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July 25, 2017, 12:12 AM | #1 |
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Shooting Paper and Steel with Irons
This was my first time shooting beyond 100 yds since I installed an HK 1200 meter rear sight onto my PTR 91, GI model. All the shooting was done off of a table with my ammo box/airsoft BB sock rest. Below are the highlights.
The rifle: The ammunition: I call it German surplus. I put what I call a “Hostage” target at 200 yds. The target is 18” tall by 12” wide, so I consider it a 2/3 size target. I’m not sure how that translate into what distance the target would appear to be at, if it were full-size. Obviously, it’s more than 200 yds. I fired three strings of five shots each. I was aiming at the red silhouette every time. I fired 20 rounds at the steel silhouette at 400 yds. I had an older man (who tried to) spot for me. I got 14 out of 20, with one string of 10 hits, and another string of four hits. Here’s the YouTube link: https://youtu.be/RBID76Cb2hU
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July 25, 2017, 12:13 AM | #2 |
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I had 10 rounds of Wolf Polyformance steel-cased ammunition left over, so I put a Red Dawn target at 100 yds.
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July 25, 2017, 12:53 PM | #3 |
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"...call it German surplus..." Pretty much what it is. The Wolf stuff isn't much better. If you're going to play at longer ranges, you need better ammo and you need to know the ballistics of .308 ammo. And don't forget to move the rear sight.
Hornady 168 grain match ammo sighted in 2" high at 100 should be on target at 200, 8.5" low at 300 and 24.7" low at 400. Those figures are from their new site. Federal Match ammo is about the same. 168's are good for distances out to 600 yards. Your Red Dawn target is a Figure 12. Sort of a half guy. A Figure 11 is the whole guy. You can buy 'em or print 'em if you have a great big printer.
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July 29, 2017, 09:25 AM | #5 |
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You keep posting these targets and each time I see them. here and on other sites. I cant help but wonder what would happen if you used quality ammo. I bet you'd be surprised if you tried some 168 or 175 Match Grade 308s.
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(The S-10 score is actually 98 when you add up all 10 shots) At 200 yds, the German surplus was just a little less accurate (92 S-10 score); and, at 300 yds, it was more accurate: S-10 score of 90 vs. S-10 score of 83. I do need to try it (match grade) at 400 yds at my club, and at 600 yds at Talladega Marksmanship Park.
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