October 29, 2013, 06:56 AM | #26 |
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We've known Ruger's been working on a new shotgun for a while, but I'm disappointed that it turned out to be a new Red Label.
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October 29, 2013, 11:26 AM | #27 |
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I'll soon have a chance to shoot one as a gun writer friend is getting one for a review - we'll see how well it works
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October 29, 2013, 12:44 PM | #28 |
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There was one at the gunshow in Corpus Christi this week and it sure was a beauty. I'm glad they're brining it back.
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I wonder if the new Red Label will be manufactured at the new Ruger plant in Mayodan, NC?
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Ruger is known for putting out a quality product at a bargain price. Not so with the Red Label.
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I must have been lucky. I have one in 12 ga and one in 28 ga. Never had a problem. Shot hundreds of rounds for doves..never missed a lick. Oh well.
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I and several people I know own at least one red label, Mine is a 1995 model and has had thousands of rounds fired through it. It was fired quite a lot for trap and skeet, along with acquiring a few minor scratches and such in the field.
I find it interesting that the Red Label was introduced in 1979 (12 gauge) and was produced until when, 20XX? This is not the typical production run of a POS shotgun as some would have you believe. To be honest, the only complaint I ever heard first hand from a Red Label owner was that it was a little heavy, and maybe they didn't think the wood was "fancy" enough.
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It was not only heavy, it was VERY muzzle heavy, even with the short barrels. It opened TOO easily, indicating a loose and sloppy fit. When opened, there was side-to-side play with the barrels and action, not a good thing
Again, the concept was good, the execution of the concept sucked - glad yours worked out for you, but for many of us, it was a big let down - especially among us 28 gauge owners which was the model they supposedly got "right" (but didn't) Time will tell this time around whether they corrected things And sorry to tell you, but 20 years does not make a good production run - 100 does as a start |
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Well, I bought them as field guns...which is what they were designed for. As far as the looseness, there designed that way. Looser as the barrel falls to eject and tighter as you raise them up to lock. The receivers are tapered for this. That way you don't need two hands and three buddies to open and close them.
I also know people that shoot a lot of skeet with theres with no issues. Mine do what I bought them to do. To each his own. |
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I've had my straight stocked 20 since 1992. Beautiful wood (except for my scratches) and has served me well. I'm sure the new ones will be typical of Ruger. Good value. Not the best shotgun but a very good one for the price.
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Yup..I have browning grade 3's..and yet my Ruger functions just as good. I hope the newer ones are good too.
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Sorry Stevie ray - THAT recommendation was towards the person who wanted a US-made gun and said there weren't any. As to being wealthy - not hardly - shooting is my hobby, I do not fish, own a boat, RV or camper, nor do I drive a pickup that gets 5 miles to the gallon - I shoot targets, and a lot of them and I do without in other areas to pay for it - so get over your wealth envy in that regard.
The Ruger I owned was a POS, and it was the one they supposedly got right. I will take a well-made Japanese Browning over a poorly made US gun every time. I can get a nicely-made Beretta for what the Ruger will sell for - to me, that is a no-brainer - either of the Browning or Berettas are time-proven to be well-made - the Ruger sucks and was pulled from the market because it sucked |
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Try again. you can get a new Beretta for about $1500 or so which is not bad or an O/U
Yes, I know better it seems as I actually owned one - something you didn't Take the wealth envy to your oval Obamacare site and whine, not interested |
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I don't know about what the Red Labels were in the past or any problems they may or may not have had.
I do know that I watched on TV a Ruger sponsored show. They were showcasing the new Red Label's. The gentleman from Ruger was showing some of the changes they made from the old ones. He specifically brought attention to the locking mechanism and talked about better weight distribution. So, It looks like they may be addressing some issues that people found in the past and are striving to put out a better version. |
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Someone needs to take a deep breath
and that someone is not Big D.
I can see where someone would be confused, but before the attack someone they should make certain they have things correct. Going back and reading Big D's posts, it is clear that when he was speaking about $3K for a new o/u he was talking about Brownings and Berettas. His reference to a used CS RBL with a nice case for $3K was to a sxs from Connecticut Shotgun. Where is that troll alert? |
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I bought my Red Label 12ga about 6 years ago in like new condition for less than $900. It sees a fair bit of trap and sporting clay trips and has been a great shotgun with no issues what so ever.
I like the balance, it shoots well and fits me perfectly. I bought mine because a friend has had one for about 15 years, shooting league trap with it, with no issues at all. Once I shot his, I started looking for one of my own. No regrets here.
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100 glowing testimonials on here will not make up for all the issues other owners experienced with the last batch of red Labels. People did not make up these problems. I must have sent one customer's back five times. I seem to remember Ruger's glowing sales pitch from last time, also. I hope they have solved all the problems, as I do like Rugers. But, I think I will wait and let others do the beta testing before I jump.
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Has anyone on here shot one of the new Red labels? Impressions?
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Well lets hope they've improved the wood to metal fit on the new Red Labels... The fit on the old ones was pathetic.. The way that the buttstock met up to the receiver was just plain ugly..
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RRL New and Improved?
Sorry for the long post, but as an owner of the new ones, am going to say I am, so far, well pleased, and will propose the following reasons I had for buying it.
I first saw a RRL on a goose hunt on the Katy Prairie in Texas in 1988 (back when there was a Katy Prairie there). None of us amateurs was hitting anything, and the guide reached around his back, pulled out a plain jane O/U and dropped a big snow goose clean. Whatever an actual guide, who does this for a living would use must be worth a damn, so I asked him what it was, and he said simply "It's a Ruger Red Label." At that moment I was hooked. Fast forward 25 years, and I finally have the $$$ to upgrade from the 870 Express I have been shooting since then. I can buy a Browning like my brother's, a Beretta like my buddy's, or a Winchester like my son's pals. Problem with these? Though they're all beautiful and durable, not a single one of them is made by an American who otherwise wouldn't have a job. I have a job because someone wants to pay for what I do, and I am happy to return the favor to other companies that produce here, and keep Americans employed. I will only buy American whenever at all possible. The fact that it is a gun that I saw a working guide use makes this perfect. Now when I saw my LGS had one. I bought it immediately. I believe it was Halloween. I have shot it every weekend since, and twice on Sunday without a single malfunction (so far, about 500 rounds). It handles smoothly, the recoil is not bothersome (maybe I just got used to recoil by the 870(?)), the action is slick, and the wood is quite nice, even if not heavily grained. The wood to metal finish isn't as pretty as I'd like, but the Beretta silver pigeons to which I compared it to weren't much better, actually. To me it's durable, subtly attractive, and American made. |
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