Thinking about getting an M&P 9

Tactical Jackalope · February 25, 2013, 11:21 AM

Anyone have anything to say about them? I've heard the good and the bad. I am not up to date on what's what anymore.

So this will mainly be a CCW gun. (Yes I carry full size, always have

)

Need more capacity than what I've been carrying.

Now here's my thing, times are tough. I can't outright buy it right now. I went from 20 guns to about 14 now. I don't want to sell anymore. I want a main carry again, my PPQ and Glock gen 4 19 went bye bye and I want more capacity than 8+1 with the P220.

So here's what I can do.

Trade something(s) I have for an M&P 9.

I have two Glocks on the chopping block. But I'm not sure...

What would you guys do?

Water-Man · February 25, 2013, 11:29 AM

Has the accuracy problem with the M&P 9mm been corrected?

I'd check on that before buying.

Tactical Jackalope · February 25, 2013, 11:30 AM

Oh man...didn't hear about that one. Heard about the trigger issues. Those have been fixed apparently.

Accuracy? Let me Google that.

EDIT: Well that sucks....

Horses on the forum, open your mouths. Say it isn't so.

Uncle Malice · February 25, 2013, 11:33 AM

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Has the accuracy problem with the M&P 9mm been corrected?

LOL? No accuracy problems with the M&P.

Constantine, I think you know my opinions on the M&P. I'd recommend opting for the Pro - especially if you're going to carry it. The factory night sights are nice, and the trigger is better - just run through that little trigger bar polish that I posted last night and you'll be good to go. I'm really liking mine.

Tactical Jackalope · February 25, 2013, 11:36 AM

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Constantine, I think you know my opinions on the M&P. I'd recommend opting for the Pro - especially if you're going to carry it. The factory night sights are nice, and the trigger is better - just run through that little trigger bar polish that I posted last night and you'll be good to go. I'm really liking mine.

This is good. I like my Uncle Malice.

So yours has been good? I'm thinking about getting the pro. It has a 5' barrel right? Comes with night sights..That's my kind of deal. I might stop by the shop this weekend to see what they have and bring over my collateral trades just in case.

It's dangerous when I go into shops though. God knows what I can end up leaving with.

Uncle Malice · February 25, 2013, 11:39 AM

They make the pro with a 5" barrel, but I got the standard 4.25" model. The balance is perfect.

I'm actually hitting the range today. I'll try to snap a pic of a target or two - unless I'm just really off my game!

MK11 · February 25, 2013, 11:41 AM

The accuracy issues are real, although somewhat overblown.

Some people say it's only the 5-inch Pro models that are affected, others say it's any full-size 9. Doesn't happen with all, but enough to be a consideration. Doesn't really raise it's head until you shoot at distance--25 yards and out.

Mine (circa 2010) is a pretty good shooter at 25 yards--with heavier bullets. 15 yards and in, it's good with everything.

Tactical Jackalope · February 25, 2013, 11:47 AM

Malice, nice pics! Nicer guns! lol..Love it..Didn't know they had an M&P 9 Pro Series in 4.25 I like it. I really want it to come with night sights. I don't like a CCW / Nightstand gun without them. I'm used to that.

Snap a few pics, that'll be awesome. If you're off on your game let me know O_O

I love the low bore axis on that M&P

My search for the best CCW gun hasn't stopped -___- it's been years and years already.

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The accuracy issues are real, although somewhat overblown.

Some people say it's only the 5-inch Pro models that are affected, others say it's any full-size 9. Doesn't happen with all, but enough to be a consideration. Doesn't really raise it's head until you shoot at distance--25 yards and out.

Guess I'll have to use S&W's CS then

lol

If it's over blown, it might be hype or for a reason.

Last time I ignored that..I ended up with a gun that loved ejecting brass to my face no matter what new and true parts were in it.

So I'm a little more weary now.

I just called the LGS. They don't have it

Water-Man · February 25, 2013, 11:49 AM

More of a problem with 115gr & 124gr.. 147gr worked better.

