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View Poll Results: How many guns do you carry?
1 gun 101 31.56%
1 gun and a reload(s) 121 37.81%
2 guns 41 12.81%
2 guns and reloads for each 41 12.81%
I'm a walking arsenal... 16 5.00%
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Old September 18, 2008, 03:14 PM   #26
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I don't really understand the reasoning for carrying more than one gun (especially 3?!?). Honestly, unless you are in the military or are a leo of some kind, I can't imagine a situation that would warrant 2 or 3 carry guns. Can someone point out a documented case were a citizen was forced to fire more than one gun LEGALLY in a self defense case?
If anything, I would think that carrying 3 guns and mace and a couple knives and a baton (just in case ) would be detrimental to your case if you ever had to actually use your weapon.
It seams to me that if you had to go up in front of a jury, many would wonder why on earth someone would need to carry around that much firepower, unless they were looking to start trouble (and that would be a reasonable question too..)
So, if your primary carry gun seems insufficient to you, why don't you just replace it with one that fits your needs better?
I'll try to enlighten you, bear with me.

I carry more than one gun for two reasons. The first reason is, it's a faster reload, even with an Autoloader, to draw a second gun than to try and sove bullets into an empty gun. This holds true even if I'm using an Autoloader.

Most likely I will not need to reload even a Revolver in an off duty encounter, but one never knows for sure. The other and more important reason for carrying multiple guns is to have a gun available no matter which hand I have available to draw with.

If something happens I may be busy using my stronghand to push a loved one out of the way, it may be "pinned" by the badguy in an "up close and personal" encounter or I may be shot in my gunhand. Thus I have a gun available to the weakhand.

While having a gun available to both hands I also may not be able to draw quickly, thus a gun on the ankle. This is really "handy" when driving and car-jacking is a possiblity, or when I'm sitting down in a chair. The gun in the pocket is nice when walking across a parking lot. I can have my hand on a gun without anybody knowing.

No, I'm not Rambo. I'm just somebody that has had to use his BUG before while his stronghand busy deflecting a blade. We each make our own choices and do what we consider is appropriate. Of three "Armed Encounters" only one has been "On Duty".


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Old September 18, 2008, 11:13 PM   #27
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I always have my backup with me, the P32. Even when I have my primary.
+1, but mine is a P3AT

If it's not shorts weather and I don't plan on any athletics, my P-11 goes on the ankle. The ankle gun is primary while seated, such as while driving, dining, or movie going. The mouse gun in the front pocket becomes primary while upright (with the added advantage of being able to get a shooting grip on the gun while it's concealed--which makes for a fast presentation).

When I have occasion to wear a sports jacket or suit, I usually feel compelled to carry my BBQ 1911 strongside IWB with a pair of ten rounders on the off side. The pocket .380 always comes along, and sometimes so does the ankle gun, which would seem to cross into "walking arsenal". If I feel up to it, sometimes I replace the Kel-tec on the ankle with my Detonics, so that my spare 1911 mags work in both primary and ankle gun.

I am simply stating the obvious.
S832, there's a robert Heinlein quote that applies here....

At any rate, while I'm totally comfortable mowing the lawn or taking out the trash with a .380 in the pocket and no reloads, I've seen enough inoportune weapons malfunctions to beleive that "two is one and one is none" as Clint Smith puts it. Heck, if I could afford it, I wouldn't carry any guns: I'd roll in an armored Mercedes and let my body guards carry the iron.
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Old September 19, 2008, 01:42 AM   #28
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Off Duty

Off duty,

I carry either a Glock 19 with one extra magazine or two and a Kel tec P3at.

Summertime, a Kahr CW9, with two magazines and the P3at.

On duty, the Glock or a S & W 1911, two extra magazines, Remington 870,
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Old September 19, 2008, 02:46 AM   #29
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On Duty I have more weapons to choose from.

Handgun with 2 reloads.
M4 with 2 (30 Round Magazine) Reloads
Shotgun with Sidesaddle

I also have radio communication and back-up near-by. I don't have these things, especially the back-up, when I'm off duty. Why should I limit myself when I'm off duty? That's when it's more critical to have the "tools". I intend to make it home from wherever the heck I am, and I will do so alive if I have any say in the matter.

I have been in a situation off duty where I have needed my BUG, because my strongarm was busy deflecting a blade. Some of you are fine with carrying just one gun, that's fine by me. I'm not limited in what I carry off duty, as long as it's concealed.

Those of you that think I'm paranoid, no, I just don't see the world through "rose colored glasses" and realize that there are monsters in this world.

