The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Handguns: The Semi-automatic Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old August 14, 2014, 04:59 PM   #1
DA/SA Fan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 30, 2014
Location: Missouri
Posts: 661
Wow! Anybody looking for a .22 auto?

http://grabagun.com/catalog/product/...Evening+Deals!

Get em' while their hot!
__________________
"Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!"
CASTLE DOCTRINE STRONGLY ENFORCED
"Happiness is a warm gun"
DA/SA Fan is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 05:10 PM   #2
precision_shooter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 8, 2007
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 2,475
Maybe if it was a gun that was reliable with more than just CCI mini mags.... That's still not a good enough price for me to own a headache.
__________________
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, 1776
precision_shooter is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 05:22 PM   #3
RX-79G
Junior member
 
Join Date: October 27, 2013
Posts: 1,139
That's still more than those are worth. Zinc crap.
RX-79G is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 06:33 PM   #4
Big Shrek
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 6, 2009
Location: NorthWest Florida
Posts: 1,358
One of the few Sigs that has been full of FAIL.
__________________
Marlin Specialist
Calico Specialist
A gun should be a tool in the hands of a deadly weapon, not a deadly weapon in the hands of a tool.
Big Shrek is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 08:18 PM   #5
trigger643
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 22, 2011
Posts: 322
The gun was (is), made by GSG GmbH, but this in and of itself does not excuse my terrible ownership experience with this pistol.

Then again, L&O Group bought GSG in 2013.

L&O owns a number of high quality fire arms manufacturing firms, including Sig Sauer.

Perhaps they are fire saling the remaining POS inventory before they start anew with something worthy of the name...

naw. what was I thinking?
trigger643 is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 08:28 PM   #6
jimbob86
Junior member
 
Join Date: October 4, 2007
Location: All the way to NEBRASKA
Posts: 8,722
If I wanted a pot metal gun, I could get a Hi-Point, which would not only come with a lifetime warranty, it'd be signifigantly cheaper and come in a caliber that apparently does not have Unobtainium as a major component.
jimbob86 is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 08:32 PM   #7
gyvel
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 30, 2009
Location: Northern AZ
Posts: 7,172
Just say "NO" to Zamak.
__________________
As always, YMMV.
__________________________________________
MIIAA
SIFE
gyvel is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 08:50 PM   #8
SpareMag
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 7, 2012
Posts: 514
I love Sigs! I have Sigs. But the Mosquito has been charitably described as not one of Sigs best efforts.
SpareMag is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 09:02 PM   #9
WVsig
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 30, 2010
Location: NC
Posts: 5,309
You could not pay me $250 to take a Mosquito.....
__________________
-The right to be left alone is the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by free people.-Louis Brandeis
-Its a tool box... I don't care you put the tools in for the job that's all... -Sam from Ronin
-It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
WVsig is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 09:03 PM   #10
gyvel
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 30, 2009
Location: Northern AZ
Posts: 7,172
Quote:
You could not pay me $250 to take a Mosquito.....
Oh, sure I could. Then you could sell the Mosquito for $200.00 and end up with $450.00...
__________________
As always, YMMV.
__________________________________________
MIIAA
SIFE
gyvel is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 09:06 PM   #11
Walt Sherrill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 15, 1999
Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Posts: 6,348
Quote:
I love Sigs! I have Sigs. But the Mosquito has been charitably described as not one of Sigs best efforts.
Just because it has a SIG logo on it doesn't really make it a SIG. About all they contributed to this effort was their name.

They (SIG) blew it with this gun. It makes far more sense to get one of SIGs to which you can later add a SIG .22 top end. It'll cost more, but you'll end up with a gun that is a true SIG, with the SIG standards of quality and performance.
Walt Sherrill is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 09:28 PM   #12
Fishbed77
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 23, 2010
Posts: 4,862
My bother was given a Mosquito by a friend. He still paid too much for it.

