FN Five Seven - Worth the price

banger · July 3, 2013, 08:22 PM

I've been thinking about one for my next purchase. I'm told they are ridiculous accurate. I found one at a local gun shop for $1300.00. (Ouch) Are they really worth it ?

45_auto · July 3, 2013, 08:27 PM

Not to me.

PSP · July 3, 2013, 09:15 PM

I have one I bought on the used market for a good price. It's a very high quality pistol with some unique and useful qualities. I wouldn't pay $1300 for one but at a decent price the 5.7 is a worthwhile pistol to own. Good gun, but I'd wait for a better deal.

Venom1956 · July 3, 2013, 10:44 PM

I could find better guns for 1,300 then the five seven.

CurlyQ.Howard · July 3, 2013, 11:17 PM

I've been watching the availability of 5.7 ammo for the last half year, and unless I buy on the Internet, I cannot get any more than the 5 boxes I got in late December. Here's what I can find right now, and for me, it's too expensive to shoot (as much as I'd like to shoot one).

American Eagle 5.7x28mm 40 Gr. FMJ 50rds (AE5728A) 41 mins ago $0.80/rd [$39.99] [in stock] [LAX Ammo]
FNH-USA 5.7 x 28 mm SS197SR 40 Grain V-Max - a - 50 Rounds per Box 8 hours ago $0.80/rd [$39.97] [in stock] [Ammunition Depot]
500 Rounds Federal Fiocchi 5.7x28 40gr TMJ - Made in USA, AE5728A $0.75/rd [$375.00] [in stock] [Eagle Eye Guns]
5.7x28mm FNH SS197 V-Max 40 Grain 50 Round Box 2034 fps Blue Polymer Tipped Projectile $1.02/rd [$51.19] [in stock] [CheaperThanDirt]
FN 5.7 40 Grain Sporting Round (200 Rounds) $0.95/rd [$189.95] [in stock] [US Armorment]
5.7x28mm 27 Grain JHP Lead Free FNH SS195LF - 50 Rounds $1.80/rd [$89.99] [in stock] [Surplus Ammo]
Federal AE 5.7X28mm 40gr FMJ 50 rounds $0.98/rd [$48.99] [in stock] [Goose Island]

For example, I got my CZ75 earlier this year, and I've shot it thousands of times to date. Lately ball ammo has become available in the low twenty cent per round range. I believe that the lowest price that I've heard of for 5.7 the last six months is $0.44/round, but that's what I've heard - I haven't seen it. I have seen upper fifty cent range, but it was gone before I could have obtained any. Basically, available ammo for the 5.7 is roughly three times as expensive as 9mm, and for me that is too much.

CharlieDeltaJuliet · July 4, 2013, 12:54 PM

I want a PS90, but until ammo is more available I am choosing to not buy one. I would most likely buy a five-seven pistol too. I am a fan of he caliber. I will eithe wait until the pistol nd rifles prices return to more normal prices and ammo is abundant. I just do not want o end up with $2500 worth of firearms nd no ammo, or risk paying 2 or 3 times more for 5.7 ammo than I do calibers I already own.

Polinese · July 4, 2013, 02:59 PM

IMO it's not worth it, but I personally also don't see the point of the round without the AP capabilities it was designed for. Not that I'm out shooting long pig or anything but just kind of made it seem like a really expensive 22mag plinker...

SCDeac82 · July 4, 2013, 04:09 PM

Saw one in a store recently. Weird looking shells.

Dragline45 · July 4, 2013, 04:26 PM

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IMO it's not worth it, but I personally also don't see the point of the round without the AP capabilities it was designed for.

+1 to this. I just don't see the point of the gun without being able to use the armor piercing rounds.

rock185 · July 4, 2013, 05:08 PM

banger, you'll have to decide if it's worth it. During the frenzy,I believe some sold for a lot more. A comment or two on the gun itself. I had the use of one for several months, received NIB, for T&E purposes. I guess it is odd looking to many of us, but is an accurate, reliable, quality pistol. We didn't want to wait the approx. 90 days it would have taken for me to get the duty/AP ammo from a bonded Customs warehouse, so we did our testing with the available SS192 hollow point ammo. I chronographed the SS192 ammo through the pistol and it averaged 2025fps. The pistol has very little recoil and all who shot the pistol liked it. The pistol was still like new, and I could have bought it for a very reasonable price when we were done, and now wish I had...ymmv

HKGuns · July 4, 2013, 09:37 PM

Yes it is worth it.

It shoots great, is accurate and is a very controllable pistol. It also stay very very clean.

ScotchMan · July 4, 2013, 10:22 PM

FN is losing a lot of money by not doing two things (in this order). 1) Chambering the PS90 in 9mm, and 2) Chambering the 5.7 in 22mag.

