CCW-Will it pass today in WI???

SMITH910 · January 31, 2006, 09:00 AM

So TODAY is the final step in the process of getting CCW passed here......finally. out of the 100 assembly people - 66 are needed to override the governers VETO. They are saying like 2 members are on the fence and haven't voiced what they will vote for. It will be decided or not on 1 vote or so. 64 or 65 have said they will override it. It will be close and it starts at 11am. Please say a prayer or something so that this state can break free of its 133 year ban on this issue and we can protect ourselfs and loved ones (legally) if need be. I won't lie, I lost a little sleep over this last night.

New_Master · January 31, 2006, 09:11 AM

mna, i hope so. and I hope minnesota people can use theirs in that state !

Petre · January 31, 2006, 09:17 AM

Yeah I hope it will pass too. IF it does there still a lot that will be necessary. I can't wait to see what hoops they make us jump through to get a CCW if it passes. The first issues should be interesting.

yorec · January 31, 2006, 12:44 PM

Prayers for freedom.

New_Master · January 31, 2006, 02:54 PM

any one find out if it did pass ?

LotI · January 31, 2006, 03:00 PM

currently in partisan caucus. The dems are worried or it would have been voted right away.

Listen in, stay updated or check it out.

WI state legislature.

tulsamal · January 31, 2006, 03:33 PM

Nope.

Failed to override.

Sorry.

Petre · January 31, 2006, 03:46 PM

ARE YOU SERIOUS ?!?

SMITH910 · January 31, 2006, 03:57 PM

What a crock. Channel 6 news last night took a poll. 84% said yes to PPA, and only14% voted no. The biggest disparancy of numbers they ever had. Boy am I pi$$ed.

waterhouse · January 31, 2006, 04:05 PM

Missed by two votes:

AYES - 64 NAYS - 34 NOT VOTING - 1 PAIRED - 0

A N NV NAME
Y AINSWORTH R
Y ALBERS R
Y BALLWEG R
N BENEDICT D
N BERCEAU D
Y BIES R
N BLACK D
N BOYLE D
N COLON D
N CULLEN D
Y DAVIS R
N FIELDS D
Y FITZGERALD R
Y FREESE R
Y FRISKE R
Y GIELOW R
Y GOTTLIEB R
N GRIGSBY D
Y GRONEMUS D
Y GUNDERSON R
Y GUNDRUM R
Y HAHN R
N HEBL D
Y HINES R
Y HONADEL R
Y HUBLER D
Y HUEBSCH R
Y HUNDERTMARK R
Y JENSEN R
Y JESKEWITZ R
Y KAUFERT R
Y KERKMAN R
N KESSLER D
A N NV NAME
Y KESTELL R
Y KLEEFISCH R
Y KRAWCZYK R
Y KREIBICH R
N KREUSER D
N KRUSICK D
Y LAMB R
Y LASEE R
N LEHMAN D
Y LEMAHIEU R
Y LOEFFELHOLZ R
Y LOTHIAN R
Y MCCORMICK R
Y MEYER R
N MOLEPSKE D
Y MONTGOMERY R
Y MOULTON R
Y MURSAU R
Y MUSSER R
Y NASS R
N NELSON D
Y NERISON R
Y NEWCOMER R
Y NISCHKE R
Y OTT R
Y OWENS R
x PARISI D
Y PETROWSKI R
Y PETTIS R
N POCAN D
N POPE-ROBERTS D
Y PRIDEMORE R
Y RHOADES R
A N NV NAME
N RICHARDS D
Y SCHNEIDER D
N SEIDEL D
N SHERIDAN D
N SHERMAN D
N SHILLING D
N SINICKI D
N STASKUNAS D
N STEINBRINK D
Y STONE R
Y STRACHOTA R
Y SUDER R
N TOLES D
Y TOWNS R
Y TOWNSEND R
N TRAVIS D
N TURNER D
Y UNDERHEIM R
N VAN AKKEREN D
Y VAN ROY R
Y VOS R
Y VRUWINK D
Y VUKMIR R
Y WARD R
N WASSERMAN D
Y WIECKERT R
N WILLIAMS, A. D
Y WILLIAMS, M. R
Y WOOD R
N YOUNG D
N ZEPNICK D
N ZIEGELBAUER D
Y SPEAKER R

texdawg · January 31, 2006, 04:08 PM

dang shame

Petre · January 31, 2006, 04:20 PM

2 votes short of 2 thirds .... :barf:

Great system we have right there.

