February 6, 2009, 12:47 PM | #26 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 30, 2007
Location: Great State of Texas
Posts: 106
|
best bang for the buck for me is the G19 or Beretta PX4. Have both, but remember that holsters and accessories are going to be much more readily available. That makes the G19 a much more justifiable purchase.
|
February 6, 2009, 08:27 PM | #27 |
Member
Join Date: April 14, 2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 61
|
go to a local range and shoot the rentals to decide what feels best and what shoots best at 7,15 and 25 yds. Then go out and make a intelligent purchase based on the results.
__________________
http://home.roadrunner.com/~cuttingedgz/ 22/45 Ruger S&W 640 Glock 21SF,S&W 67 Combat,Colt series 80 Combat,Glock 19 |
February 6, 2009, 08:42 PM | #28 |
Junior member
Join Date: June 16, 2004
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,320
|
S&W 3rd generation semi autos (5906, 5904, 6906, etc) are great guns, and the Beretta 92 is another. The Stoeger Cougar is the same gun as the Beretta Cougar with a lower price tag. They can be had new for less the $400. SLightly shorter barrel then 4 inches, though.
|
February 6, 2009, 09:01 PM | #29 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 19, 2005
Location: S.E. Michigan
Posts: 219
|
In an all-metal pistol? New? Probably something from CZ. Great shooters, those. If you don't mind a polymer frame in a pistol that, from all accounts, behaves a lot like an all-metal Sig: The new FN FNP series looks to be a darn good bargain. (If they had a 9mm long-slide version, I might well be tempted by that one. I might anyway.)
I've always been a fan of Ruger wheel-guns, but never been attracted to any of their auto-loaders, for some reason. Well, except for the Mk. I/II/III .22s. Have one of those. |
February 6, 2009, 09:09 PM | #30 |
Member
Join Date: October 28, 2007
Posts: 46
|
Ditto on the Sigma or the Steyr. Both of these guns are equal to their competition but due to lousy marketing their prices are wayyyy below their value. The Steyr newer version has better ergos....if you like finger grips and the trapesoid sights can be easily changed if they are not your favorite. Steyr's should be available for about 300 to 350 for the old model and about 350 to 400 for the newer model.
The Sigma. This gun may not look as sexy as some others but I shot my first and only 10 shot one hole group with my friends Sigma that he paid 225 for. So as far as "bang for the buck these two have got to be on your short list. Keep in mind the accessory selection will be lower as wel as holster selection. |
February 7, 2009, 12:24 AM | #31 |
Member
Join Date: November 29, 2002
Location: Greenbow, Alabama
Posts: 82
|
+1 used Glock 19
|
February 7, 2009, 12:37 AM | #32 |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 5, 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,721
|
Did those of yall that are suggesting: Glock, XD, M&P, Sigma and other other polymer frame handgun's not read in the OP where he wanted steel?
|
February 7, 2009, 07:26 AM | #33 |
Member
Join Date: February 2, 2009
Posts: 74
|
^^^^^^^^ I dont think they saw that part. ^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
February 7, 2009, 07:54 AM | #34 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 16, 2008
Posts: 1,692
|
steel baby eagle
__________________
No Gun Big Or Small Does It All |
February 7, 2009, 11:41 AM | #35 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 24, 2008
Posts: 114
|
Find a used Sig CPO ( used) factory reconditioned 226 228 229 220 thats all you need to know, and learn to shoot the new to you sig. good Luck!
|
February 7, 2009, 04:37 PM | #36 |
Member
Join Date: January 27, 2009
Location: iowa
Posts: 45
|
i believe the barrel is a fuzz longer than your specs, but the sr9 is a good gun.
|
February 7, 2009, 05:26 PM | #37 |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 3, 2009
Location: Nashvegas, TN
Posts: 228
|
$450 is a tight range. IF you can buy used with confidence, it will add to your range.
However, if not - things to look at - At that range do not expect the sun, moon, and stars. Expect a gun that works and is reliable, but not well known or approved by gun snobs. Bersa is a good option, as the 9 version of their thunder series is their most reliable, and a good value, bang for the buck (Should be under $400, new models come with picatinny one slot rail for light/laser, round in chamber indicator, polygonal rifling, and two magazines. Sorry, not a steel frame) In that price range the Stoeger Cougar is another choice. http://www.stoegerindustries.com/fir...ger_cougar.php Generally you should be able to find it for around $450, but the present push to buy may have increased their cost. It is a Beretta design (predecessor to the PX4 storm.) Sorry, not a steel frame. Steel frame is hard to find at the price range you want. Used would be your best bet. New might be the Taurus 1911B9 (Steel framed 9mm 1911 style) but they may be a touch over your price range, and are 9+1 capacity... My opinion of the Taurus are changing from neutral towards recommending, as they are selling well with little issue. They have had issues with customer service.
