POLICE THWART ROBBERY victim speaks out

threegun · May 15, 2007, 04:59 AM

Tampa Police Dept. thwart a robbery attempt. Below is a link to the article.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/p...Y&pageId=1.1.1

The victim was interviewed on a talk radio news show and his description of the event was most chilling. He was walking through a parking lot full of cars but void of people early Sunday morning when he noticed 3 males on bikes approaching him. He quickly change direction to avoid contact with them and they change as well to remain on an intercept course. The victim looked back to see the lead male pull his shirt over his head to cover his face. Now surrounded the victim is ordered to the ground at gunpoint. The victim removes his wallet and tosses it in the direction of the lead bad guy as he announces "here's my wallet". The lead bad guy steps over the wallet and walks up to the victim and points his pistol at the victims head. Police intervene and shoot bad guy. The victim said that the bad guy's eyes indicated that he was going to kill him. He said there was no doubt that he was going to die.

What would you do? For me once the guy pulls his shirt over his head to hide his face he's going to be at gunpoint. If any of them reach in their pocket or waist area its on. Call police ASAP.

Slugthrower · May 15, 2007, 06:29 AM

Looks like disparity of force. If I was armed at the time they get shot. 3 or more assailant's is considered a mob in VA. If I had no gun at the time, I always have a knife. Running isn't an option as they were on bicycles. The only choice would be attack and swiftly. The person that is covering his face gets it first as he is likely the ring leader. We all know the fight or flight response. Being wired as I am, I would fight and only flee if I must. Granted, I am trained and experienced in fist fighting and a several martial arts weapons. If I wasn't skilled and an aggressive man, I would run hopefully not getting caught. Just as a dog will chase a runner, these predatory types will give chase and they are emboldened when people run as they think that they have the advantage.

Always be vigilant. SA is always at the top of the list.

I hope and pray that no one has to face situations like that ever in their lives.

Austin HiPowers · May 20, 2007, 09:06 AM

Nice job of those officers. Right in time on the right place.

KingofAttendance · May 20, 2007, 09:20 AM

"The victim said that the bad guy's eyes indicated that he was going to kill him."

Sure lol.

armedandsafe · May 20, 2007, 10:24 AM

You have never attended one of those meetings, have you, KofA?

Pops

KingofAttendance · May 20, 2007, 11:03 AM

I guess I haven't.

Edward429451 · May 20, 2007, 11:34 AM

The eyes are the window to the soul. You can see a lot in someones eyes. It is not infallible though so do pay attention to his body movements also.

Only 30 some percent of communication is through the spoken word, pay attention!

SundownRider · May 22, 2007, 08:06 AM

A parking lot full of cars?

Duck and run, zig zag between cars, climb over them, whatever. They're on bikes and if they keep to them, they are limited in their mobility, not to mention being able to draw and fire accurately with a weapon on a moving platform.

This guy did enough things wrong to get himself killed, luckily the police ended the threat. Hopefully he learned something.

vox rationis · May 22, 2007, 02:47 PM

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A parking lot full of cars?

Duck and run, zig zag between cars, climb over them, whatever. They're on bikes and if they keep to them, they are limited in their mobility, not to mention being able to draw and fire accurately with a weapon on a moving platform.

This guy did enough things wrong to get himself killed, luckily the police ended the threat. Hopefully he learned something.

