The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Conference Center > General Discussion Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old April 15, 2023, 07:33 PM   #26
Metal god
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 10, 2012
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 6,782
John it’s like you read my shrinks notes
__________________
If Jesus had a gun , he'd probably still be alive !

I almost always write my posts regardless of content in a jovial manor and intent . If that's not how you took it , please try again .
Metal god is offline  
Old April 15, 2023, 07:46 PM   #27
HiBC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 13, 2006
Posts: 8,224
Great post,Johnska! Tough act to follow!

Quote:
The other side of the thrill of a great deal is the shame and comedy of over paying. I let people know when I'm buying some stock so they can sell it before it plummets.
Right. I get it. Some folks are playing "The Art of the Deal" Coming out on top is their buzz. Its OK. Different strokes.

And some folks recognize "The Tool" The Unicorn The blonde driving the 55 T-bird. " I've been looking for one for 9 years " Wow! This is one of those Colt bolt rifles they built on Sako actions in the 1960's! I had one on my hands once with a $75 price tag! . This one is $475 . Hmm. Nothing personal,but I really don't care what YOU think its worth. Same with a saddle worn Savage 99 or a Mexican Mauser sporter . I set my own price on what I'll pay. I'm not playing the market. Within a year the price is a forgotten number.

The day is comng when I'll tell my Grandson " Here is a Copy of Robert Ruark "The Old Man and the Boy." You are of an age you need a proper bird gun.

Besides,I don't get around as well these days. This is a Berretta 686 Over and Under. Its a pretty good bird gun. It will do for the rest of your life till you get old.....

Oh,and this is a Remngton 513 T 22 target rifle. Works good for head shooting bunnies. This smaller,lighter Mannlicher stock 22 with 2 triggers?
Lets give that to your Sister. Thats an Anshutz made in Germany maybe in the late 1950's or early 1960's .......

Prices? They will be Gifts from Grandpa or Uncle. I won't be thinking of price.


Ha Ha, now when it comes to " This is a case of 5000 CCI #41 primers" or this is an unopened 8 lb jug of Varget.... Prices may be discussed but they will still be passed on as gifts from Grandpa!

This is a 14 ft tinny boat and a 15 hp Evinrude...

Get a good dog,kid,and live a good life. Oh,there are some canoes in the shed.. Labyrinth and Stillwater Canyons of the Green, Ruby and Horsethief of the Colorado...The North Platte..The Yellowstone, East Gallatin ,Madison,Smith,San Juan and more.

Whats it worth? Whats the price? Too much? Not enough?

Oldest Brother on 1968 he was a Special Forces Medic I-Corps,a little SW of Danang. 2 weeks before he got there his A-team was at Kham Duc. There is a book about Kham Duc. "Bait" They moved after. To Nong Som.

Anyway,I respect his Wisdom.One day,he said "Why you buying another gun? You got enough guns to shoot anything! Use your money to go places and do things!! "

Thats where you find the priceless.
HiBC is offline  
Old April 19, 2023, 03:52 PM   #28
DaleA
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 12, 2002
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 5,244
Post #25 from JohnKSa should be a sticky someplace on the site.

I'd make required reading for all new members so they'd know what they're getting into and maybe avoid getting their feelings hurt and realize some things happen A LOT and not just to them.

For the rest of us it might be helpful to remind us to dial back our rhetoric a bit but I still and probably always will enjoy what I'll charitably call some of our 'SPIRITED' discussions on this site.

And thanks always to the moderators that keep things civil.
DaleA is offline  
Old April 19, 2023, 04:11 PM   #29
ballardw
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 19, 2008
Posts: 1,365
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaleA View Post
Post #25 from JohnKSa should be a sticky someplace on the site.
For some, perhaps JohnKSa's post should include prominent <sarcasm> </sarcasm> tags.
__________________
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
All data is flawed, some just less so.
ballardw is offline  
Old April 19, 2023, 04:44 PM   #30
reddog81
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 16, 2014
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,627
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnKSa View Post
A few simple rules to keep in mind when posting on gun forums:

1. You and your gun are one and the same. If someone says something bad about the gun, they are also saying it about you. If someone says something good about the gun, you can take their statement to apply to you as well. This means you are always justified in being personally insulted based on negative comments made about any gun you own.

......

10. Anyone who says they can shoot better than you is lying and is doing all their shooting with the keyboard. Anyone who doesn't shoot as well as you do is a pitiful subhuman wretch.
Very good points however you forgot caliber of choice. If someone prefers a caliber smaller than you, they are obviously not capable of making intelligent informed decisions and should be derided for being mentally defective. Anyone choosing a larger caliber than your preferred caliber, is trying to make up for deficiencies in their life.
reddog81 is offline  
Old April 19, 2023, 11:39 PM   #31
JohnKSa
Staff
 
Join Date: February 12, 2001
Location: DFW Area
Posts: 24,781
Yup, unfortunately there are a lot more rules than just those.
__________________
Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?
JohnKSa is offline  
Old April 20, 2023, 06:39 AM   #32
Wag
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 22, 2010
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 970
Post #25 is a great reason to subscribe to this thread.

