Disheartening

deerslayer303 · December 31, 2015, 06:11 PM

I just found out Green Mountain is no longer making drop in Barrels for the TC Hawken. I SO wanted a roundball barrel for my beloved Hawken.

Model12Win · December 31, 2015, 06:24 PM

Looks like it's time for you to buy a REAL Hawken, made to shoot roundballs just like the originals, not the modern CVA bastardization of the Hawken name:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Peder...fle/706019.uts

noelf2 · December 31, 2015, 06:38 PM

My TC Hawken was the second black powder rifle I bought. Got it in the 70's when I was 16. They only had round ball barrels in them back then (AFAIK). I think mine is a 1 in 66. What is yours deerslayer? 1 in 48?

Hawg · December 31, 2015, 06:57 PM

Not as accurate a rendition as the Pedersoli but closer than the TC's, CVA's and Investarms and cheaper than the Perdersoli is the Lyman Great Plains with a 1:60 twist.

Model12Win · December 31, 2015, 07:54 PM

[IMG]Not as accurate a rendition as the Pedersoli but closer than the TC's, CVA's and Investarms and cheaper than the Perdersoli is the Lyman Great Plains with a 1:60 twist.[/IMG]

+1.

After the Pedersoli, the Lyman GPR is the most authentic bang for your buck "Hawken" style rifle out there... that actually closely resembles a real Hawken, not a modern day ignoramus pretend Hawken.

Hawg · December 31, 2015, 08:23 PM

The TC's etc. do have somewhat of a basis in history. They strongly resemble trade rifles from the mid 1870's. They could have called them something besides a Hawken which they don't resemble at all.

**4V50 Gary** · December 31, 2015, 08:24 PM

Barrels are easy to get and installing a rib, underlugs, thimbles/pipes isn't hard. Getting that tang and drum is the key.

deerslayer303 · December 31, 2015, 09:03 PM

Yeah my TC is 1:48. It does okay with roundball just not as good as a GPR, which I have also. I just LOVE the style of a TC Hawken they are beautiful in my eyes. I just DONT shoot Conicals out of my rifles. I like slinging roundball. The GPR is .54 and the TC is a .50. So I may just get a barrel blank and git er done.

Pahoo · January 3, 2016, 11:39 AM

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They could have called them something besides a Hawken which they don't resemble at all.

Well, at first TC did not mark them with "any" name. Later they did refer to them as the Hawken -Model as well as other manufacturers and believe me, there were a bunch of them. TC and most others just wanted to show that their models were, "In-The Spirit" and by my measure, that is acceptable. This is your measure to make as well. .....

By the way, Jake and Sam never made a Hawken model, it was referred to as the Great Plaines Rifle and most of their rifles were 1:48. So "perhaps", Lyman ",might" deserve more criticism by some. I sure done have a problem. ....

Be Equitable and;
Be Safe

Hawg · January 3, 2016, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Jake and Sam never made a Hawken model,

It was called a Hawken because it had their name on it.

December 31, 2015, 06:11 PM	#1
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	Disheartening I just found out Green Mountain is no longer making drop in Barrels for the TC Hawken. I SO wanted a roundball barrel for my beloved Hawken.

December 31, 2015, 06:38 PM	#3
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	My TC Hawken was the second black powder rifle I bought. Got it in the 70's when I was 16. They only had round ball barrels in them back then (AFAIK). I think mine is a 1 in 66. What is yours deerslayer? 1 in 48? __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

December 31, 2015, 08:24 PM	#7
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,832	Barrels are easy to get and installing a rib, underlugs, thimbles/pipes isn't hard. Getting that tang and drum is the key. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

December 31, 2015, 06:24 PM	#2
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Looks like it's time for you to buy a REAL Hawken, made to shoot roundballs just like the originals, not the modern CVA bastardization of the Hawken name: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Peder...fle/706019.uts

December 31, 2015, 06:57 PM	#4
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Not as accurate a rendition as the Pedersoli but closer than the TC's, CVA's and Investarms and cheaper than the Perdersoli is the Lyman Great Plains with a 1:60 twist.

December 31, 2015, 07:54 PM	#5
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	[IMG]Not as accurate a rendition as the Pedersoli but closer than the TC's, CVA's and Investarms and cheaper than the Perdersoli is the Lyman Great Plains with a 1:60 twist.[/IMG] +1. After the Pedersoli, the Lyman GPR is the most authentic bang for your buck "Hawken" style rifle out there... that actually closely resembles a real Hawken, not a modern day ignoramus pretend Hawken.

December 31, 2015, 08:23 PM	#6
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	The TC's etc. do have somewhat of a basis in history. They strongly resemble trade rifles from the mid 1870's. They could have called them something besides a Hawken which they don't resemble at all.

December 31, 2015, 09:03 PM	#8
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	Yeah my TC is 1:48. It does okay with roundball just not as good as a GPR, which I have also. I just LOVE the style of a TC Hawken they are beautiful in my eyes. I just DONT shoot Conicals out of my rifles. I like slinging roundball. The GPR is .54 and the TC is a .50. So I may just get a barrel blank and git er done.