UncleMalice, you are wrong regarding the accuracy problems.

Tactical Jackalope · February 25, 2013, 11:50 AM

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More of a problem with 115gr & 124gr.. 147gr worked better.

I don't like 9mm bullets in 147gr

So if there's a big issue with 115gr and 124gr, that's going to affect me.

Can people post links or something?

Uncle Malice · February 25, 2013, 11:51 AM

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UncleMalice, you are wrong regarding the accuracy problems.

Perhaps... but my M&P 9c, 40c, 9, 40, 45, 9 Pro, and 9 Shield have all been stellar.

and I shoot about 90% 115gr... 124 for carry though.

TheGoldenState · February 25, 2013, 11:51 AM

M&P is my favorite poly.

I have the .40, never a single failure of any kind.

I JUST got the 9mm. Takedown lever won't stay down w/o constant pressure. AND it's keyholing…3-4 out of 10-12 shots…...i'll be sending it back to S&W today with a told return time of 3-6 weeks. Still no failure to fire/eject/etc. though which is great.

Water-Man · February 25, 2013, 11:57 AM

Constantine,

Go to 10-8 Performance and look at the M&P articles.

TBT · February 25, 2013, 01:17 PM

The accuracy issues are real but they aren't as bad as some make them out to be. Last I heard Apex pinned the problem to the barrel/slide lockup and they were working on a fix. My M&P9... I don't notice it. But the issues are mainly past 25 yards and I can't remember when I last shot farther out than that.

Someone might confirm or deny this but last I heard S&W was not doing anything about the accuracy issues via warranty because it was in spec? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong there but I recall reading that over at M4carbine.

The M&P is a fantastic choice if you are looking at Polymer.

Uncle Malice · February 25, 2013, 01:56 PM

Constantine, Here's a target from my lunch trip to the range. This one is 15 rounds at 30 feet/10 yards.

I was shooting in groups of 5 and then reloading. I only had one box with me so I didn't want to burn through it super fast.

115gr USA Ammo reloads.

The silhouette target in the back was left by the previous guy. He was shooting 12g slugs... I just left it up and taped my targets to it. Those are 1" rings. Pulled a couple of them, but wasn't too bad.

Uncle Malice · February 25, 2013, 02:06 PM

This was another target. Just a 5 shot group.

Scarletma · February 25, 2013, 06:08 PM

Constantine, I am in Miami and have the MP9C, the pro and the Julie Galowski it is also a 5".
I have only seen the Pro 9mm in 5" and that is what I have. Out of the box mine is and was fantastic and have zero issues of any kind. All my family members shoot better with the Pro 5", no comparison.
The 9c trigger was a bit griity and the apex trigger kit solved that issue however trigger pull came down so much that now wife does a double tap sometimes unintentionally. Go to one of the ranges and shoot all of them before you decide if it is going to be your primary carry. Way to big of a gun to fit in my pants (esp shorts) I love the SW body guard 380 loaded with Cor Bon for my wallet pocket.
I have seen no issues on the pro and really love it. Can't remember price differences but with all my changes and add ons to my 9c it is around double what I paid for the pro. Shoot the pro you should like it.

MercyfulFate · February 25, 2013, 11:11 PM

I've heard nothing about the accuracy, but have heard about the trigger reset thing with the older ones (since changed to the Shield trigger).

Justice06RR · February 26, 2013, 02:44 AM

I've never heard of the accuracy issues with M&P's. If they were that bad, then you'd hear about them like Glock Kabooms and Brass-in-your-face problems, but you don't.

I've owned 2, M&P9 and M&P40 fullsize, and both were accurate and problem-free out of the box. I also own a Glock19, and shot many other Glocks. I've heard more Glock problems than I have with M&P's.

14guns isn't that bad at all. Sell one handgun that costs around $450-500 and buy a M&P.

Tactical Jackalope · February 26, 2013, 08:02 AM

I've decided I'm going to get one. The pro series 9mm with night sights. As soon as a deal in my other thread is either a yay or nay.