kennybs plbg · January 31, 2006, 04:38 PM

Democrats must be proud, all but 3 voted no and every Republican voted yes.
Tell us again how there's no differance between the party's, they're just names.

kenny b

kennybs plbg · January 31, 2006, 04:43 PM

Democrats must be proud, all but 3 voted no and every Republican voted yes.
Tell us again how there's no differance between the party's, they're just names.

kenny b

kennybs plbg · January 31, 2006, 04:45 PM

Democrats must be proud, all but 3 voted no and every Republican voted yes.
Tell us again how there's no differance between the party's, they're just names.

kenny b

bclark1 · January 31, 2006, 04:46 PM

oh how i love paying exorbitant taxes to two of the four states that defecate on the constitution.

kennybs plbg · January 31, 2006, 04:50 PM

sorry about the triple post, maybe someone could remove them, I tried but it just reposted again.

kenny b

rex · January 31, 2006, 09:02 PM

I feel you pain with having anti-gun politicians controlling your state. Here in Illinois we can only hope that one day soon Mayor Daley and Governor Blagoievich will be out of office. I was really hoping that Wisconsin would get their CCW law passed, every state that gets it just shows the few remaining without it how ridiculous it all is. The only thing we can do is to continue to vote against legislators who vote for gun control.

slystad810 · January 31, 2006, 09:28 PM

You all are welcome in Michigan!

Good luck finding a job though

Ronny · January 31, 2006, 10:37 PM

If I were you, I'd take the family on an "exodus" to a state that honors the 2nd Ammendment. Tell me again how not allowing law abiding citizens to bear arms is not an infringement of this right.

GlocksRfun · February 1, 2006, 02:46 AM

yup, sad sad day here in wisconsin.. The funny thing is, the 2 votes we were short, the democrats that voted for it in 2003 and also voted to override veto in 2003.. but now in 06, the vote against it. If I could use any words on this site,.. I'd go off for like 27 paragraphs about all my thoughts on that. All I can say is I'm gonna vote republican all across the board... Even if we get a pro-gun governor, if we loose the republicans controling the houses, we'll never get a vote on it, kinda like what happened in,. 02 was it.. Feel free to check out wisconsin concealed carry organization i think it's called.. Do a search for wisconsin concealed carry, u'll see it.. Tehy thell the story a lot better than i just did..

cheddar · February 1, 2006, 03:18 AM

yep...this is dumb...

lots of good info here:
packing.org <------when it works

Petre · February 1, 2006, 08:02 AM

All these idiots just did was make criminals safer and law abiding citizens criminals if they decide to exercise their constitutional right to arm themselves.

Cause , I'm sure by doing this that the criminals will leave their guns at home now.

Maybe all gun owners of Wisconsin should buy leg holsters and start walking around out in the open with their gun ... THAT's LEGAL in Wisconsin , even though it would cause much more tension among citizens and with law enforcement. Frickin idiots.

Time for me to go buy a S&W 460 XVR and a holster and walk around with that thing hanging down to my knee ... that'd go over REAL good I'm sure.

And though I'd scare every man woman and child in the area and probably draw gun's pointed at me from Police ... I'd be LEGAL.

bclark1 · February 1, 2006, 12:28 PM

does anyone here ever actually open carry in WI?

Trip20 · February 1, 2006, 01:16 PM

No. But I'm now considering it.

January 31, 2006, 09:00 AM	#1
SMITH910 Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2005 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 282	CCW-Will it pass today in WI??? So TODAY is the final step in the process of getting CCW passed here......finally. out of the 100 assembly people - 66 are needed to override the governers VETO. They are saying like 2 members are on the fence and haven't voiced what they will vote for. It will be decided or not on 1 vote or so. 64 or 65 have said they will override it. It will be close and it starts at 11am. Please say a prayer or something so that this state can break free of its 133 year ban on this issue and we can protect ourselfs and loved ones (legally) if need be. I won't lie, I lost a little sleep over this last night.

January 31, 2006, 09:17 AM	#3
Petre Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 634	Yeah I hope it will pass too. IF it does there still a lot that will be necessary. I can't wait to see what hoops they make us jump through to get a CCW if it passes. The first issues should be interesting. __________________ DOCTORS A The number of Doctors in the U.S. is approximately 700,000 B Accidental deaths caused by Doctors per year average 120,000 or 0.171 per Doctor GUNS A The number of legal gun owners in the U.S. is currently over 80,000,000 B The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1500 or .000188 per gun owner Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000x more dangerous than gun owners Remember, Guns don't kill people, DOCTORS do

January 31, 2006, 12:44 PM	#4
yorec Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2000 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,328	Prayers for freedom. __________________ What part of "... shall not be infringed..." don't you understand?

