"You have too many civil rights!"

armoredman · November 27, 2011, 11:04 AM

This is an actual quote from a person I was talking to last night. This person moved to Arizona from England, and while chatting yesterday about many things, popped this one off like a grenade. Needless to say, I was rather stunned, having been born and raised in Free AZ.
By the way, during the same conversation she stated that the surrender of General Cornwallis at Yorktown never actually happened, was only made up for the movie The Patriot, and the only reason the Continental Army won the war was that the English "got bored". I was then admonished to go "read my history."

Ever just been so overwhelmed with deliberate ignorance that it leaves you speechless? I mean other than when Congress is in session.

**Aguila Blanca** · November 27, 2011, 11:19 AM

She meant you should go read her history. We all know (or should) that pretty much all history books are written to promote some official or quasi-official perspective. In the United States, I'm sure if I were to read some American History textbooks today I would find little in common with the textbooks I studied (I use the term loosely) back when I was in grammar and high school shortly after the signing of the Magna Carta. I'm sure American History today puts much more emphasis on blacks and Hispanics than "the history" I was taught -- even though it's the same country and the events of 200-plus years ago didn't change just because someone wrote a new book to promote a slanted agenda.

Which leads one to wonder if perhaps in (formerly) Great Britain they might actually be teaching that Cornwallis never surrendered, or that the redcoats went home because they got bored.

A year ago I was in a South American country, speaking with a government attorney and a social worker with a government agency. The topic of our Thanksgiving came up and the attorney matter-of-factly informed the social worker that the American holiday of Thanksgiving "is the day when Americans celebrate killing all the Indians."

YIKES! But ... she didn't make that up. Somebody had to have taught her that. (And, considering the way her country has treated some of its indigenous residents, it wouldn't surprise me to find that they deliberately mis-cast our Thanksgiving so as to make their own transgressions appear less genocidal by comparison.)

Glenn E. Meyer · November 27, 2011, 11:26 AM

Don't see the Law or Civil Rights issues. Different world views of history - not for us.

Sorry - closed.

November 27, 2011, 11:04 AM	#1
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,295	"You have too many civil rights!" This is an actual quote from a person I was talking to last night. This person moved to Arizona from England, and while chatting yesterday about many things, popped this one off like a grenade. Needless to say, I was rather stunned, having been born and raised in Free AZ. By the way, during the same conversation she stated that the surrender of General Cornwallis at Yorktown never actually happened, was only made up for the movie The Patriot, and the only reason the Continental Army won the war was that the English "got bored". I was then admonished to go "read my history." Ever just been so overwhelmed with deliberate ignorance that it leaves you speechless? I mean other than when Congress is in session.

November 27, 2011, 11:26 AM	#3
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Don't see the Law or Civil Rights issues. Different world views of history - not for us. Sorry - closed. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

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November 27, 2011, 11:19 AM	#2
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,457	She meant you should go read her history. We all know (or should) that pretty much all history books are written to promote some official or quasi-official perspective. In the United States, I'm sure if I were to read some American History textbooks today I would find little in common with the textbooks I studied (I use the term loosely) back when I was in grammar and high school shortly after the signing of the Magna Carta. I'm sure American History today puts much more emphasis on blacks and Hispanics than "the history" I was taught -- even though it's the same country and the events of 200-plus years ago didn't change just because someone wrote a new book to promote a slanted agenda. Which leads one to wonder if perhaps in (formerly) Great Britain they might actually be teaching that Cornwallis never surrendered, or that the redcoats went home because they got bored. A year ago I was in a South American country, speaking with a government attorney and a social worker with a government agency. The topic of our Thanksgiving came up and the attorney matter-of-factly informed the social worker that the American holiday of Thanksgiving "is the day when Americans celebrate killing all the Indians." YIKES! But ... she didn't make that up. Somebody had to have taught her that. (And, considering the way her country has treated some of its indigenous residents, it wouldn't surprise me to find that they deliberately mis-cast our Thanksgiving so as to make their own transgressions appear less genocidal by comparison.)