In fact, the term, "Post #25" should become immortalized and used as if it were a short definition. For example, someone gets all butt hurt and you reply by saying, "Post #25" and everyone knows what that means.

--Wag--
__________________
"Great genius will always encounter fierce opposition from mediocre minds." --Albert Einstein.
Wag is offline  
Old April 20, 2023, 08:45 AM   #33
stagpanther
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 2, 2014
Posts: 11,391
I wasn't aware the forum rules were recently updated!
__________________
"Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill
I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!
stagpanther is offline  
Old April 20, 2023, 10:55 AM   #34
Mal H
Staff
 
Join Date: March 20, 1999
Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia
Posts: 16,894
The forum rules haven't changed - John's list is the "Official Enumerated List of Gun Ownership Rules".

There is a similar list for sport fishermen.

Mal H is offline  
Old April 20, 2023, 08:06 PM   #35
bbqncigars
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 1, 2009
Location: Iowa
Posts: 524
Quote:
Life is too short not to be happy. If you want it and can realistically afford it, then buy it.
THIS! A few weeks ago I was looking at a Grail rifle and thinking 'Lord, I still really want one, but that's more than I can afford.' Then I reflected on my life and assets, and ordered the dang thing. It should arrive at my LGS next week.
__________________
"Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most." A. Brilliant
bbqncigars is offline  
Old April 24, 2023, 07:01 AM   #36
GLK
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 22, 2000
Location: Brandon FL USA
Posts: 527
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnKSa View Post
A few simple rules to keep in mind when posting on gun forums:

1. You and your gun are one and the same. If someone says something bad about the gun, they are also saying it about you. If someone says something good about the gun, you can take their statement to apply to you as well. This means you are always justified in being personally insulted based on negative comments made about any gun you own.

2. You and the company that made your gun are one and the same. If someone says something bad about the company, they are also saying it about you. If someone says something good about the company, you can take their statement to apply to you as well. This means you are always justified in being personally insulted based on negative comments made about any company that made a gun you own.

3. If someone paid more for a gun than you did, or would, they are obviously severely mentally deficient. It's perfectly all right to feel sorry for them or despise them, depending on your mood.

4. If someone paid significantly less for a gun than you did, they obviously cheated the previous owner. Feel free to insult them, accuse them of stealing, and to heap all manner of insults and imprecations upon them.

5. If someone prepares more carefully than you do for possible self-defense encounters, or carries equipment or items you don't carry, they are clearly paranoid. If you feel magnanimous, you can pity them. Otherwise, it's fine to make fun of their obvious mental illness.

6. Those who prepare less carefully than you do for possible self-defense encounters, or don't carry equipment or items you consider important for self-defense, are clueless sheeple. Your feeling of superiority over them is definitely warranted and should make you feel warm inside.

7. If someone just acquired a new gun and is excited about it, try to find something negative to mention. It's important that other people not enjoy themselves too much and become giddy--that could cause them to be careless or irresponsible. It's your responsibility to keep them on an even keel.

8. Be sure to belittle newbies if they don't get firearm terminology exactly correct or ask questions with obvious answers. Seriously, it's not as if you were ever a newbie--we all sprang from the womb with our encyclopedic knowledge of firearms already in place.

9. Keep in mind that your firearm maintenance routine and the products you use for that purpose are an integral part of who you are as a person. People who use different products or techniques or routines are to be shunned and denigrated. It will help them to learn to be better people and will cement your worth as a knowledgeable gun owner to others who see the abuse you deal out.

10. Anyone who says they can shoot better than you is lying and is doing all their shooting with the keyboard. Anyone who doesn't shoot as well as you do is a pitiful subhuman wretch.
Simply outstanding, well done indeed sir.
__________________
Just face shoot the criminal was the advice I was given. Old tech new tech, face shooting will nearly always take the wrong doing out of a bad guy.
GLK is offline  
Old April 27, 2023, 07:33 PM   #37
WeedWacker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 13, 2006
Location: Body: Clarkston, Washington. Soul: LaCrosse, Wisconsin
Posts: 1,591
My greatest fear is that one day, after I've passed, my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them.
__________________
- Jon
Disequilibrium facilitates accommodation.
9mm vs .45 ACP? The answer is .429
WeedWacker is offline  
Old April 28, 2023, 10:04 PM   #38
ghbucky
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 12, 2020
Posts: 1,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by WeedWacker View Post
My greatest fear is that one day, after I've passed, my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them.
This thread is turning into comedy gold.
ghbucky is offline  
Old April 30, 2023, 05:19 PM   #39
Kreyzhorse
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 12, 2006
Location: NKY
Posts: 12,463
No one. If you can afford it, and love it, it's all yours. Who cares what others think?
__________________
"He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson
Kreyzhorse is offline  
Old May 2, 2023, 02:40 PM   #40
44 AMP
Staff
 
Join Date: March 11, 2006
Location: Upper US
Posts: 28,088
I'd say it depends on if you are spending your money or "our money".

