Thinking about $200 stamp to ATF fro GSG-5

P99AS9 · February 19, 2009, 09:19 PM

I'm thinking about getting a GSG-5 pistol and attaching a stock onto it. I have never gone about dealing with a class 3 firearm and sending a $200 stamp to the ATF. Can somebody give me the steps on how to do this?

johnwilliamson062 · February 19, 2009, 10:01 PM

i think you have to get the carbine and shorten it. I am not positive, and I admit such a rule makes no sense, but hey, that's gun laws.

Step one would be to goto the ATF site and request the form.

Wiskey_33 · February 20, 2009, 07:32 AM

This is where I get confused.

I've seen people put stocks onto pistols before, and they're making an AOW, but if you put a stock on an AR pistol, you've got an SBR?

Superhouse 15 · February 20, 2009, 08:27 AM

If you put a stock on a pistol, or shorten a rifle barrel, you are still making a Short Barrelled Rifle (SBR). Same Form 1, same $200. I personally recommend establishing a Revocable Living Trust to do it. Fill out the Form 1 in duplicate, copy them to be 2-sided, and send in with a check, copies of the Trust info, and wait.
Here's a link to the latest revision of the form.
http://webpages.charter.net/mcfooter...-RevSept07.pdf

aroundlsu · February 20, 2009, 03:13 PM

REALLY, guys.. for the 3rd time this week.. if you don't understand the rules don't post opinions in this forum. It's mind boggling to see guys with 1500+ posts make blatantly wrong statements.

Now onto the question and the RIGHT answer..

P99AS9, you want to complete a "Form 1" to manufacture a "Short Barrel Rifle". You can do that with the GSG-5 pistol. It's very easy. You can get the form from titleii.com and instructions for filling it out are all over the internet and this forum. It's essentially the same as buying a silencer. AFTER you get the approved form back and your $200 stamp you can buy and attach the butt stock. DO NOT BUY the stock before hand. That could be seen as constructive possession.

This is what your GSG-5 SBR could look like:

Ridge_Runner_5 · February 21, 2009, 03:09 AM

Getting a pistol and putting a stock on it after getting the stamp is far easier and cheaper than buying a rifle and cutting down the barrel and putting a muzzle device on it...

I had a rifle...

February 19, 2009, 09:19 PM	#1
P99AS9 Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 612	Thinking about $200 stamp to ATF fro GSG-5 I'm thinking about getting a GSG-5 pistol and attaching a stock onto it. I have never gone about dealing with a class 3 firearm and sending a $200 stamp to the ATF. Can somebody give me the steps on how to do this?

February 20, 2009, 07:32 AM	#3
Wiskey_33 Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2007 Location: The South Posts: 1,084	This is where I get confused. I've seen people put stocks onto pistols before, and they're making an AOW, but if you put a stock on an AR pistol, you've got an SBR? __________________ "I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders"-Uncle Ted

February 20, 2009, 08:27 AM	#4
Superhouse 15 Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2007 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 844	Almost If you put a stock on a pistol, or shorten a rifle barrel, you are still making a Short Barrelled Rifle (SBR). Same Form 1, same $200. I personally recommend establishing a Revocable Living Trust to do it. Fill out the Form 1 in duplicate, copy them to be 2-sided, and send in with a check, copies of the Trust info, and wait. Here's a link to the latest revision of the form. http://webpages.charter.net/mcfooter...-RevSept07.pdf

February 19, 2009, 10:01 PM	#2
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	i think you have to get the carbine and shorten it. I am not positive, and I admit such a rule makes no sense, but hey, that's gun laws. Step one would be to goto the ATF site and request the form.

February 20, 2009, 03:13 PM	#5
aroundlsu Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 156	REALLY, guys.. for the 3rd time this week.. if you don't understand the rules don't post opinions in this forum. It's mind boggling to see guys with 1500+ posts make blatantly wrong statements. Now onto the question and the RIGHT answer.. P99AS9, you want to complete a "Form 1" to manufacture a "Short Barrel Rifle". You can do that with the GSG-5 pistol. It's very easy. You can get the form from titleii.com and instructions for filling it out are all over the internet and this forum. It's essentially the same as buying a silencer. AFTER you get the approved form back and your $200 stamp you can buy and attach the butt stock. DO NOT BUY the stock before hand. That could be seen as constructive possession. This is what your GSG-5 SBR could look like:

February 21, 2009, 03:09 AM	#6
Ridge_Runner_5 Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,925	Getting a pistol and putting a stock on it after getting the stamp is far easier and cheaper than buying a rifle and cutting down the barrel and putting a muzzle device on it... I had a rifle...