January 31, 2006, 03:00 PM	#6
LotI Member Join Date: April 19, 2005 Location: America's Dairyland Posts: 47	currently in partisan caucus. The dems are worried or it would have been voted right away. Listen in, stay updated or check it out. WI state legislature. __________________ <insert witty signature here>

January 31, 2006, 03:46 PM	#8
Petre Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 634	ARE YOU SERIOUS ?!? __________________ DOCTORS A The number of Doctors in the U.S. is approximately 700,000 B Accidental deaths caused by Doctors per year average 120,000 or 0.171 per Doctor GUNS A The number of legal gun owners in the U.S. is currently over 80,000,000 B The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1500 or .000188 per gun owner Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000x more dangerous than gun owners Remember, Guns don't kill people, DOCTORS do

January 31, 2006, 09:11 AM	#2
New_Master Member Join Date: January 28, 2006 Posts: 64	mna, i hope so. and I hope minnesota people can use theirs in that state !

January 31, 2006, 02:54 PM	#5
New_Master Member Join Date: January 28, 2006 Posts: 64	any one find out if it did pass ?

January 31, 2006, 03:33 PM	#7
tulsamal Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2004 Location: Vinita, OK Posts: 2,552	Nope. Failed to override. Sorry.

January 31, 2006, 03:57 PM	#9
SMITH910 Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2005 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 282	What a crock. Channel 6 news last night took a poll. 84% said yes to PPA, and only14% voted no. The biggest disparancy of numbers they ever had. Boy am I pi$$ed.

January 31, 2006, 04:05 PM	#10
waterhouse Senior Member Join Date: February 1, 2005 Posts: 169	Missed by two votes: AYES - 64 NAYS - 34 NOT VOTING - 1 PAIRED - 0 A N NV NAME Y AINSWORTH R Y ALBERS R Y BALLWEG R N BENEDICT D N BERCEAU D Y BIES R N BLACK D N BOYLE D N COLON D N CULLEN D Y DAVIS R N FIELDS D Y FITZGERALD R Y FREESE R Y FRISKE R Y GIELOW R Y GOTTLIEB R N GRIGSBY D Y GRONEMUS D Y GUNDERSON R Y GUNDRUM R Y HAHN R N HEBL D Y HINES R Y HONADEL R Y HUBLER D Y HUEBSCH R Y HUNDERTMARK R Y JENSEN R Y JESKEWITZ R Y KAUFERT R Y KERKMAN R N KESSLER D A N NV NAME Y KESTELL R Y KLEEFISCH R Y KRAWCZYK R Y KREIBICH R N KREUSER D N KRUSICK D Y LAMB R Y LASEE R N LEHMAN D Y LEMAHIEU R Y LOEFFELHOLZ R Y LOTHIAN R Y MCCORMICK R Y MEYER R N MOLEPSKE D Y MONTGOMERY R Y MOULTON R Y MURSAU R Y MUSSER R Y NASS R N NELSON D Y NERISON R Y NEWCOMER R Y NISCHKE R Y OTT R Y OWENS R x PARISI D Y PETROWSKI R Y PETTIS R N POCAN D N POPE-ROBERTS D Y PRIDEMORE R Y RHOADES R A N NV NAME N RICHARDS D Y SCHNEIDER D N SEIDEL D N SHERIDAN D N SHERMAN D N SHILLING D N SINICKI D N STASKUNAS D N STEINBRINK D Y STONE R Y STRACHOTA R Y SUDER R N TOLES D Y TOWNS R Y TOWNSEND R N TRAVIS D N TURNER D Y UNDERHEIM R N VAN AKKEREN D Y VAN ROY R Y VOS R Y VRUWINK D Y VUKMIR R Y WARD R N WASSERMAN D Y WIECKERT R N WILLIAMS, A. D Y WILLIAMS, M. R Y WOOD R N YOUNG D N ZEPNICK D N ZIEGELBAUER D Y SPEAKER R __________________ FFL transfers in Pflugerville, TX for $10.00, email me

January 31, 2006, 04:08 PM	#11
texdawg Member Join Date: January 12, 2006 Location: Big D Posts: 56	dang shame