As soon as the new box it came in was opened up, he found that the chintzy sights on the pistol were already broken.
Fishbed77 is offline  
Old August 14, 2014, 10:17 PM   #13
Yung.gunr
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 11, 2010
Location: Phoenix area
Posts: 1,442
For a .22lr auto I like my S&W 22a. It's about the same price too. Runs everything.
Yung.gunr is offline  
Old August 15, 2014, 01:16 PM   #14
Darker Loaf
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 25, 2012
Posts: 715
I've said this before, but my Mosquito was a lemon, and from what nigh everybody said theirs was too. Mine was not even reliable with CCI Round Nose Mini-Mags. I sold that sucker right quick.
Darker Loaf is offline  
Old August 15, 2014, 01:21 PM   #15
Venom1956
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 4, 2008
Location: WI
Posts: 3,656
Quote:
That's still more than those are worth. Zinc crap.
this.
__________________
E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that.
I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug
Venom1956 is offline  
Old August 15, 2014, 01:59 PM   #16
DA/SA Fan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 30, 2014
Location: Missouri
Posts: 661
Well, I see there is no luv for the mosquito! Maybe if they would have named it something else. I just saw the price on Grabagun and figured I'd "help" by posting it. Hve seen some decent reviews of it on youtube, but never really checked it out as I haven't been in the market for a .22 auto. Hope no one thinks I was endorsing this gun!
__________________
"Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!"
CASTLE DOCTRINE STRONGLY ENFORCED
"Happiness is a warm gun"
DA/SA Fan is offline  
Old August 15, 2014, 02:28 PM   #17
Marty8613
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 13, 2014
Location: Grapevine TX
Posts: 378
I was next to a guy last steel range trip that had one of these. It locked up tight as anything with a spent casing in it. Wouldn't open no matter what we tried. Worst failure I've ever seen personally.
Marty8613 is offline  
Old August 15, 2014, 02:40 PM   #18
Walt Sherrill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 15, 1999
Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Posts: 6,348
I have personally seen two owners shooting Mosquitos having problems when using their guns at the range; both had to stop and take their guns home.

It's the only .22 sold by a major company that seems to have a universally bad reputation. While other guns made by the same company seem to be pretty reliable, the SIG Mosquite seems different.

Don't be fooled by that SIG name -- it is NOT a SIG.

Last edited by Walt Sherrill; August 15, 2014 at 03:11 PM.
Walt Sherrill is offline  
Old August 15, 2014, 05:23 PM   #19
DonR
Member
 
Join Date: August 31, 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 34
Mosquito: May be worth the good price: with work...

If you have some basic mechanical aptitude, and can do so basic “home gun-smithing”, $225 for a Mosquito is a pretty good deal.

These desert tan types are selling for $350. I got one of the bad P.O.S. jam-o-matics. But I would not accept owning a .22 that would only cycle CCI expensive ammo reliably.

I moved forward with basic premise that no .22 I own will only be able to run reliably with only cci ammo. That is not acceptable. A .22 should run with any ammo in the 1100-1250 fps range, and ideally with the standard (sub-sonic) stuff that runs around 1050 fps. (Like my other .22s).

This is how I made my Sig Mosquito run reliably.

Note: these mods will void in your one year warranty and should not be undertaken unless you want to want to keep the gun, and are willing to accept that if you screw up the pistol you will probably not be able to sell it, and you may ruin it if you go overboard.

Note: these mods are not recommended by the manufacturer, will void your warranty, and some will advise may not even be safe.

Do at your own risk only if you can do them without ruining your pistol.

Listed in order of importance.

#1. Carefully polish and enlarge the entire length of the chamber to a shiny finish, loose enough that all fired .22 cases will flick/pull out easily using just your fingernails. (This is the secret).

IE: All unfired .22 ammo will be fairly loose and drop out by gravity.

#2. Chamfer and highly polish the feed ramp and chamber mouth.

#3. Take a dremel tool and some polish paste. Polish all slide surfaces and all metal sliding contact points engaged during cycle process of ammo firing, to as close to a mirror finish as you can get.

#4 Light oil only, no slide grease ever.

#5 Never use the heaviest spring.

#6, Smooth the top of the magazine and lips with very fine sandpaper.

My little Mosquito will now run any ammo (listed at about 1025 fps or above), lead or plated, any manufacturer, reliably in a range session, up to about 200 rounds.

At that point a copper brush in the bore and barrel, re-lube and light re-oiling is usually needed to keep shooting after about 200 rounds. It does not require pricey CCI ammo at all.

Note: with the fixed barrel, it is quite accurate, not as accurate as my Mark Target, but still pretty good. Has adjustable sights.

