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September 6, 2017, 07:12 AM | #1 |
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Florida State of Emergency
Per the Governors declaring a state of emergency, Executive order 17-235 there is no mention of FL statutes 870.043 or 870.044 so conceal carry should not be an issue. CCW always depends on how the State of Emergency is worded here in FL and I would assume elsewhere in the US.
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September 6, 2017, 08:13 AM | #2 |
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One of the things (positive benefit) of declaring an emergency this far in advance is to make price gouging illegal.
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September 6, 2017, 08:30 AM | #3 |
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Florida has laws about that.
Gouging doesn't really exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9QEkw6_O6w
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September 6, 2017, 02:03 PM | #5 |
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when Katrina hit the cops went around collecting guns
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Aguila Blanca's warning against rash assumptions applies here as well.
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Chris, yes FL does have anti-gouging laws for declared emergencies. However, there can be loopholes which people don't realize.
For example, if you go into a FL hotel and look at their "official" room rates (frequently posted on the back of the room door) you'll see that the rates are outrageously high. Of course, normal guests always pay a "discounted" rate. One reason they do that is that during any kind of emergency, they can suspend all "discounts" and charge those full rates without violating any law. |
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I'm certain there are loopholes, but my main point is simply that the crime of "gouging" during a disaster is in fact a thing.
The assertion that gouging doesn't exist, based on what laissez-faire capitalist theory says about proper operation of the free market, is a red herring. One may certainly argue that the crime is unjust, but this does not change the fact that it is a crime in certain states.
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Watch the video and you'll see why it isn't.
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Evidently, by me assuming that the way a Governor words a State of Emergency in ANY state would effect the CCW laws like it does here in Florida. Next time I'll try to do better as the Governor did here in 2015 with a statute about CCW while under mandatory evacuation
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He goes on to argue that the practice is moral and reasonable due to free-market principles, and that anti-gouging laws should be repealed because they're counterproductive even if you're convinced that the practice is immoral (3:40 to 4:45). However, he NEVER asserts that the practice isn't a prosecutable offense.
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