__________________
Μολὼν λάβε Last edited by HvyMtl; February 7, 2009 at 05:37 PM. Reason: adding info... |
February 7, 2009, 05:55 PM | #38 | |
Junior member
Join Date: June 3, 2007
Posts: 1,032
|
Quote:
|
|
February 7, 2009, 06:23 PM | #39 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 3, 2008
Posts: 3,057
|
I forgot Glock fans are too busy chugging koolaid that they don't have time to read the post. Personally I would go with the CZ 75 but I hear great things about Ruger too. Another one I would consider would be a Beretta/Stoegar Cougar.
|
February 7, 2009, 06:35 PM | #40 |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 14, 2008
Location: Southern MI
Posts: 250
|
CZ75 is widely considered to have one of the best "Gun to Money" ratios. It's what I ended up purchasing for myself. Going to be tough finding one new for $450 out the door though. $500 is a closer estimate for actual cost after tax around my neck of the woods, but they had quite a few options available according to taste in that range.
|
February 7, 2009, 08:57 PM | #41 |
Member
Join Date: June 4, 2005
Posts: 45
|
S&W
I'd look at S&W 3rd gen guns. They can be had for a reasonable price, they work, and problems can be fixed by most competent, local gunsmiths. Summit gun brokers usually have some in stock. I purchased a 6906 from them and I'm very satisfied with the gun and their service.
|
February 8, 2009, 09:12 AM | #42 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 27, 2008
Location: Dallas,Tx
Posts: 103
|
take a look at the Taurus 917cs. i own one and love it. 9mm 19+1 & 17+1 mags 32oz. 4" barrel nice trigger! i paid $430 total w/taxes. very accurate.
has a decocker to safely lower the hammer.
__________________
USCCA & NRA Member |
February 8, 2009, 11:18 AM | #43 |
Member
Join Date: February 8, 2009
Posts: 21
|
I'm a huge fan of the Taurus PT92, but there really isnt a better made pistol on the market than Ruger, so either is a good choice in my opinion.
If you like GLOCK, im sure you can get one of those also, of course a very well built gun as well. I personally like the feel of metal. Both the Ruger and the PT92 have that in spades. |
March 3, 2009, 07:22 PM | #44 |
Member
Join Date: May 21, 2008
Posts: 71
|
Ruger P series. But will take some looking.
|
March 3, 2009, 07:36 PM | #45 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 27, 2004
Posts: 2,745
|
I'd check out a Glock 17 and a Smith & Wesson M&P9 full size - both great guns. Also with a lot of fans, but I haven't tried them would be CZ pistols.
__________________
“Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think.” Niels Bohr |
March 3, 2009, 07:37 PM | #46 |
Junior member
Join Date: January 3, 2006
Location: Indpls
Posts: 1,159
|
here's my answer: the best gun for MY money may not be the best for your's. I'm a firm believer of "you get what you pay for" (ok guys, start the flaming) so.......get a Walther P99 (9mm or .40, you can't go wrong).
|
March 3, 2009, 07:40 PM | #47 |
Junior member
Join Date: February 26, 2009
Posts: 42
|
$450? Used Glock 19...
|
March 3, 2009, 07:42 PM | #48 |
Junior Member
Join Date: February 26, 2009
Location: temple tx.
Posts: 12
|
www.summitgunbroker.com has whole sale prices , glock 22 with night sights 349.00 and so on.
|
March 3, 2009, 07:45 PM | #49 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 19, 2006
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 625
|
Used SKS ...
__________________
Conservative Party U.S.A. |
March 3, 2009, 08:00 PM | #50 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 27, 2004
Posts: 2,745
|
Almost forgot this guy - instead of just tupperware guns, take a look at the Stoeger Cougar. This IS the gun formerly sold as the Beretta Cougar. Beretta sold all their production machinery for the Cougar to this Turkish firm Stoeger Industries, just as they introduced the Cougar's successor, the PX4.
Stoger sells the gun for something like 40% less than Beretta did, so it's a real bargain. Beretta is a class act. http://www.stoegerindustries.com/fir...ger_cougar.php
__________________
“Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think.” Niels Bohr |
|
|