Bottom line: Full price at $350, I would say go with Ruger or Browning, but $230 shipped is pretty good. Also. You may get one which is not a lemon in the first place, and Sig will work on it for free for one year, but only if you have not altered anything at all. I have had mine about 5 years.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Sig.jpg (167.8 KB, 16 views)

Last edited by DonR; August 15, 2014 at 06:05 PM. Reason: typos
DonR is offline  
Old August 15, 2014, 07:43 PM   #20
gyvel
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 30, 2009
Location: Northern AZ
Posts: 7,172
Quote:
Well, I see there is no luv for the mosquito! Maybe if they would have named it something else.
I think it was aptly named, given how much aggravation a mosquito causes...

I stated in another thread that, all the people that I personally know who have one have had troubles with theirs, and I have been witness firsthand to some of those troubles.

The gun, unfortunately, is a loser.
__________________
As always, YMMV.
__________________________________________
MIIAA
SIFE

Last edited by gyvel; August 16, 2014 at 03:20 PM.
gyvel is offline  
Old August 15, 2014, 08:00 PM   #21
AK103K
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 1, 2001
Posts: 10,223
For once (actually twice, I have a Walther P22 as well), Im not one of the ones who has had troubles with mine.

Ive had both since they first came out, and were "new", and have never had any issues with them that isnt normal with other .22's. Other than the initial couple of hundred rounds, which I used Stingers and Mini Mags, most of what I shoot out of them is Winchester Super X, and simply because its what Ive had a lot of on hand.

I still have both, and shoot them a couple of times a year.

About the only thing I could complain about with the Mosquito is, the DA trigger is "different", especially compared to the full size SIG's, and takes some getting used to.
AK103K is offline  
Old August 16, 2014, 12:52 AM   #22
saleen322
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 8, 2010
Posts: 778
A quality .22 LR will cost more than 90% of the center fire pistols out there. If you go cheap you will be reminded anytime you shoot against good 22s. I do acknowledge that the Ruger MK series is a sort of exception to the rule as they provide a solid foundation for a good pistol for a low price. YMMV
saleen322 is offline  
Old August 16, 2014, 02:16 AM   #23
RX-79G
Junior member
 
Join Date: October 27, 2013
Posts: 1,139
Quote:
A quality .22 LR will cost more than 90% of the center fire pistols out there. If you go cheap you will be reminded anytime you shoot against good 22s. I do acknowledge that the Ruger MK series is a sort of exception to the rule as they provide a solid foundation for a good pistol for a low price. YMMV
So the Buckmark is more expensive than most centerfires, or poor quality?

This was once a very common type of relatively inexpensive pistol - Woodsmen, Cadet, High Standard, Neos, Extractor, 422, Nomad, etc. Many of those guns would perform right along with Beretta 87 Targets, Hammerlis, S&W 41, etc. So I really don't follow the distinction you're making.
RX-79G is offline  
Old August 16, 2014, 06:05 AM   #24
saleen322
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 8, 2010
Posts: 778
The Buckmark is fine but it is no Browning Medalist. If you want something to just plink with, you can go cheaper. If you want a performance level .22, that costs more......

saleen322 is offline  
Old August 16, 2014, 06:26 AM   #25
trigger643
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 22, 2011
Posts: 322
RX, I think we can read the implication as the Mosquito is not a quality handgun.

My experience with the Mosquito supports the notion it is not a quality gun.

As for the disappearance of affordable rimfire handguns, let's gander at some old advertisements...

In 1952 a New Ruger Mark I cost $57.50. Adjusted for inflation today that's $517.16.

In 1955, a Colt Sport Model (entry level Woodsman), was $69.40 and their .22 Officer Model Match revolver was $79.75. Adjusted for inflation that is $617.20 and $709.27.

In 1968 a Browning Nomad was $64.50. Today, adjusted for inflation, that's $441.76

To find a vintage ad of a .22 handgun of the quality level of the Mosquito, we need look no further than the Rohm RG-10. It cost $12.95 in 1960. In today's dollars that's $104.28.

If we take the same purchasing power over to Buda's instant on line gun warehouse and peruse their ads there appears to be quite an assortment of choices from makers like S&W, Browning, Ruger, etc...

The conclusions we can draw are 1. The Mosquito is overpriced. 2 The affordable 'quality' rimfire handguns continue to be a great value.

trigger643 is offline  
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.10634 seconds with 9 queries