S&W 3rd Gen Autos - Page 4

Jeff #111 · June 19, 2020, 01:48 PM

Personally I'm very fond of the S&W 3rd Gen autos. Yes parts and genuine S&W mags can be hard to obtain now, but they're still great handguns. I don't shoot them enough to worry about breaking parts so I consider that to be a non-issue. I recently picked up the 4513 at auction and I inherited the 4586 from my dad. I also have a 4516-1 that I inherited. Solid handguns.

Forte S+W · June 19, 2020, 08:16 PM

Zombie thread though it may be, I recently purchased a California Highway Patrol 4006TSW which I can't shoot due to COVID-19, so the most I can do is talk about it, and I don't get many opportunities to that.

Frankly, I love this gun. It's a huge, thick chunk of steel, a gun so insanely overbuilt that it makes the Ruger P-Series look slim by comparison. It's a real tank of a gun and I can only imagine just how much it's going to tame the recoil of .40 S&W once I finally get an opportunity to shoot it.

It makes me sad that S&W doesn't make 3rd Gen Pistols anymore, because I honestly think they're nicer than other all metal, DA/SA hammer-fired pistols of the time. Seriously, I can only conclude that the 5906 failed to surpass the popularity of the Beretta 92 and SIG P226 in popularity because it wasn't ever in military service and the imbecilic European owners of Smith & Wesson at the time made too many unpopular, anti-2A decisions in the 90s which turned off a lot of folks to the brand. What a shame.

Jeff #111 · June 19, 2020, 11:52 PM

They're good pistols, but everything is polymer now. Shame, but that's economics for you.

1goodshot · June 20, 2020, 06:16 AM

Ive got a 4506 and a 4516 sitting in the back of my safe that Ive never shot.

Dan-O · June 20, 2020, 11:48 AM

I about fainted when I priced some 10mm 3rd gens on gunbroker the other day. Over 1k....

KyJim · June 20, 2020, 02:04 PM

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Over 1k

I have to wonder how much of that is due to the Covid-19/racial unrest buying frenzy and how much of it is due to true collector interest.

jcv · June 20, 2020, 03:39 PM

I first qualified for a carry license with a 3913. I carry a 9mm Shield these days, but the 3913 makes frequent range visits.

Jeff #111 · June 20, 2020, 04:25 PM

Prices on the second-hand market have been all over the map these past few years.

Ignition Override · June 20, 2020, 04:40 PM

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It's possible that some people here never found this on Google. Without this chart, and >> Not qualifying for Mensa <<, I would understand little about S&W.

Forte S+W · June 26, 2020, 07:24 PM

I can't believe that I actually forgot to post some pics of my CHP 4006TSW.

Onward Allusion · June 26, 2020, 10:39 PM

Mags are still plentiful. The guns are so over engineered that the only parts that will need replacing are springs, which are very much available. As for other parts, I would get a spare and cannibalize it if necessary. Yeah, love these guns.

TheFlash · July 9, 2020, 09:25 PM

Bought my 6906 new and will never part with it.
Kick myself for not getting a 3913LS when I had the chance...

lowercase · July 11, 2020, 06:44 PM

I was on a holy quest for a good 4506-1 for years after passing on one at a local shop and really not knowing what it was.

I looked so hard for a 4506 that I actually found (and bought) a 1006 first! That 1006 is one of the jewels of my collection.

I finally found a really nice 4506-1, too.

USVI · July 11, 2020, 11:56 PM

I owned a 4006 many years ago, not the most accurate pistol I've ever owned but at 37.3 ounces of stainless steel quite the threat for knockout power.

hemiram · July 12, 2020, 02:56 AM

I sold my near new 4006TSW a couple of years ago. I needed cash but I sure wish I had kept it. I had all the '06's, 5906, 4006, 4506, and 6906. I recently got another 6906 and now I need another 4006, but wow, the prices...

agtman · July 13, 2020, 04:19 PM

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Geez, thread is over ten years old, how you even went about finding it is amazing in and of itself.

Major necro-thread, no doubt.

But S&W 3rd Gens are cool pistols and - assuming reasonable condition - are increasingly commanding premium prices on the 'pre-owned' market.

larryf1952 · July 13, 2020, 04:38 PM

This thread is an oldie, but a goodie, for sure. I bought a Smith 4006 in 1991, soon after the round and pistol was introduced. It's still in my safe. I'll be pulling it out after a long rest in a few weeks for some time at the range...

cw308 · July 15, 2020, 07:25 AM

I own a 4566 has a square trigger guard ,it's built like a tank.