I'll take the chance. Why not right? I'm sure they're great and I've heard good things from people directly.

Uncle malice, good shooting!

My fellow Miamian! PM me!

southjk · February 26, 2013, 11:15 AM

I look forward to your impressions once you get it and fire it a bit. That exact gun is at the top of my next gun list.

ritepath · February 26, 2013, 11:20 AM

I traded my 9c for a dirtbike last month. My goal now is a full sized M&P in 9 or 45. Something is telling me another 9 since I have some 17 round mags and holsters.

Tactical Jackalope · February 26, 2013, 11:21 AM

southjk, we have the same birthday

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Join Date: December 5

Yeah, I'm going to see about that bad boy. I want that exact one I mentioned though! Not settling.

breakingcontact · February 27, 2013, 03:19 PM

Great guns. Meh trigger. New ones may be better?

They do get better the more they are shot.

J_Grimm · February 28, 2013, 11:55 AM

How accurate is accurate? For laughs a went ahead and shot at 50 yards standing free hand with crappy tulammo. I was kind of surprised when I walked up to the target... I did do the sear reshape and polished and smoothed everything related to the trigger though. The reset thing is a non factor to me.

February 25, 2013, 11:21 AM	#1
Tactical Jackalope Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 6,429	Thinking about getting an M&P 9 Anyone have anything to say about them? I've heard the good and the bad. I am not up to date on what's what anymore. So this will mainly be a CCW gun. (Yes I carry full size, always have ) Need more capacity than what I've been carrying. Now here's my thing, times are tough. I can't outright buy it right now. I went from 20 guns to about 14 now. I don't want to sell anymore. I want a main carry again, my PPQ and Glock gen 4 19 went bye bye and I want more capacity than 8+1 with the P220. So here's what I can do. Trade something(s) I have for an M&P 9. I have two Glocks on the chopping block. But I'm not sure... What would you guys do?

February 25, 2013, 11:30 AM	#3
Tactical Jackalope Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 6,429	Googled that Oh man...didn't hear about that one. Heard about the trigger issues. Those have been fixed apparently. Accuracy? Let me Google that. EDIT: Well that sucks.... Horses on the forum, open your mouths. Say it isn't so.

February 25, 2013, 11:39 AM	#6
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	They make the pro with a 5" barrel, but I got the standard 4.25" model. The balance is perfect. I'm actually hitting the range today. I'll try to snap a pic of a target or two - unless I'm just really off my game! __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

February 25, 2013, 11:51 AM	#12
TheGoldenState Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2010 Posts: 1,191	M&P is my favorite poly. I have the .40, never a single failure of any kind. I JUST got the 9mm. Takedown lever won't stay down w/o constant pressure. AND it's keyholing…3-4 out of 10-12 shots…...i'll be sending it back to S&W today with a told return time of 3-6 weeks. Still no failure to fire/eject/etc. though which is great. __________________ The Day You Get Comfortable Is The Day You Get Careless...

February 25, 2013, 01:56 PM	#15
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	Constantine, Here's a target from my lunch trip to the range. This one is 15 rounds at 30 feet/10 yards. I was shooting in groups of 5 and then reloading. I only had one box with me so I didn't want to burn through it super fast. 115gr USA Ammo reloads. The silhouette target in the back was left by the previous guy. He was shooting 12g slugs... I just left it up and taped my targets to it. Those are 1" rings. Pulled a couple of them, but wasn't too bad. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

February 25, 2013, 11:29 AM	#2
Water-Man Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,126	Has the accuracy problem with the M&P 9mm been corrected? I'd check on that before buying.

February 25, 2013, 11:41 AM	#7
MK11 Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2001 Posts: 577	The accuracy issues are real, although somewhat overblown. Some people say it's only the 5-inch Pro models that are affected, others say it's any full-size 9. Doesn't happen with all, but enough to be a consideration. Doesn't really raise it's head until you shoot at distance--25 yards and out. Mine (circa 2010) is a pretty good shooter at 25 yards--with heavier bullets. 15 yards and in, it's good with everything.