IF it is your money, its nobody else's money, and nobody else's business what you spend it on, or how much.

But if its not, then others do have a say.
__________________
All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.
44 AMP is offline  
Old May 3, 2023, 02:48 PM   #41
Shane Tuttle
Staff
 
Join Date: November 28, 2005
Location: Montana
Posts: 9,428
Sometimes choosing to spend more at a local gun shop keeps me from needing to spend less at a big box store in the future.

That's what I care about.
__________________
If it were up to me, the word "got" would be deleted from the English language.

Posting and YOU: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting
Shane Tuttle is offline  
Old May 4, 2023, 11:55 PM   #42
Stiofan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 17, 2006
Location: Panhandle, Idaho
Posts: 713
I've never over paid for any of the guns I've purchased. I just wish I could say the same about all the ammo I've bought the last couple years!
Stiofan is offline  
Old May 5, 2023, 06:23 AM   #43
ejfalvo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 8, 2009
Posts: 279
I'm on the other side of the scale...I can afford what I want, but AGONIZE about every purchase I make, usually to the point where what I wanted is sold/gone.
ejfalvo is offline  
Old May 5, 2023, 11:17 PM   #44
ghbucky
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 12, 2020
Posts: 1,177
Quote:
Who cares what you spent?
My wife.
ghbucky is offline  
Old June 11, 2023, 06:35 AM   #45
stuckinthe60s
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 31, 2017
Location: Va., Ct., Mo..
Posts: 754
that attitude opens buyers up to those who will take advantage of ignorance....and pass off junk to someone that has money burning a hole in his pocket.
being cautious is a human trait. and its a good one.
now if you mean 'not being a penny pincher,' ok. I too would rather spend 10 more cents on a gallon of milk if its closer to home, than to drive 20 miles to save 10 cents. same with guns.
__________________
Retired Military Aviation
Former Member Navy Shooting Team
Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor
NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner
stuckinthe60s is offline  
Old June 11, 2023, 11:42 PM   #46
armoredman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 22, 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 5,263
I paid a dollar, $1, a single samoleon for a CZ-100, and I overpaid.
armoredman is offline  
Old June 13, 2023, 12:15 PM   #47
RickB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 1, 2000
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 8,486
I spent two grand on a retirement/birthday/Christmas gift to myself, and can't fire two rounds in a row out of the thing without having to clear one that didn't ignite.
I'd say there is no way the gun was test-fired by the manufacturer, as it not only won't consistently fire, but it won't extract the live round when it doesn't.
The manufacturer has been helpful, first sending a replacement part (that did nothing), followed by a return label, so we'll see.
If I'd spent $400, I wouldn't care as much!
__________________
Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.
RickB is offline  
Old August 6, 2023, 03:11 PM   #48
BandeauRouge
member
 
Join Date: August 3, 2023
Posts: 35
Overall it doesnt matter on the price..

Right now a brand new 629 will cost you 1100 plus tax and shipping and transfer

A brand new Samsung z flip phone is 1500$, or 54$/month for 36 months through verizon..
pay 1500 up front and gripe, or pay 2000 over 36 payments MINIMUM..

Alot of people lie about what they pay. Very sommon to still see people claiming they are getting 400$ k-38 with factory box and letter.
BandeauRouge is offline  
Old August 7, 2023, 12:52 PM   #49
44 AMP
Staff
 
Join Date: March 11, 2006
Location: Upper US
Posts: 28,088
Quote:
Very sommon to still see people claiming they are getting 400$ k-38 with factory box and letter.
If I had one (I don't) and paid $150 for it I'd be very tempted to sell it to you for $400.

Except that I know someone who would happily give me $800, so you'd lose out there....
__________________
All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.
44 AMP is offline  
Old August 7, 2023, 02:05 PM   #50
stinkeypete
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 22, 2010
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Posts: 1,268
My ex-brother-in-law's son works as a race car mechanic for classic cars that are raced. Guys who were programmers in the early days of Microscoft made so much money, that they go out and race expensive classic race cars. Why? Because they can. Money means nothing to them.

While we might think $5,000 is a lot of money, these guys blow that on a GOOD weekend at the track. A bad day costs a couple hundred thousand. They don't care. It's monopoly money to them.

And why not? Its fun and keeps people employed.
__________________
My book "The Pheasant Hunter's Action Adventure Cookbook" is now on Amazon.
Tall tales, hunting tips, butchering from bird to the freezer, and recipes.
stinkeypete is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.13554 seconds with 10 queries