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Old January 10, 2019, 10:39 PM   #1
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Israeli Mauser mystery

Hi all, visited my local pawn shop and they had a Israeli Mauser for $500. I think the whole rifle is German. The barrel has hk stamped into it and the bolt resembles a k98. Anyone know anything about these and if it’s worth it. The stock is cracked and it looks like the sling band is not oringinal. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks

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Old January 11, 2019, 02:47 AM   #2
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Can't give you much help, other than the fact that Israel used anything they could get their hands on to begin with, including WW II Nazi marked 98s. In 8mm Mauser. Later they either got or made more in 7.62mm NATO.

Don't know details, but pretty sure this was the case.

I won't claim to understand today hi-dollar prices for old junk. Everything is not a collectable, even if the seller thinks it is. $500 for Mauser with a cracked stock? I value $500 more than that...but then, I'm old, and remember Mauser 98s, intact for $40, so $500 for any of them seems too much to me.
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Old January 11, 2019, 07:43 PM   #3
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I didn't see anything in those pics that tells me it's an Israeli surplus Mauser.
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Old January 11, 2019, 08:41 PM   #4
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Appears to be a VZ 24. Czech Mauser.
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Old January 11, 2019, 08:49 PM   #5
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It is a post war Czech made K-98k . It shows no sign of having anything to do with Israel . The stock is split from being fired with the action screws loose .
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Old January 11, 2019, 09:25 PM   #6
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Israeli Mausers were usually rebarreled to 7.62 NATO, with a big mark on the receiver. Hard to miss.
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Old January 12, 2019, 02:51 PM   #7
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Yes but pay special attention to the trigger guard and front sights. Also has the numbers 414 marked in white on the stock. I was also concerned because the receiver ring look like it’s been shaved away in a lathe. It could very well be chambered in 7.62
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Old January 12, 2019, 03:30 PM   #8
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I don't know just what it is but it does not look like $500 to me. Or any price, really.
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Old January 12, 2019, 05:26 PM   #9
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What it is , is a post war Czech made K98k . What would " shaving away " the receiver have to do with it being chambered in 308 ? That does not look like lathe work to me , it looks like a bubba tried to remove the barrel with a pipe wrench . The trigger guard is post WWII Czech , found on post war Czech K98k rifles . The barrel was left over from German WWII K98k production and has the German barrel steel code still on it .
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Old January 12, 2019, 06:46 PM   #10
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Thanks for the clarification. I believe y’all saved me $500
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Old April 8, 2019, 11:54 AM   #13
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Israel did contract with CZ for K98 pattern rifles, they had a Czech lion crest on the receiver ring, an IDF emblem (6 pointed star with sword and olive branch) near the serial number, and were normally stamped with 7.62 when rechambered. That is the correct style of bottom metal for IDF contract rifles, but I don't see anything else that fits.

Here is what an IDF contract action looks like.

The toe of the stock would also be marked (burned/branded) 7.62.

On edit: The sling might be Israeli, but can't tell without seeing the markings.

Why do they think it is an IDF rifle?
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