Out of small rifle primers . . . but . . .

Prof Young · January 13, 2021, 09:43 PM

Well, I'm now out of small rifle primers, but the 223 shelf in the ammo closet looks pretty good.

Life is good.
Prof Young

rc · January 13, 2021, 10:27 PM

Hopefully things get better and not worse.

Metal god · January 14, 2021, 01:18 AM

Out ? Hmm not sure I’d want to get that far on anything . I try to leave a few of everything just in case something new comes a long I want to try or I end up needing more of this loaded then that. I’ve ran into that before but it was with cases . Loaded up all my preped cases and a month later a range trip was planed with short lead time that required a completely different load then I had loaded .

oldmanFCSA · January 14, 2021, 11:23 AM

I've been using Y2K leftover primers I found in an ammo can from when I moved years ago. Tested them out - still work fine - same range of velocity check by LabRadar. Leaves me about 5000 primers to use unless I find more in my stash.

Small pistol primers leaves me about 3000 left.

Sure hope this CRUNCH ends soon.

Bayou · January 14, 2021, 12:23 PM

"Hopefully things get better and not worse."

Yes, we can hope. But this time, the political fundamentals of the country have shifted far to the left and against our shooting sport and hobby.

I'm not optimistic things will get any better any time soon, if they improve at all...

Bayou

armoredman · January 14, 2021, 02:12 PM

I am afraid I will be down to a couple hundred rounds a year soon, or I will have to use all of them.

ciwsguy · January 20, 2021, 07:10 PM

I’ve begun to ration what I load and shoot. IMO It may be early 2022 before things start to return to normal primer and powder supply availability. At least that’s what I’m thinking. Also going back to shooting 22LR.
What are you guys thinking about this?
And please none of the snide remarks of the like: “we should have known better and stocked up on reloading supplies you morons.” Not everyone has the resources to do that.

BillyBoy 57 · January 20, 2021, 07:13 PM

I have been shooting black powder guns more to save my centerfire some what .

Shadow9mm · January 20, 2021, 08:38 PM

I'm hoping to be in the same boat shorty. Prepping casings right now

**Unclenick** · January 20, 2021, 09:46 PM

Airguns will keep your trigger finger in tune. The CO2 guns come in numerous styles and weights. And you don't even have to travel to the range to use them. I haven't tried Airsoft, so I don't know if it is equivalent, though it won't have match accuracy as some pellet guns do.

Colorado Redneck · January 20, 2021, 10:53 PM

If things don't get really out of whack, we should hopefully see this dearth of ammo and loading supplies begin to ease in maybe a year...?? Just my feeling about it from previous shortages. If the Remington production facilities get up and running, ammo and primers should become available in the future. It probably pays to be stingy with what you have on hand and try to stretch things out.

rc · January 21, 2021, 02:29 AM

Amen, Sir Colorado Redneck! One must plan for future uncertainty and anyone who didn't see this coming from a long way off hasn't been paying attention.

mgulino · January 21, 2021, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow9mm

I'm hoping to be in the same boat shorty. Prepping casings right now

Rationing supplies I have on hand and prepping cases for when more supplies are available.

stagpanther · January 21, 2021, 08:12 AM

Assuming the zombie apocalypse crowd and the hickory nut militias have finally come to the realization that declaring war on the US and each other isn't the best idea after all--I anticipate the shortages should start easing up soon.

Metal god · January 22, 2021, 02:50 AM

Quote:

IMO It may be early 2022 before things start to return to normal primer and powder supply availability. At least that’s what I’m thinking. Also going back to shooting 22LR.
What are you guys thinking about this?

It's what I'm doing as far as cartridges that use small pistol primers . I have 4k SPP and about 600 to 1k cartridges that use them loaded plus I think I have a few hundred cases primed and ready to load . Regardless I'm not shooting them right now , well not as much anyways . I would normally take at least one 9mm every time I went to the range and rarely take my 45acp . Well that has flipped and I'll be shooting more 45 now do to me having more LPP then I do SPP and rarely take my 9 with me . All this may be a blessing in disguise . I've let my rifle shooting REALLY get rusty and this may be the perfect reason to put up the pistols for a bit and start shooting more rifles . I mean I've not shot a rifle past 100yds in over 2 years

USSR · January 22, 2021, 08:45 AM

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IMO It may be early 2022 before things start to return to normal primer and powder supply availability.

Quote:

Assuming the zombie apocalypse crowd and the hickory nut militias have finally come to the realization that declaring war on the US and each other isn't the best idea after all--I anticipate the shortages should start easing up soon.