You know it does seem like people do fall prey to the "being civil/not making waves/wanting to please/I don't wanna make a fus" bug at some inappropriate times. In this case I wonder if the bad guys called out to him, and he just sort of stayed put not wanting to cause a fuss by running (and zigging and zagging) and screaming FIRE FIRE FIRE at the top of his lungs, or something, while the bad guys were approaching. I think people feel self conscious and might not want to react in an inappropriate way, but in some cases you just have to assess the threat and go man go, and if you look like a fool afterwards, oh well so what..just as long you don't turn into chicken little

May 15, 2007, 04:59 AM	#1
threegun Junior member Join Date: March 1, 2006 Location: Tampa,Fl Posts: 4,000	POLICE THWART ROBBERY victim speaks out Tampa Police Dept. thwart a robbery attempt. Below is a link to the article. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/p...Y&pageId=1.1.1 The victim was interviewed on a talk radio news show and his description of the event was most chilling. He was walking through a parking lot full of cars but void of people early Sunday morning when he noticed 3 males on bikes approaching him. He quickly change direction to avoid contact with them and they change as well to remain on an intercept course. The victim looked back to see the lead male pull his shirt over his head to cover his face. Now surrounded the victim is ordered to the ground at gunpoint. The victim removes his wallet and tosses it in the direction of the lead bad guy as he announces "here's my wallet". The lead bad guy steps over the wallet and walks up to the victim and points his pistol at the victims head. Police intervene and shoot bad guy. The victim said that the bad guy's eyes indicated that he was going to kill him. He said there was no doubt that he was going to die. What would you do? For me once the guy pulls his shirt over his head to hide his face he's going to be at gunpoint. If any of them reach in their pocket or waist area its on. Call police ASAP.

May 15, 2007, 06:29 AM	#2
Slugthrower Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2006 Posts: 823	Looks like disparity of force. If I was armed at the time they get shot. 3 or more assailant's is considered a mob in VA. If I had no gun at the time, I always have a knife. Running isn't an option as they were on bicycles. The only choice would be attack and swiftly. The person that is covering his face gets it first as he is likely the ring leader. We all know the fight or flight response. Being wired as I am, I would fight and only flee if I must. Granted, I am trained and experienced in fist fighting and a several martial arts weapons. If I wasn't skilled and an aggressive man, I would run hopefully not getting caught. Just as a dog will chase a runner, these predatory types will give chase and they are emboldened when people run as they think that they have the advantage. Always be vigilant. SA is always at the top of the list. I hope and pray that no one has to face situations like that ever in their lives. __________________ History is a freak show and a dark comedy. Mankind is a spectacle all to itself. Play your role, let the jesters play theirs. In the end...who has the last laugh?

May 20, 2007, 10:24 AM	#5
armedandsafe Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2005 Location: Moses Lake WA Posts: 1,001	You have never attended one of those meetings, have you, KofA? Pops __________________ Armed and Safe: Not just a theory If it time to bury them, it is time to dig them up. Remember, "Behind every blade of grass."

May 22, 2007, 08:06 AM	#8
SundownRider Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 509	A parking lot full of cars? Duck and run, zig zag between cars, climb over them, whatever. They're on bikes and if they keep to them, they are limited in their mobility, not to mention being able to draw and fire accurately with a weapon on a moving platform. This guy did enough things wrong to get himself killed, luckily the police ended the threat. Hopefully he learned something. __________________ " Of every One-Hundred men, Ten shouldn't even be there, Eighty are nothing but targets, Nine are real fighters... We are lucky to have them...They make the battle. Ah, but the One, One of them is a Warrior... and He will bring the others back." - Heraclitus (circa 500 BC)

May 20, 2007, 09:06 AM	#3
Austin HiPowers Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2006 Location: Little South of Miami Posts: 147	Nice job of those officers. Right in time on the right place.

May 20, 2007, 09:20 AM	#4
KingofAttendance Registration in progress Join Date: September 4, 2006 Posts: 100	"The victim said that the bad guy's eyes indicated that he was going to kill him." Sure lol.

May 20, 2007, 11:03 AM	#6
KingofAttendance Registration in progress Join Date: September 4, 2006 Posts: 100	I guess I haven't.

May 20, 2007, 11:34 AM	#7
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	The eyes are the window to the soul. You can see a lot in someones eyes. It is not infallible though so do pay attention to his body movements also. Only 30 some percent of communication is through the spoken word, pay attention!