange
KG-1 (carbon remover) is light yellow.

offroadmatt · January 23, 2019, 01:54 PM

I've only had luck with montana x-treme stuff as well. But I'm going to try the KG! Sweets works well for light copper. But takes forever when breaking in a barrel with bad fouling. I like to wet a patch around a brush. Pull it through a couple times then replace patch and repeat until clean.

A lot of the rifles i see. Claim to be "cleaned" when they walk through the door. Almost 90% have copper fouling. I don't think most people grasp what "clean" means. Thats not to say if its still shooting that it necessarily need cleaned. Lots of guys wont clean a barrel till groups start opening up. But! They also tend to shoot several times a week. I don't believe a rifle should be stored dirty.

the possum · January 23, 2019, 02:43 PM

I have not tried many of the other products mentioned in this thread, but will add that I was amazed at Bore-Tech Eliminator. It turned heavy copper fouling deep blue in seconds, and I could not see any more copper at all, after 2 cycles of wet & dry patching. I like that this stuff doesn't stink, isn't poisonous, cleans up with water, and most importantly, won't harm steel if left in too long.

The KG stuff you guys are talking about sounds interesting, but I'm very impressed with the Bore Tech, so I won't bother trying anything new until my existing bottle is gone.

davidsog · January 23, 2019, 03:07 PM

Sweets 7.62.....

January 12, 2019, 08:38 PM	#27
zeke Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 1999 Location: NW Wi Posts: 1,671	My bottles say KG 12 big bore. I use hoppes and repeatedly scrub out he bore, than run tight dry patch through. Then a tight patch with kg 12 on it, using the instructions. If the patch comes out heavy, run another tight patch with kg 12. Then a nylon brush with kg 12, then patch over jag with kg 12. Then a dry patch and then clean out bore with hoppes. I clean off all the tools/rods with warm soapy water. Am not about to try all the copper cleaners available, but the only copper cleaner i have tried that came close was cr 10 (Think barnes used to make it) Last edited by zeke; January 12, 2019 at 09:06 PM.

January 23, 2019, 01:54 PM	#31
offroadmatt Member Join Date: January 7, 2018 Posts: 29	I've only had luck with montana x-treme stuff as well. But I'm going to try the KG! Sweets works well for light copper. But takes forever when breaking in a barrel with bad fouling. I like to wet a patch around a brush. Pull it through a couple times then replace patch and repeat until clean. A lot of the rifles i see. Claim to be "cleaned" when they walk through the door. Almost 90% have copper fouling. I don't think most people grasp what "clean" means. Thats not to say if its still shooting that it necessarily need cleaned. Lots of guys wont clean a barrel till groups start opening up. But! They also tend to shoot several times a week. I don't believe a rifle should be stored dirty. __________________ www.windageweaponry.com Gunsmithing and Custom Rifles Last edited by offroadmatt; January 23, 2019 at 02:00 PM.

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January 12, 2019, 08:33 PM	#26
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,883	It's the same. The Big Bore name has an anchor in that it was originally designed for canon.

January 12, 2019, 08:44 PM	#28
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,883	I have pretty much tried them all. See https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....ll=1#post42944

January 12, 2019, 09:44 PM	#30
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,883	KG-12 is orange KG-1 (carbon remover) is light yellow.

January 23, 2019, 02:43 PM	#32
the possum Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2004 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 555	I have not tried many of the other products mentioned in this thread, but will add that I was amazed at Bore-Tech Eliminator. It turned heavy copper fouling deep blue in seconds, and I could not see any more copper at all, after 2 cycles of wet & dry patching. I like that this stuff doesn't stink, isn't poisonous, cleans up with water, and most importantly, won't harm steel if left in too long. The KG stuff you guys are talking about sounds interesting, but I'm very impressed with the Bore Tech, so I won't bother trying anything new until my existing bottle is gone.

January 23, 2019, 03:07 PM	#33
davidsog Senior Member Join Date: January 13, 2018 Posts: 1,325	Sweets 7.62.....