I don't see it happening until at least 2023, and then only if the opposing party wins big in the mid-term election. Hang onto your hat, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

Don

rodfac · January 24, 2021, 10:51 PM

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I don't see it happening until at least 2023, and then only if the opposing party wins big in the mid-term election. Hang onto your hat, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

Amen...USSR well said. Regards, Rod

5whiskey · January 24, 2021, 11:23 PM

Actually the worry will fade a lot going into the election cycle of 2022 I hope. I don’t think the more anti gun party will highlight gun control during election season. If the cycle we’ve seen the past 40 years continues, the more pro gun party will control at least one house in congress in 2023. When that happens things will ease up some as political fears will be subsided again for a while. Also, of note it appears that gun control does not appear to be a major priority right now. It’s not discussed much. Let’s hope it stays that way. Were at a point where literally one or two moderate democrat senators in swing districts hold all the power on gun control legislation that may be brought up. Like altering the course of history type of power...

As to components stash, I’m good for a while. I was deployed and bored in the spring and decided to stock up in case the election swung a certain way. Granted I don’t have an unlimited supply, but I’m rolling 2k deep on LRPs, 3k per on each of LPPs and SPPs, and 1K on SRP. Between that and black powder shooting I won’t have to start rationing for the most part for a year. Maybe some on 9mm pistol shooting to save primers for my new found hobby of collecting old .38 police revolvers, but that’s more of a focus shift than rationing. I’m stacked pretty deep on all types of powder except .223. I never shoot that anyway now that’s just to keep my young’ins happy.

5whiskey · January 24, 2021, 11:32 PM

Also, I’m with Metal God I would always hold back at least a few hundred in case you wanted to try a new caliber or load.

Bucksnort1 · January 28, 2021, 01:30 PM

Metal God,

The professor says he is out of small rifle primers which means he loaded everything he has.

I load as I need to load.

A couple years ago, before this shortage, I posted a thread asking whether I should load everything I have or as needed.

Someone suggested that it would be easier to sell components than reloaded ammunition. That is my current philosophy.

win-52 · January 28, 2021, 02:01 PM

I think the one thing we are over looking is not when will it be available but what will the inflated price be ??? Anytime there is a shortage of any item the price goes out of sight .

Metal god · January 28, 2021, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OP

Well, I'm now out of small rifle primers, but the 223 shelf in the ammo closet looks pretty good.

Which means he loaded more then is needed so your

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucksnort

I load as I need to load.

does not apply , I'd hold some back . Of course that would depend on how many I have and how many rounds I feel I may need loaded . If I only had a couple hundred primes and nothing loaded . I'd likely load them all up . On the other hand if I had a couple thousand primers I'd likely only load 1500 at most and save some for who knows what . Like maybe needing to use them for small pistol magnum primers in a pinch . I've used SR primers in 357 loads before .

jetinteriorguy · January 29, 2021, 07:19 AM

I’m sitting pretty good. I have just short of 10,000 SRP’s, a little over 8000LRP’s, a little over 6000SPP’s, but only 3000LPP’s which I don’t shoot a lot of. But, I also have a ton of already loaded ammunition in .38sp, .357mag, .41mag, 9mm, .223, 7.62x39, and 6.5CM. and enough brass, powder, and projectiles to load a ton more.

January 13, 2021, 09:43 PM	#1
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,078	Out of small rifle primers . . . but . . . Well, I'm now out of small rifle primers, but the 223 shelf in the ammo closet looks pretty good. Life is good. Prof Young

January 14, 2021, 01:18 AM	#3
Metal god Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 5,507	Out ? Hmm not sure I’d want to get that far on anything . I try to leave a few of everything just in case something new comes a long I want to try or I end up needing more of this loaded then that. I’ve ran into that before but it was with cases . Loaded up all my preped cases and a month later a range trip was planed with short lead time that required a completely different load then I had loaded . __________________ If Jesus had a gun , he'd probably still be alive ! I almost always write my posts regardless of content in a jovial manor and intent . If that's not how you took it , please try again .

January 14, 2021, 11:23 AM	#4
oldmanFCSA Senior Member Join Date: November 8, 2010 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 253	I've been using Y2K leftover primers I found in an ammo can from when I moved years ago. Tested them out - still work fine - same range of velocity check by LabRadar. Leaves me about 5000 primers to use unless I find more in my stash. Small pistol primers leaves me about 3000 left. Sure hope this CRUNCH ends soon. __________________ OldmanFCSA = "Oldman" at www.fcsa.org FCSA Member, SCSA Member, NRA Member, & AMA Member "Oldage & Treachery will overcome Youth & Skill"

January 14, 2021, 12:23 PM	#5
Bayou Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2016 Location: SE Louisiana Posts: 293	"Hopefully things get better and not worse." Yes, we can hope. But this time, the political fundamentals of the country have shifted far to the left and against our shooting sport and hobby. I'm not optimistic things will get any better any time soon, if they improve at all... Bayou __________________ Bayou NRA Life Member "Keep Calm and Reload"

January 20, 2021, 07:10 PM	#7
ciwsguy Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2008 Location: KY Posts: 111	Not reloading or shooting as much I’ve begun to ration what I load and shoot. IMO It may be early 2022 before things start to return to normal primer and powder supply availability. At least that’s what I’m thinking. Also going back to shooting 22LR. What are you guys thinking about this? And please none of the snide remarks of the like: “we should have known better and stocked up on reloading supplies you morons.” Not everyone has the resources to do that. Last edited by ciwsguy; January 20, 2021 at 07:18 PM.