I'm done with this thread and I'm going to check and see if there is an "Ignore" button for a certain person because they have obviously proven that they don't have sense to come in out of the rain.


PS: Me thinks this person is really an "Anti-Gunner" trying to attack us from within.
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Old September 19, 2008, 05:56 AM   #30
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My Sig Compact C3 45 acp with one reload - At times, I throw my Minimag 22mag NAA in pocket holster for added security - Usually not, though
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Old September 19, 2008, 06:05 AM   #31
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how many?

Most of the time I carry only one with reloads, but I prefer to have two as you never know as to which way the threat will come from or when. My wife thought I was nuts until a man was shot and killed just four houses down from us one week and another was robbed in broad daylight and stabbed the next week, and we live in a halfway good neighborhood. As was stated here and by my grandfather (better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it) words to live by. My grand dad was a pretty smart old man.

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Old September 19, 2008, 08:02 AM   #32
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Most of the time I'll only carry a single firearm with reloads in case Mr. Murphy intervenes. Typically, a 1911 or a single-stack 9mm pistol or a J-frame is all I think I need.

There are times, however, when a small BUG might be slipped into a jacket pocket or an IWB holster under a jacket if I'll be out during the "witching hours" (after 11pm).

Why carry a 2nd gun? Several reasons. If you carry strong side, you can't covertly prepare for action when you see that you will need to walk past a pair or trio of loitering younger males. Reaching for that hip holster will be called "brandishing" in many jurisdictions (and may actually spark an incident). Your hand reaching into a jacket pocket as if for keys is less obvious.

What's that? Just "go around" them or take a different route? That's advisable, IF it can be done. It's much less workable when the subjects are hanging around just outside the establishment you're in or if they are close to your vehicle.
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Old September 19, 2008, 08:33 AM   #33
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When I carry my Wilson Combat 4" Professional, I back it up with my Taurus PT-145. When I carry my Browning Hi-Power it is backed up by my Kel-Tec PF-9. I have always thought it prudent to have a backup in the same caliber so if extra ammo is needed one can shoot the other's. Just my humble opinion.
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Old September 19, 2008, 09:33 AM   #34
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You put a Big hi cap auto in your glove box. you put a small one( 380, 9mm or similar size) on your person.

Anything else is some paranoia seeping in. The reality is you have more chance of winning the lottery than using a gun in self defense.

Yes, it is good to be prepared, I am. But the multiple mags, guns strapped everywhere on your body, Mini 14 behind the seat, is a bit overboard. Well a lot overboard.

To each his own, just my opinion. Be prepared, but no need to be a walking swat unit. One gun on your body, and another in the car will take care of your person and property when out and about.
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Old September 19, 2008, 11:07 AM   #35
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1 gun

I carry one gun, no reloads when I do carry, which is not every day. I realize some live in areas that present a higher element of risk, however I do not. I could not afford the legal defense associated with a "29 Ninjas" scenario.
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Old September 19, 2008, 05:25 PM   #36
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It used to be two guns and a reload for each. Since that's how I did it longest, that is how I answered. Unfortunately I had to make the tough decision to part with one of my pistols recently, and now it is just one pistol with a reload.
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Old September 19, 2008, 10:01 PM   #37
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"Pre-Insulting" everyone who disagrees with you is not a valid/polite debate technique. Hypothetical example: "Anyone who doesn't share my views/agree with my statements is paranoid/mentally deficient/oblivious and shouldn't carry a gun/should be locked up."

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Old September 19, 2008, 10:25 PM   #38
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two 1911 colt .45s. on my person. start a thread on what we caryy in our cars with us and ill give a longer response.

its been mentioned on the forum that if you ever do actually need a gun it will be the one thing you have needed most ever before in your life...i will add to that and say that if you ever need a SECOND gun it will be DOUBLY the most needed item ever in your life.
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Old September 22, 2008, 02:10 AM   #39
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My primary is a full size 1911 in a crossdraw holster,if I know Im going into a bad section of town or a place I never been then my J frame gets put on in a IWB holster @ 5 oclock,if someone asks for my wallet they get it.
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Old September 22, 2008, 01:27 PM   #40
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2 guns with reloads for each. I doubt I'd ever need that but in the words of burt gummer "if you need it and don't have it, you sing a whole different tune."

I'm that way with just about everything. people tell me all the time if I took the tools, shovels, 60 inch hi-lift jack, ect. out of my blazer I could pick up some mileage and have room to haul stuff. but everytime I've ever gotten stuck, or broken down, or something else I've never thought I'd need that stuff.

it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
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Old September 22, 2008, 04:12 PM   #41
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Ruger SP101 daily...5 357 JHP's for sure will do the job.
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Old September 22, 2008, 04:37 PM   #42
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Did I also mention I carry a tank, you know, just in case the Russians invade... I mean its better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it...

