30 grains safe in a 51?

kameron454ci · March 9, 2011, 09:41 PM

I'm hopefully getting a 51 soon and i have about 200 30gr pellits of pyrodex I want to use up i originally got them for my 58 but thats now my cartrige only gun would it be safe to use these up in the steel framed 51?

junkman_01 · March 9, 2011, 09:43 PM

If your '51 is a .44 then those Pyrodex pellets will work but they are on the upper end.

kameron454ci · March 9, 2011, 09:49 PM

yeah its a 44 i know its not the optimal load to use but I dont want them to go to waste

bighead46 · March 10, 2011, 04:44 PM

That would be on the high side. I think the Civil war load was 17 gr. of black.

Hawg · March 10, 2011, 04:58 PM

Quote:

That would be on the high side. I think the Civil war load was 17 gr. of black.

It varied from 17-26 for a .36 if I'm not mistaken but his is a .44. 30 grns. in a steel frame is fine but you'll get better performance from loose powder.

bighead46 · March 17, 2011, 01:46 PM

Sorry-you're right I hear Navy and keep thinking .36.

kameron454ci · March 23, 2011, 08:11 PM

got to shoot the 51 today the pellets are crap got about 40 rounds off and i dont think I ever got to shoot all six in a row had to use two caps on about 6-7 had one that never did go plus every third shot was a hang fire "click...pssst.....boom" some shots felt like a bomb went off and others felt like a bb gun why do these suck so bad?

kameron454ci · March 23, 2011, 08:20 PM

oh yeah this was with wonder wads rem #10 caps and hornady 454 balls

arcticap · March 23, 2011, 10:26 PM

Was the side with the coating of black powder inserted down facing the nipple?
If there was another problem then first dropping a tiny booster charge of loose powder into each chamber should have helped to ignite them.
This 52 second video shows how well they can work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGkxQ...layer_embedded

kameron454ci · March 24, 2011, 01:02 AM

mine look the same on both ends I have two cans of these things and they all look the same I dont see anything on the ends of the pellets

March 23, 2011, 08:11 PM	#7
kameron454ci Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: Montague. MI Posts: 85	got to shoot the 51 today the pellets are crap got about 40 rounds off and i dont think I ever got to shoot all six in a row had to use two caps on about 6-7 had one that never did go plus every third shot was a hang fire "click...pssst.....boom" some shots felt like a bomb went off and others felt like a bb gun why do these suck so bad? Last edited by kameron454ci; March 23, 2011 at 08:17 PM.

March 9, 2011, 09:41 PM	#1
kameron454ci Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: Montague. MI Posts: 85	30 grains safe in a 51? I'm hopefully getting a 51 soon and i have about 200 30gr pellits of pyrodex I want to use up i originally got them for my 58 but thats now my cartrige only gun would it be safe to use these up in the steel framed 51?

March 9, 2011, 09:43 PM	#2
junkman_01 Junior member Join Date: November 9, 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 260	If your '51 is a .44 then those Pyrodex pellets will work but they are on the upper end.

March 9, 2011, 09:49 PM	#3
kameron454ci Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: Montague. MI Posts: 85	yeah its a 44 i know its not the optimal load to use but I dont want them to go to waste

March 10, 2011, 04:44 PM	#4
bighead46 Senior Member Join Date: November 8, 2010 Posts: 140	That would be on the high side. I think the Civil war load was 17 gr. of black.

March 17, 2011, 01:46 PM	#6
bighead46 Senior Member Join Date: November 8, 2010 Posts: 140	Sorry-you're right I hear Navy and keep thinking .36.

March 23, 2011, 08:20 PM	#8
kameron454ci Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: Montague. MI Posts: 85	oh yeah this was with wonder wads rem #10 caps and hornady 454 balls

March 23, 2011, 10:26 PM	#9
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 3,166	Was the side with the coating of black powder inserted down facing the nipple? If there was another problem then first dropping a tiny booster charge of loose powder into each chamber should have helped to ignite them. This 52 second video shows how well they can work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGkxQ...layer_embedded

March 24, 2011, 01:02 AM	#10
kameron454ci Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: Montague. MI Posts: 85	mine look the same on both ends I have two cans of these things and they all look the same I dont see anything on the ends of the pellets