January 13, 2021, 10:27 PM	#2
rc Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: CA Posts: 1,280	Hopefully things get better and not worse.

January 14, 2021, 02:12 PM	#6
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 4,972	I am afraid I will be down to a couple hundred rounds a year soon, or I will have to use all of them.

January 20, 2021, 07:13 PM	#8
BillyBoy 57 Junior Member Join Date: December 5, 2020 Posts: 14	I have been shooting black powder guns more to save my centerfire some what .

January 20, 2021, 08:38 PM	#9
Shadow9mm Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,116	I'm hoping to be in the same boat shorty. Prepping casings right now __________________ I don't believe in "range fodder" that is why I reload.

January 20, 2021, 09:46 PM	#10
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,464	Airguns will keep your trigger finger in tune. The CO2 guns come in numerous styles and weights. And you don't even have to travel to the range to use them. I haven't tried Airsoft, so I don't know if it is equivalent, though it won't have match accuracy as some pellet guns do. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

January 20, 2021, 10:53 PM	#11
Colorado Redneck Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2008 Location: Northeast Colorado Posts: 1,876	If things don't get really out of whack, we should hopefully see this dearth of ammo and loading supplies begin to ease in maybe a year...?? Just my feeling about it from previous shortages. If the Remington production facilities get up and running, ammo and primers should become available in the future. It probably pays to be stingy with what you have on hand and try to stretch things out.

January 21, 2021, 02:29 AM	#12
rc Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: CA Posts: 1,280	Amen, Sir Colorado Redneck! One must plan for future uncertainty and anyone who didn't see this coming from a long way off hasn't been paying attention.

January 21, 2021, 08:12 AM	#14
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 8,218	Assuming the zombie apocalypse crowd and the hickory nut militias have finally come to the realization that declaring war on the US and each other isn't the best idea after all--I anticipate the shortages should start easing up soon. __________________ If you’re ever hiking in the woods and you get lost, just look up and find the brightest star in the sky and you’ll know which way space is. *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

January 24, 2021, 11:23 PM	#18
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,415	Actually the worry will fade a lot going into the election cycle of 2022 I hope. I don’t think the more anti gun party will highlight gun control during election season. If the cycle we’ve seen the past 40 years continues, the more pro gun party will control at least one house in congress in 2023. When that happens things will ease up some as political fears will be subsided again for a while. Also, of note it appears that gun control does not appear to be a major priority right now. It’s not discussed much. Let’s hope it stays that way. Were at a point where literally one or two moderate democrat senators in swing districts hold all the power on gun control legislation that may be brought up. Like altering the course of history type of power... As to components stash, I’m good for a while. I was deployed and bored in the spring and decided to stock up in case the election swung a certain way. Granted I don’t have an unlimited supply, but I’m rolling 2k deep on LRPs, 3k per on each of LPPs and SPPs, and 1K on SRP. Between that and black powder shooting I won’t have to start rationing for the most part for a year. Maybe some on 9mm pistol shooting to save primers for my new found hobby of collecting old .38 police revolvers, but that’s more of a focus shift than rationing. I’m stacked pretty deep on all types of powder except .223. I never shoot that anyway now that’s just to keep my young’ins happy. __________________ Support the NRA-ILA Auction, ends 03/09/2018 https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=593946 Last edited by 5whiskey; January 24, 2021 at 11:30 PM.

January 24, 2021, 11:32 PM	#19
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,415	Also, I’m with Metal God I would always hold back at least a few hundred in case you wanted to try a new caliber or load. __________________ Support the NRA-ILA Auction, ends 03/09/2018 https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=593946

January 28, 2021, 01:30 PM	#20
Bucksnort1 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2013 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 1,017	Metal God, The professor says he is out of small rifle primers which means he loaded everything he has. I load as I need to load. A couple years ago, before this shortage, I posted a thread asking whether I should load everything I have or as needed. Someone suggested that it would be easier to sell components than reloaded ammunition. That is my current philosophy.

January 28, 2021, 02:01 PM	#21
win-52 Junior Member Join Date: September 8, 2014 Posts: 1	I think the one thing we are over looking is not when will it be available but what will the inflated price be ??? Anytime there is a shortage of any item the price goes out of sight .

January 29, 2021, 07:19 AM	#23
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 1,802	I’m sitting pretty good. I have just short of 10,000 SRP’s, a little over 8000LRP’s, a little over 6000SPP’s, but only 3000LPP’s which I don’t shoot a lot of. But, I also have a ton of already loaded ammunition in .38sp, .357mag, .41mag, 9mm, .223, 7.62x39, and 6.5CM. and enough brass, powder, and projectiles to load a ton more.

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