Point being just carry what you are comfortable with... Any one of us could have weapons go down and need backups, but if you aren't comfortable carrying it every day, then whats the point? We are carrying to defend our life, but not at the expense of letting it run/ruin/change our lives... Whether its 5 guns, 1 gun, or no guns... if you feel happy then no one in the world should be able to tell you you are over or under prepared...

Which is why I have nothing against someone who wont carry. Its not for everyone, much like carrying 2 or 3 or 4 guns isnt for everyone...
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Old September 22, 2008, 07:44 PM   #43
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well first off the cold war's over so I don't think we need to worry about the reds anymore, though if I could drive(not carry) a tank I would but not because I'm worried about red dawn coming to life

and there are other valid reasons to carry a BUG other than the possibility of a malfunction, like not being able to reach your primary for whatever reason

and I never criticized anyone's decision on what they carry so why do it to me?
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Old September 22, 2008, 08:40 PM   #44
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well first off the cold war's over
we may be entering another cold warsoon though,(maybe even a hot war) but then again let me save that for Political
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Old September 22, 2008, 09:03 PM   #45
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In addition to the notion of a BUG, the big reason why I carry two is to balance my clothing out for both comfort and concealment. Whether its shorts or pants with cargo pockets or a jacket, there's one on the right side and one on the left, avoiding tell-tale drooping of clothing. My match-ups are either my S&W 649 .38 and my PPKS in .380, or my Beretta Bobcat .22 with my Kel-tec .32.

In the winter, when you can get away with wearing a jacket in Arizona, I will sometimes have a more serious weapon concealed on the belt, namely my Colt Officer's model, but will still carry the other two.
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Old September 25, 2008, 05:58 AM   #46
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I carry only one and sometimes a reload.

Summer time –
Kahr K9 7+1
S&W .38 snubbie 5 shot

Winter time –
PT1911 8+1
G29 10+1

Statistically that’s all I should ever need as a civilian. If I happen to be the exception then I guess the big guy upstairs is telling me my time is up.
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Old September 25, 2008, 06:40 AM   #47
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Two guns sometimes. Second gun is faster than a reload. I carry sp101s. So before you think I'm paranoid, realize that I still only have 10 rounds. Some of you boys have more than that in 1 magazine.
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Old September 25, 2008, 08:46 AM   #48
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Ben Shepherd wrote: Two guns sometimes. Second gun is faster than a reload.
I also voted two guns for the same reasons Ben shared.

My situation varies. I am in NPEs (non-permissive environments) and some of these have dawgs, metal detectors and folks that pat you down ...

Then I am in situations where one gun is fine, where I prefer two, even three...
Then I might have a shotgun, or lever action in the vehicle...

ADEE is what I subscribe to being a civilian , so my goal is arrive back home at the end of my day, with all my parts, and not having had to use a gun, or anything to defend myself.

Problem 2 is real, and I really don't want to have mess with it either.


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Old September 25, 2008, 11:56 PM   #49
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I voted for one gun and a reload. Lots of times though - and especially in the Winter - I will carry two pistols. I always have a reload for my primary! I may, or may not, have a reload for the BUG.

Moving clockwise around my waist my belt usually looks like: keys, pistol, folding knife, extra magazine, and cell phone. If I'm carrying a BUG it'll be in my support side front pocket. If I'm carrying a pair of reloads for the BUG they'll be in a small pouch in my strong side front pocket. In cold or wet weather, the BUG gets moved to an outside jacket pocket.

For the past 5 years my primary has been an IWB G-21. (You learn to live with the bulk and the weight. Nowadays, if that weight isn't there I feel naked!)
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Old September 26, 2008, 07:48 AM   #50
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I always carry at least 2 guns. In warmer weather, there is a NAA mini-revolver (.22LR) in my RF pants pocket and a Taurus PT111 in a fanny pack. In cooler weather, either the PT111 or a S & W 642 is in a DeSantis Nemesis in my left inside jacket pocket. When it's cold enough for a sweater, the PT111 or 642 are in a OWB belt holster.
While working, a Taurus 85 rides along in my briefcase and gets locked in my desk.
When out at night, the NAA goes in the LF pants pocket and a Kel-Tec .32 or .380 is in the RF pants pocket, and the .38 or 9x19 are in the jacket, fanny pack or belt holster. The Kel-Tec can easily be switched from pants pocket to shirt pocket and vice versa when getting into or out of a car, so that hands-on resource is always available.
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