January 31, 2006, 04:20 PM	#12
Petre Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 634	2 votes short of 2 thirds .... :barf: Great system we have right there. __________________ DOCTORS A The number of Doctors in the U.S. is approximately 700,000 B Accidental deaths caused by Doctors per year average 120,000 or 0.171 per Doctor GUNS A The number of legal gun owners in the U.S. is currently over 80,000,000 B The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1500 or .000188 per gun owner Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000x more dangerous than gun owners Remember, Guns don't kill people, DOCTORS do

January 31, 2006, 04:38 PM	#13
kennybs plbg Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Hemet, Ca. Posts: 524	Democrats must be proud, all but 3 voted no and every Republican voted yes. Tell us again how there's no differance between the party's, they're just names. kenny b

January 31, 2006, 04:43 PM	#14
kennybs plbg Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Hemet, Ca. Posts: 524	Democrats must be proud, all but 3 voted no and every Republican voted yes. Tell us again how there's no differance between the party's, they're just names. kenny b

January 31, 2006, 04:45 PM	#15
kennybs plbg Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Hemet, Ca. Posts: 524	Democrats must be proud, all but 3 voted no and every Republican voted yes. Tell us again how there's no differance between the party's, they're just names. kenny b

January 31, 2006, 04:46 PM	#16
bclark1 Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,531	oh how i love paying exorbitant taxes to two of the four states that defecate on the constitution.

January 31, 2006, 04:50 PM	#17
kennybs plbg Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Hemet, Ca. Posts: 524	sorry about the triple post, maybe someone could remove them, I tried but it just reposted again. kenny b

January 31, 2006, 09:02 PM	#18
rex Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 147	I feel for my neighbors to the North. I feel you pain with having anti-gun politicians controlling your state. Here in Illinois we can only hope that one day soon Mayor Daley and Governor Blagoievich will be out of office. I was really hoping that Wisconsin would get their CCW law passed, every state that gets it just shows the few remaining without it how ridiculous it all is. The only thing we can do is to continue to vote against legislators who vote for gun control.

January 31, 2006, 09:28 PM	#19
slystad810 Senior Member Join Date: August 15, 2005 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 119	You all are welcome in Michigan! Good luck finding a job though

January 31, 2006, 10:37 PM	#20
Ronny Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2005 Posts: 206	If I were you, I'd take the family on an "exodus" to a state that honors the 2nd Ammendment. Tell me again how not allowing law abiding citizens to bear arms is not an infringement of this right.

February 1, 2006, 02:46 AM	#21
GlocksRfun Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 423	yup, sad sad day here in wisconsin.. The funny thing is, the 2 votes we were short, the democrats that voted for it in 2003 and also voted to override veto in 2003.. but now in 06, the vote against it. If I could use any words on this site,.. I'd go off for like 27 paragraphs about all my thoughts on that. All I can say is I'm gonna vote republican all across the board... Even if we get a pro-gun governor, if we loose the republicans controling the houses, we'll never get a vote on it, kinda like what happened in,. 02 was it.. Feel free to check out wisconsin concealed carry organization i think it's called.. Do a search for wisconsin concealed carry, u'll see it.. Tehy thell the story a lot better than i just did..

February 1, 2006, 03:18 AM	#22
cheddar Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2006 Location: Madison WIsconsin Posts: 261	yep...this is dumb... lots of good info here: packing.org <------when it works

February 1, 2006, 08:02 AM	#23
Petre Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 634	All these idiots just did was make criminals safer and law abiding citizens criminals if they decide to exercise their constitutional right to arm themselves. Cause , I'm sure by doing this that the criminals will leave their guns at home now. Maybe all gun owners of Wisconsin should buy leg holsters and start walking around out in the open with their gun ... THAT's LEGAL in Wisconsin , even though it would cause much more tension among citizens and with law enforcement. Frickin idiots. Time for me to go buy a S&W 460 XVR and a holster and walk around with that thing hanging down to my knee ... that'd go over REAL good I'm sure. And though I'd scare every man woman and child in the area and probably draw gun's pointed at me from Police ... I'd be LEGAL. __________________ DOCTORS A The number of Doctors in the U.S. is approximately 700,000 B Accidental deaths caused by Doctors per year average 120,000 or 0.171 per Doctor GUNS A The number of legal gun owners in the U.S. is currently over 80,000,000 B The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1500 or .000188 per gun owner Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000x more dangerous than gun owners Remember, Guns don't kill people, DOCTORS do

February 1, 2006, 12:28 PM	#24
bclark1 Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,531	does anyone here ever actually open carry in WI?

February 1, 2006, 01:16 PM	#25
Trip20 Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2005 Posts: 2,181	No. But I'm now considering it.