Speer # 14 manual ?

06shooter · January 24, 2015, 10:00 AM

I've been trying to see if this book has loads for Hot Cor 3006.
I've only been seeing deep curl !
If so I might buy this one to !

**Unclenick** · January 24, 2015, 10:22 AM

Yes, most of them. The ones it has are Speer numbers 1855, 2007, 2017, 2023, 2025, 2035, 2047, 2053 and 2211.

Missing are numbers 2011 and 2041.

The list is here.

buck460XVR · January 24, 2015, 10:27 AM

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I've only been seeing deep curl !

If you are going to their website to find recipes that's all you will find. They only give those recipes for new bullets not listed in their latest published manual. The #14 does have all of the HotCor info. You may have luck going to the website of the manufacturer of the powder you wish to use. If you are new to reloading then by all means buy at least one reliable manual that has lists the components you want to use.

06shooter · January 24, 2015, 10:50 AM

Thanks guys , I see that hot cor has more positive reviews than anything I've seen so far, as far as group and knock down.

stagpanther · January 24, 2015, 01:31 PM

I have the manual--if you can be a little more specific I may be able to help.

06shooter · January 24, 2015, 02:20 PM

I just bought the manual and I've been reading it and no mention of deep curl , but definitely hot cor.
Their tests are with a 22" barrel , my barrel is a 24"
How much more velocity with 24" @ starting load ? 3006 165 gr btsp with 46.5
Muz.vel. 2410 fps ?
At 200 yards with this velocity they are showing 1700 + ft lbs

Nick_C_S · January 24, 2015, 11:06 PM

Side note: I think it's about time Speer comes out with a #15.

#14 seems to be getting a bit stale. Speaking on just the handgun side, a number of new powders are missing; and conversely, all a number of discontinued powders are present.

Snyper · January 24, 2015, 11:10 PM

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I see that hot cor has more positive reviews than anything I've seen so far, as far as group and knock down.

Take those with a big grain of salt.

Some will kill one animal then write a good review.

I don't doubt they are good bullets, since there really are no "bad" bullets made as long as you use common sense when choosing the one you want

The best bullet is the one that's most accurate in your gun, no matter what others say about it

buck460XVR · January 25, 2015, 02:12 PM

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I just bought the manual and I've been reading it and no mention of deep curl , but definitely hot cor.

Again....that's because the manual was published before they introduced the "Deep Curls" in rifle, and again, why they give the loads for rifle "Deep Curls" on their website. Common with most bullet manufacturers. When they publish a newer manual the recipes on the website will disappear. I suggest you download and copy those recipes for the Deep Curls if you intend to reload with them to avoid having to buy the newer manual in the future. The Handgun hunting "Deep Curls" while not listed in the Speer #14 are not new, just named differently. They are the old "Gold Dot" hunting bullets and were renamed "Deep Curls" to avoid confusion with the SD/HD "Gold Dot" handgun bullets, which while being of the same basic construction are meant to expand more violently. Different name, but same production numbers and use the same recipes.

**Unclenick** · January 25, 2015, 02:27 PM

3006 Shooter,

The velocity difference per inch of additional barrel varies with bore length and varies with the powder. It's more if the barrel is short or using a slow powder that has a high muzzle pressure and vice-versa. But with 30-06 for the 22-24 inch range, the difference is typically going to be around 28 ft/s more for each additional inch of barrel, so the 24" tube will be a total of about 56 ft/s faster than a 22 inch barrel, assuming identical chamber dimensions and load compoenents.

06shooter · January 25, 2015, 04:04 PM

Thanks for the reply , so loading to their data that's with a 22" barrel will be fine to Work up to their max velocities with my 24 " barrel ?

January 24, 2015, 10:22 AM	#2
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,061	Yes, most of them. The ones it has are Speer numbers 1855, 2007, 2017, 2023, 2025, 2035, 2047, 2053 and 2211. Missing are numbers 2011 and 2041. The list is here. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

January 24, 2015, 02:20 PM	#6
06shooter Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2015 Posts: 165	I just bought the manual and I've been reading it and no mention of deep curl , but definitely hot cor. Their tests are with a 22" barrel , my barrel is a 24" How much more velocity with 24" @ starting load ? 3006 165 gr btsp with 46.5 Muz.vel. 2410 fps ? At 200 yards with this velocity they are showing 1700 + ft lbs Last edited by 06shooter; January 24, 2015 at 02:25 PM.

January 24, 2015, 11:06 PM	#7
Nick_C_S Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2013 Location: Idaho Posts: 5,522	Speer #15 Side note: I think it's about time Speer comes out with a #15. #14 seems to be getting a bit stale. Speaking on just the handgun side, a number of new powders are missing; and conversely, all a number of discontinued powders are present. __________________ Gun control laws benefit only criminals and politicians - but then, I repeat myself. Life Member, National Rifle Association

January 25, 2015, 02:27 PM	#10
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,061	3006 Shooter, The velocity difference per inch of additional barrel varies with bore length and varies with the powder. It's more if the barrel is short or using a slow powder that has a high muzzle pressure and vice-versa. But with 30-06 for the 22-24 inch range, the difference is typically going to be around 28 ft/s more for each additional inch of barrel, so the 24" tube will be a total of about 56 ft/s faster than a 22 inch barrel, assuming identical chamber dimensions and load compoenents. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

January 24, 2015, 10:00 AM	#1
06shooter Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2015 Posts: 165	Speer # 14 manual ? I've been trying to see if this book has loads for Hot Cor 3006. I've only been seeing deep curl ! If so I might buy this one to !

January 24, 2015, 10:50 AM	#4
06shooter Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2015 Posts: 165	Thanks guys , I see that hot cor has more positive reviews than anything I've seen so far, as far as group and knock down.

January 24, 2015, 01:31 PM	#5
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,773	I have the manual--if you can be a little more specific I may be able to help.

January 25, 2015, 04:04 PM	#11
06shooter Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2015 Posts: 165	Thanks for the reply , so loading to their data that's with a 22" barrel will be fine to Work up to their max velocities with my 24 " barrel ?