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Old October 10, 2018, 06:20 PM   #1
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Expandable Batons

Anyone out there have a preference on a make and length for a expandable Baton. Would like to know , thanks .
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Old October 14, 2018, 02:35 AM   #2
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I have also been looking into batons. There are situations where it is a bad idea to deploy a firearm, such as crowded areas, and thumpy weapons can neutralize a hostile party much faster that an edged weapon usually, either knocking them out or stunning them or smacking them in the hand or forearm. It's been noted in many fights that people who get slashed may not notice until the fight is over due to adrenaline, so knifes aren't the best for "knockdown power," and 17 knife wounds hurt any case for self defense. Blunt instruments cause immediate pain and may damage muscle or bone, and with a strike to somewhere like a hand, it may end a fight much quicker without having to using terminally lethal force.
I have a couple wood clubs, one a mini-bat and another "sawed-off baseball bat" (a Louisville Slugger type Goodwill bat cut down short enough to wield with one hand) and am now looking over options for something that could be carried on a belt.

Been looking at surplus stuff. There's a lot of pricey stuff and a lot of the lower priced ones are sketchy AF. SMG has some British and Chinese police batons which I think I may get. They had them on sale recently but it appears to have ended.
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Old October 14, 2018, 07:36 PM   #3
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I am looking at the ASP Expandable baton friction loc 4140 steel 21" . They are up there in price but when push comes to shove , I want it to work . Be Ready , Be Safe . Thanks for answering
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Old October 14, 2018, 08:21 PM   #4
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Lots of us preferred the 21" models, the 24" seemed a little too long. If you can go to a store with both sizes, try swinging them and see which one feels better.
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Old October 14, 2018, 09:51 PM   #5
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Good advice . What baton do you like best.
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Old October 15, 2018, 08:31 AM   #6
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It is my impression (I have never owned one or even held one) that they do not have the weight to actually disable (break bones, render unconscious) an attacker, but more of a "punishment" weapon that encourages compliance. Do I have the wrong impression?
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Old October 15, 2018, 10:46 AM   #7
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I don't really know , I walk alot with my wife through parks and wooded area . Just something to carry instead of a walking with a walking stick.
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Old October 15, 2018, 10:46 AM   #8
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Better check your local laws. They're illegal to carry in Texas and I would imagine in other states/localities. I'm surprised they'd be legal in NY but I certainly don't know.
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Old October 15, 2018, 11:18 AM   #9
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I would think doing harm to anyone with anything to be illegal. Protecting yourself and loved ones is another subject . Everyone has that right no matter what you use . Maybe time to change the law if they are . Thanks for the heads up.
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Old October 15, 2018, 01:35 PM   #10
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They're illegal in a lot of places. Including NYS. Absolutely in NYC.
This is the best of many.
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Old October 15, 2018, 07:45 PM   #11
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I guess it's best to keep a aluminum bat hoping to get more time at the batting range safer.
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The length is based upon the user. Much like a baseball bat. Go to a store and try different lengths. Take the tail cap and place it in the pocket of your arm somewhat similar to a rifle. The tip of the baton should be at your finger tips. The smaller the baton the easier it is to control and recover from.

Second, learn the proper strikes and location on the body where you can strike. Such as the rear of the calf. The radial area near the wrist. The inner part of the leg, not the groin, and outter part of the thigh. As well as a few others.

Third, become aware of your local laws.

A collapsible baton is a useful weapon if you practice with it, and are comfortable deploying it. Think about how you are going to carry it. Drawing it, under stress, from a gun belt can be a task. Even with the rotating carrier. Having it in a large coat pocket or tucked in a waistband would be even harder I would imagine.
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It's never a even playing field , the bad one doesn't care about laws . The law abiding citizen goes through the background checks , pay money and time to get licensed . Then with all that if you decide to carry a tool less lethal in some areas it all goes out the window. I saw a demonstration on TV where a demonstrates using a baton hitting this guy's car and nothing happened to him , he just walked with it opened in his hand . It may be best to go back to the wild wild west where everyone has the right to protect themselves & loved ones with no restrictions.
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