I am convinced that a majority of the people buying the 5.7 are doing so because its in Call of Duty. I would never do something like that. I want a P90 because it was in Stargate SG-1

ShipWreck · July 5, 2013, 06:45 AM

Ps90 would never work in 9mm likely.. Not with the way the magazine works

tjhands · July 5, 2013, 09:54 AM

Ugh, that is the most objectionably uglyass handgun I think I've ever seen. A Hi-Point feels downright handsome and cocky in the FN's presence.

overkill0084 · July 5, 2013, 10:25 AM

IMHO, $1300 for a large, awkward looking, polymer pistol is a helluva lot of money.
A couple things to think about:
Would anyone pay that much for that same pistol in a more mundane caliber? If not, is the novelty (or added capability) of the caliber enough to offset the significant additional cost?
Now, add in the fun factor of the boutique ammo. Even before the big scare, that ammo wasn't exactly growing on trees.

HKGuns · July 5, 2013, 10:50 AM

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Ugh, that is the most objectionably uglyass handgun I think I've ever seen. A Hi-Point feels downright handsome and cocky in the FN's presence.

How ironic for a gLoCker to say that.......

CurlyQ.Howard · July 5, 2013, 12:03 PM

Well, any LEO can (at least in the very near past if not now) get a much lower price from https://shop.ombguns.com. Believe me, if I could afford one, I'd get it as my wife really wanted one too. We'd be using it for target practice 99.999% of the time. As for availability, Eagle Eye Guns has 500 rounds for $375.00 and they allowed me to place five (2,500 rounds) in my cart. No, I did not check out, but usually if there is a limit it is started up front or only the allotted amount will go into the buyer's cart. Also, Ammo Depot has a limit of five fifty round boxes at $0.80/round. Using gunbot.net, I can find 5.7 ammo daily. It's just that prices are expensive.

banger · July 5, 2013, 06:03 PM

Guys

Thanks for all the replies. Allow me to give an update.

I went to another LGS and they had one listed for $1200 and he knocked $50 off to $1150. I guess his Jedi Mind Trick skills were just too strong for me. I walked out with it.

Now it's time to play "let's find some ammo" game

Bluestarlizzard · July 5, 2013, 06:15 PM

I wish you luck on the ammo search.

It's one of the most fun pistols you'll ever shoot. I don't discount it as an SD pistol either. There is something to be said for almost no recoil, easy to concele and 20 round magizines.

It's almost as fun as it's big brother, the PS90.

LE-28 · July 5, 2013, 09:10 PM

Just something to keep in mind. They are banned in some indoor ranges for shooting clear through the shredded tire backstops and damaging the walls behind them.
Both of the two indoor ranges I shoot at in NC are rated for 458 Win Mag and there are no 5.7x28s allowed at either of them no matter what brand or ammo or even with reloads. We even shoot suppressed sub machine guns at both these indoor ranges but no 5.7s are allowed.
I know this "penetration" is something the 5.7 was designed for but If you can't shoot one because of bans, availability of ammo, or cost of ammo, what's the fun of having it.
Especially at that price.

Good luck with yours, I hope you love it, it does sound like fun but to impractical for me.

PSP · July 6, 2013, 07:18 AM

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Now it's time to play "let's find some ammo" game

By far, the cheapest way to buy this ammo, and most any other for that matter, is in bulk. The 5.7 is packed in 2000 round cases. It's a big hit up front, but 2000 rounds can last a while. I've seen the per box cost drop by $3-4 when bought in bulk.

I've never heard of the round banned indoors due to penetration, but I have heard backsplash as an excuse.

Have fun with your new FN. It's a great pistol.

hardhat harry · July 6, 2013, 07:27 AM

Here is your 5.7 ammo for sale: (as of 7:27am July 6)

http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/57x28/

whip1 · July 6, 2013, 07:54 AM

HKguns said:

Quote:

How ironic for a gLoCker to say that.......

I see your back to typing like a 15 year old girl.

Mystro · July 6, 2013, 09:15 AM

I love the idea and weight of the gun but I went another way with a PMR30.

HKGuns · July 6, 2013, 06:01 PM

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I see your back to typing like a 15 year old girl.

I never stopped, sorry if it hurts your feelings (not really). I am glad you found a way to add value to the thread. Your contribution just might have pushed the OP into the purchase.

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I went to another LGS and they had one listed for $1200 and he knocked $50 off to $1150. I guess his Jedi Mind Trick skills were just too strong for me. I walked out with it.

Congratulations OP, find your ammo and go shoot it. I predict you will really like it as it is a good shooter.