February 25, 2013, 11:49 AM	#9
Water-Man Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,126	More of a problem with 115gr & 124gr.. 147gr worked better. UncleMalice, you are wrong regarding the accuracy problems.

February 25, 2013, 11:57 AM	#13
Water-Man Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,126	Constantine, Go to 10-8 Performance and look at the M&P articles.

February 25, 2013, 01:17 PM	#14
TBT Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2005 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 971	The accuracy issues are real but they aren't as bad as some make them out to be. Last I heard Apex pinned the problem to the barrel/slide lockup and they were working on a fix. My M&P9... I don't notice it. But the issues are mainly past 25 yards and I can't remember when I last shot farther out than that. Someone might confirm or deny this but last I heard S&W was not doing anything about the accuracy issues via warranty because it was in spec? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong there but I recall reading that over at M4carbine. The M&P is a fantastic choice if you are looking at Polymer.

February 25, 2013, 02:06 PM	#16
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	This was another target. Just a 5 shot group. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

February 25, 2013, 06:08 PM	#17
Scarletma Junior Member Join Date: February 23, 2013 Posts: 12	MP 9mm Constantine, I am in Miami and have the MP9C, the pro and the Julie Galowski it is also a 5". I have only seen the Pro 9mm in 5" and that is what I have. Out of the box mine is and was fantastic and have zero issues of any kind. All my family members shoot better with the Pro 5", no comparison. The 9c trigger was a bit griity and the apex trigger kit solved that issue however trigger pull came down so much that now wife does a double tap sometimes unintentionally. Go to one of the ranges and shoot all of them before you decide if it is going to be your primary carry. Way to big of a gun to fit in my pants (esp shorts) I love the SW body guard 380 loaded with Cor Bon for my wallet pocket. I have seen no issues on the pro and really love it. Can't remember price differences but with all my changes and add ons to my 9c it is around double what I paid for the pro. Shoot the pro you should like it.

February 25, 2013, 11:11 PM	#18
MercyfulFate Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 2013 Posts: 138	I've heard nothing about the accuracy, but have heard about the trigger reset thing with the older ones (since changed to the Shield trigger). __________________ Massachusetts Native (Tough to be a gun owner!) Owner of: S&W Model 10-5, Beretta 92fs and a Mossberg Maverick 88 "Security" Shotgun

February 26, 2013, 02:44 AM	#19
Justice06RR Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2010 Location: Central FL Posts: 1,360	I've never heard of the accuracy issues with M&P's. If they were that bad, then you'd hear about them like Glock Kabooms and Brass-in-your-face problems, but you don't. I've owned 2, M&P9 and M&P40 fullsize, and both were accurate and problem-free out of the box. I also own a Glock19, and shot many other Glocks. I've heard more Glock problems than I have with M&P's. 14guns isn't that bad at all. Sell one handgun that costs around $450-500 and buy a M&P.

February 26, 2013, 08:02 AM	#20
Tactical Jackalope Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 6,429	Thinking about getting an M&P 9 I've decided I'm going to get one. The pro series 9mm with night sights. As soon as a deal in my other thread is either a yay or nay. I'll take the chance. Why not right? I'm sure they're great and I've heard good things from people directly. Uncle malice, good shooting! My fellow Miamian! PM me!

February 26, 2013, 11:15 AM	#21
southjk Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2012 Location: Memphis Posts: 468	I look forward to your impressions once you get it and fire it a bit. That exact gun is at the top of my next gun list.

February 26, 2013, 11:20 AM	#22
ritepath Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,419	I traded my 9c for a dirtbike last month. My goal now is a full sized M&P in 9 or 45. Something is telling me another 9 since I have some 17 round mags and holsters. __________________ There's only one...

February 27, 2013, 03:19 PM	#24
breakingcontact Junior member Join Date: October 25, 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 736	Re: Thinking about getting an M&P 9 Great guns. Meh trigger. New ones may be better? They do get better the more they are shot.