Samantha7 · July 23, 2020, 10:38 AM

I had a beautiful Smith & Wesson model 645 with all the factory goodies, box,unopened cleaning kit, papers. When I sold it, I included seven factory magazines and three sets of grips.

fastbolt · July 23, 2020, 02:21 PM

While an older resurrected thread, it's still nice to see the appreciation of the S&W 3rd gen guns.

I have a small, modest collection of them in 9,. 40 & .45, originally ordered as "working" (off-duty) guns back when I could buy them at a discount under the discontinued armorer purchase program. I was only interested in the compact and subcompact models, though.

The last one I bought was a late production 3913TSW which I had the opportunity to purchase as a former duty weapon. When I got word this was going to occur, I turned in the 4513TSW I was issued and then hand-selected and checked out one of the few remaining unissued NIB 3913TSW's in our inventory. It wasn't in-service very long before the TSW's were pulled from service for replacement with plastic, and that 3913TSW was sent over by my agency to an authorized FFL for transfer to me. I won't rub in the price.

It nicely complements my late 90's standard 3913 (ordered after completing an armorer class).

One of the other older 3rd gen's I own is a CS45S (S=stainless slide) I ordered when the stainless version was first released. I've run a lot of rounds through that chunky little .45 over the years.

Matter of fact, today it's going to see the duty as a retirement weapon carried when I take my wife for driver over along the ocean. The couple of older holsters I picked up for it are a Hume H726 (semi-breakfront) and a Blade-tech belt scabbard. The BT holster was made for me when I knew someone working at the company, and he made it for me with a deeper front cut than was standard (for faster clearance during the presentation).

It wears an original set of the old Ashley Express Big Dot sights that was offered for the 3rd gen CS45 back then. They didn't offer tritium in the rear notch for that model back then, though. Just a white stripe.

BourbonCowboy · July 23, 2020, 06:42 PM

I had a 4056TSW but I decided to sell it...

Apparently there were only about 1200 of them ever made. I really don't regret the sale, as it didn't fit into my home defense system. I shot it well, but I didn't like the way the recoil left me hunting for the target on a follow-up shot. What I do regret is not holding on to it until this current crisis - which would've brought more money.

paknheat · July 26, 2020, 02:35 PM

I got a 411 that shoots pretty decent. Makes a right nice truck gun.

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June 19, 2020, 08:16 PM	#77
Forte S+W Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2019 Posts: 819	Zombie thread though it may be, I recently purchased a California Highway Patrol 4006TSW which I can't shoot due to COVID-19, so the most I can do is talk about it, and I don't get many opportunities to that. Frankly, I love this gun. It's a huge, thick chunk of steel, a gun so insanely overbuilt that it makes the Ruger P-Series look slim by comparison. It's a real tank of a gun and I can only imagine just how much it's going to tame the recoil of .40 S&W once I finally get an opportunity to shoot it. It makes me sad that S&W doesn't make 3rd Gen Pistols anymore, because I honestly think they're nicer than other all metal, DA/SA hammer-fired pistols of the time. Seriously, I can only conclude that the 5906 failed to surpass the popularity of the Beretta 92 and SIG P226 in popularity because it wasn't ever in military service and the imbecilic European owners of Smith & Wesson at the time made too many unpopular, anti-2A decisions in the 90s which turned off a lot of folks to the brand. What a shame. __________________ Conspiracy theorists are the greatest political spin-doctors of all time. Only they can make the absolute worst political blunders sound like spectacular feats of ingenuity.

June 26, 2020, 07:24 PM	#85
Forte S+W Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2019 Posts: 819	I can't believe that I actually forgot to post some pics of my CHP 4006TSW. __________________ Conspiracy theorists are the greatest political spin-doctors of all time. Only they can make the absolute worst political blunders sound like spectacular feats of ingenuity.

June 26, 2020, 10:39 PM	#86
Onward Allusion Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2009 Location: Back in a Non-Free State Posts: 3,133	Mags are still plentiful. The guns are so over engineered that the only parts that will need replacing are springs, which are very much available. As for other parts, I would get a spare and cannibalize it if necessary. Yeah, love these guns. __________________ Simple as ABC . . . Always Be Carrying