July 3, 2013, 08:22 PM	#1
banger Member Join Date: December 31, 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 21	FN Five Seven - Worth the price I've been thinking about one for my next purchase. I'm told they are ridiculous accurate. I found one at a local gun shop for $1300.00. (Ouch) Are they really worth it ?

July 3, 2013, 08:27 PM	#2
45_auto Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2011 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 1,399	FN Five Seven - Worth the price Not to me.

July 3, 2013, 10:44 PM	#4
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	I could find better guns for 1,300 then the five seven. __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

July 3, 2013, 11:17 PM	#5
CurlyQ.Howard Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2012 Posts: 280	I've been watching the availability of 5.7 ammo for the last half year, and unless I buy on the Internet, I cannot get any more than the 5 boxes I got in late December. Here's what I can find right now, and for me, it's too expensive to shoot (as much as I'd like to shoot one). American Eagle 5.7x28mm 40 Gr. FMJ 50rds (AE5728A) 41 mins ago $0.80/rd [$39.99] [in stock] [LAX Ammo] FNH-USA 5.7 x 28 mm SS197SR 40 Grain V-Max - a - 50 Rounds per Box 8 hours ago $0.80/rd [$39.97] [in stock] [Ammunition Depot] 500 Rounds Federal Fiocchi 5.7x28 40gr TMJ - Made in USA, AE5728A $0.75/rd [$375.00] [in stock] [Eagle Eye Guns] 5.7x28mm FNH SS197 V-Max 40 Grain 50 Round Box 2034 fps Blue Polymer Tipped Projectile $1.02/rd [$51.19] [in stock] [CheaperThanDirt] FN 5.7 40 Grain Sporting Round (200 Rounds) $0.95/rd [$189.95] [in stock] [US Armorment] 5.7x28mm 27 Grain JHP Lead Free FNH SS195LF - 50 Rounds $1.80/rd [$89.99] [in stock] [Surplus Ammo] Federal AE 5.7X28mm 40gr FMJ 50 rounds $0.98/rd [$48.99] [in stock] [Goose Island] For example, I got my CZ75 earlier this year, and I've shot it thousands of times to date. Lately ball ammo has become available in the low twenty cent per round range. I believe that the lowest price that I've heard of for 5.7 the last six months is $0.44/round, but that's what I've heard - I haven't seen it. I have seen upper fifty cent range, but it was gone before I could have obtained any. Basically, available ammo for the 5.7 is roughly three times as expensive as 9mm, and for me that is too much. Last edited by CurlyQ.Howard; July 3, 2013 at 11:25 PM.

July 4, 2013, 12:54 PM	#6
CharlieDeltaJuliet Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2012 Posts: 755	I want a PS90, but until ammo is more available I am choosing to not buy one. I would most likely buy a five-seven pistol too. I am a fan of he caliber. I will eithe wait until the pistol nd rifles prices return to more normal prices and ammo is abundant. I just do not want o end up with $2500 worth of firearms nd no ammo, or risk paying 2 or 3 times more for 5.7 ammo than I do calibers I already own. __________________ " The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government...." - Thomas Jefferson

July 3, 2013, 09:15 PM	#3
PSP Senior Member Join Date: June 2, 2006 Location: Bowling Green Virginia Posts: 4,487	I have one I bought on the used market for a good price. It's a very high quality pistol with some unique and useful qualities. I wouldn't pay $1300 for one but at a decent price the 5.7 is a worthwhile pistol to own. Good gun, but I'd wait for a better deal.

July 4, 2013, 02:59 PM	#7
Polinese Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2010 Posts: 946	IMO it's not worth it, but I personally also don't see the point of the round without the AP capabilities it was designed for. Not that I'm out shooting long pig or anything but just kind of made it seem like a really expensive 22mag plinker...

July 4, 2013, 04:09 PM	#8
SCDeac82 Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2010 Location: Southeast-USA Posts: 222	Saw one in a store recently. Weird looking shells. __________________ "No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

July 4, 2013, 05:08 PM	#10
rock185 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: Out West in Rim Country Posts: 1,091	banger, you'll have to decide if it's worth it. During the frenzy,I believe some sold for a lot more. A comment or two on the gun itself. I had the use of one for several months, received NIB, for T&E purposes. I guess it is odd looking to many of us, but is an accurate, reliable, quality pistol. We didn't want to wait the approx. 90 days it would have taken for me to get the duty/AP ammo from a bonded Customs warehouse, so we did our testing with the available SS192 hollow point ammo. I chronographed the SS192 ammo through the pistol and it averaged 2025fps. The pistol has very little recoil and all who shot the pistol liked it. The pistol was still like new, and I could have bought it for a very reasonable price when we were done, and now wish I had...ymmv __________________ COTEP 640, NRA Life

July 4, 2013, 09:37 PM	#11
HKGuns Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2005 Location: Bora Bora Posts: 932	Yes it is worth it. It shoots great, is accurate and is a very controllable pistol. It also stay very very clean.

July 4, 2013, 10:22 PM	#12
ScotchMan Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2011 Posts: 1,368	FN is losing a lot of money by not doing two things (in this order). 1) Chambering the PS90 in 9mm, and 2) Chambering the 5.7 in 22mag. I am convinced that a majority of the people buying the 5.7 are doing so because its in Call of Duty. I would never do something like that. I want a P90 because it was in Stargate SG-1 __________________ Everyday Loadout NRA Instructor NRA Member

July 5, 2013, 06:45 AM	#13
ShipWreck Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,744	Ps90 would never work in 9mm likely.. Not with the way the magazine works

July 5, 2013, 09:54 AM	#14
tjhands Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2005 Posts: 1,718	Ugh, that is the most objectionably uglyass handgun I think I've ever seen. A Hi-Point feels downright handsome and cocky in the FN's presence. __________________ "If the sole purpose of handguns is to kill people, then mine are all defective." - Uncle Ted Nugent

July 5, 2013, 10:25 AM	#15
overkill0084 Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2010 Location: Northern, UT Posts: 1,162	IMHO, $1300 for a large, awkward looking, polymer pistol is a helluva lot of money. A couple things to think about: Would anyone pay that much for that same pistol in a more mundane caliber? If not, is the novelty (or added capability) of the caliber enough to offset the significant additional cost? Now, add in the fun factor of the boutique ammo. Even before the big scare, that ammo wasn't exactly growing on trees. __________________ Cheers, Greg “At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child – miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats.” — P.J. O’Rourke

July 5, 2013, 12:03 PM	#17
CurlyQ.Howard Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2012 Posts: 280	Well, any LEO can (at least in the very near past if not now) get a much lower price from https://shop.ombguns.com. Believe me, if I could afford one, I'd get it as my wife really wanted one too. We'd be using it for target practice 99.999% of the time. As for availability, Eagle Eye Guns has 500 rounds for $375.00 and they allowed me to place five (2,500 rounds) in my cart. No, I did not check out, but usually if there is a limit it is started up front or only the allotted amount will go into the buyer's cart. Also, Ammo Depot has a limit of five fifty round boxes at $0.80/round. Using gunbot.net, I can find 5.7 ammo daily. It's just that prices are expensive. Last edited by CurlyQ.Howard; July 5, 2013 at 12:11 PM.

July 5, 2013, 06:03 PM	#18
banger Member Join Date: December 31, 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 21	Couldn't help it Guys Thanks for all the replies. Allow me to give an update. I went to another LGS and they had one listed for $1200 and he knocked $50 off to $1150. I guess his Jedi Mind Trick skills were just too strong for me. I walked out with it. Now it's time to play "let's find some ammo" game

July 5, 2013, 06:15 PM	#19
Bluestarlizzard Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 347	I wish you luck on the ammo search. It's one of the most fun pistols you'll ever shoot. I don't discount it as an SD pistol either. There is something to be said for almost no recoil, easy to concele and 20 round magizines. It's almost as fun as it's big brother, the PS90. __________________ Mal: "If anyone gets nosy, just...you know... shoot 'em. " Zoe: "Shoot 'em?" Mal: "Politely."

July 5, 2013, 09:10 PM	#20
LE-28 Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 759	Just something to keep in mind. They are banned in some indoor ranges for shooting clear through the shredded tire backstops and damaging the walls behind them. Both of the two indoor ranges I shoot at in NC are rated for 458 Win Mag and there are no 5.7x28s allowed at either of them no matter what brand or ammo or even with reloads. We even shoot suppressed sub machine guns at both these indoor ranges but no 5.7s are allowed. I know this "penetration" is something the 5.7 was designed for but If you can't shoot one because of bans, availability of ammo, or cost of ammo, what's the fun of having it. Especially at that price. Good luck with yours, I hope you love it, it does sound like fun but to impractical for me.

July 6, 2013, 07:27 AM	#22
hardhat harry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2010 Location: I've moved... Posts: 233	Here is your 5.7 ammo for sale: (as of 7:27am July 6) http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/57x28/ __________________ "Let me live in my house by the side of the road and be a friend to man."

July 6, 2013, 09:15 AM	#24
Mystro Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Central Pa. Posts: 1,528	I love the idea and weight of the gun but I went another way with a PMR30. __________________ "I'm a good guy with a gun" What do I care if I give up some freedom or rights?....The Goverment will take care of me. This kind of thinking is now in the majority and it should concern you. "Ask not what you can do for your country, but what free entitlements you can bleed from your country"

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