July 23, 2020, 02:21 PM	#95
fastbolt Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2002 Location: northern CA for a little while longer Posts: 1,931	While an older resurrected thread, it's still nice to see the appreciation of the S&W 3rd gen guns. I have a small, modest collection of them in 9,. 40 & .45, originally ordered as "working" (off-duty) guns back when I could buy them at a discount under the discontinued armorer purchase program. I was only interested in the compact and subcompact models, though. The last one I bought was a late production 3913TSW which I had the opportunity to purchase as a former duty weapon. When I got word this was going to occur, I turned in the 4513TSW I was issued and then hand-selected and checked out one of the few remaining unissued NIB 3913TSW's in our inventory. It wasn't in-service very long before the TSW's were pulled from service for replacement with plastic, and that 3913TSW was sent over by my agency to an authorized FFL for transfer to me. I won't rub in the price. It nicely complements my late 90's standard 3913 (ordered after completing an armorer class). One of the other older 3rd gen's I own is a CS45S (S=stainless slide) I ordered when the stainless version was first released. I've run a lot of rounds through that chunky little .45 over the years. Matter of fact, today it's going to see the duty as a retirement weapon carried when I take my wife for driver over along the ocean. The couple of older holsters I picked up for it are a Hume H726 (semi-breakfront) and a Blade-tech belt scabbard. The BT holster was made for me when I knew someone working at the company, and he made it for me with a deeper front cut than was standard (for faster clearance during the presentation). It wears an original set of the old Ashley Express Big Dot sights that was offered for the 3rd gen CS45 back then. They didn't offer tritium in the rear notch for that model back then, though. Just a white stripe. __________________ Retired LE - firearms instructor & armorer

June 19, 2020, 11:52 PM	#78
Jeff #111 Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2001 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,072	They're good pistols, but everything is polymer now. Shame, but that's economics for you.

June 20, 2020, 06:16 AM	#79
1goodshot Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: chandler,az Posts: 929	Ive got a 4506 and a 4516 sitting in the back of my safe that Ive never shot.

June 20, 2020, 11:48 AM	#80
Dan-O Senior Member Join Date: August 3, 2011 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 969	I about fainted when I priced some 10mm 3rd gens on gunbroker the other day. Over 1k....

June 20, 2020, 03:39 PM	#82
jcv Member Join Date: October 19, 2014 Posts: 35	I first qualified for a carry license with a 3913. I carry a 9mm Shield these days, but the 3913 makes frequent range visits.

June 20, 2020, 04:25 PM	#83
Jeff #111 Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2001 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,072	Prices on the second-hand market have been all over the map these past few years.

June 20, 2020, 04:40 PM	#84
Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,887	--------Please excuse the size. Don't know how to shrink-------. It's possible that some people here never found this on Google. Without this chart, and >> Not qualifying for Mensa <<, I would understand little about S&W.

July 9, 2020, 09:25 PM	#87
TheFlash Member Join Date: October 9, 2012 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 73	Bought my 6906 new and will never part with it. Kick myself for not getting a 3913LS when I had the chance...

July 11, 2020, 06:44 PM	#88
lowercase Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2012 Posts: 287	I was on a holy quest for a good 4506-1 for years after passing on one at a local shop and really not knowing what it was. I looked so hard for a 4506 that I actually found (and bought) a 1006 first! That 1006 is one of the jewels of my collection. I finally found a really nice 4506-1, too.

July 11, 2020, 11:56 PM	#89
USVI Member Join Date: May 9, 2013 Posts: 42	I owned a 4006 many years ago, not the most accurate pistol I've ever owned but at 37.3 ounces of stainless steel quite the threat for knockout power.

July 12, 2020, 02:56 AM	#90
hemiram Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2005 Location: Toledo, ohio Posts: 762	I sold my near new 4006TSW a couple of years ago. I needed cash but I sure wish I had kept it. I had all the '06's, 5906, 4006, 4506, and 6906. I recently got another 6906 and now I need another 4006, but wow, the prices...

July 13, 2020, 04:38 PM	#92
larryf1952 Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2004 Location: KCMO Posts: 615	This thread is an oldie, but a goodie, for sure. I bought a Smith 4006 in 1991, soon after the round and pistol was introduced. It's still in my safe. I'll be pulling it out after a long rest in a few weeks for some time at the range...

July 15, 2020, 07:25 AM	#93
cw308 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Location: Plainview , Long Island NY Posts: 3,863	I own a 4566 has a square trigger guard ,it's built like a tank.

July 23, 2020, 10:38 AM	#94
Samantha7 Member Join Date: October 27, 2019 Posts: 17	I had a beautiful Smith & Wesson model 645 with all the factory goodies, box,unopened cleaning kit, papers. When I sold it, I included seven factory magazines and three sets of grips.

July 23, 2020, 06:42 PM	#96
BourbonCowboy Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2019 Posts: 127	I had a 4056TSW but I decided to sell it... Apparently there were only about 1200 of them ever made. I really don't regret the sale, as it didn't fit into my home defense system. I shot it well, but I didn't like the way the recoil left me hunting for the target on a follow-up shot. What I do regret is not holding on to it until this current crisis - which would've brought more money.

July 26, 2020, 02:35 PM	#97
paknheat Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2006 Location: East Texas Posts: 334	I got a 411 that shoots pretty decent. Makes a right nice truck gun. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro