5.56 vs .223 for Home Defense - Page 6

davidsog · May 3, 2018, 07:09 AM

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All I can say about using either one for home defense--be aware of what's beyond your walls.

That is it.

Focus on your shot placement and stay in the fight. Do not expect your shot to stop your opponent so keep shooting until it does!!

stagpanther · May 3, 2018, 08:26 AM

I really like hearing miltary combat and police stories and correlations--but I'm not sure how they apply to the OP's original request.

I've heard of warnings where retaining a "evil AR" for home defense purposes is itself a potential liability--depending upon how "politically correct" a jury might be if a user were brought to trial for any reason. My concern would be for over-penetration of either incarnation--I seem to recall someone did a test somewhere using both the "police low penetration rounds" as well as military grade stuff--and pretty much in all cases all of them went right through multiple layers of dry-rock and wood studs.

Eazyeach · May 3, 2018, 11:45 AM

ANYTHING you use for home defense will go through multiple layers of drywall. Haven’t we wasted enough data on this thread? Let it go!

rickyrick · May 3, 2018, 01:45 PM

I’ve tested it and you are correct. I had a personal range. I tested drywall and 2x4s and made little walls. 9mm, 45, buckshot, .223 and similar. Some birdshot will rebound and sting your lips and face I discovered... lol ouch.

The US didn’t sign The Hague convention, so our military isn’t bound to FMJ but we follow anyway in most cases. Military ammunition use is a moot point. Personally I wouldn’t use a rifle in my home except in some dire situation. I wouldn’t used Fmj unless there was some real extremly desperate event.

May 3, 2018, 08:26 AM	#127
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,789	I really like hearing miltary combat and police stories and correlations--but I'm not sure how they apply to the OP's original request. I've heard of warnings where retaining a "evil AR" for home defense purposes is itself a potential liability--depending upon how "politically correct" a jury might be if a user were brought to trial for any reason. My concern would be for over-penetration of either incarnation--I seem to recall someone did a test somewhere using both the "police low penetration rounds" as well as military grade stuff--and pretty much in all cases all of them went right through multiple layers of dry-rock and wood studs. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!* Last edited by stagpanther; May 3, 2018 at 08:33 AM.

May 3, 2018, 11:45 AM	#128
Eazyeach Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2014 Posts: 706	ANYTHING you use for home defense will go through multiple layers of drywall. Haven’t we wasted enough data on this thread? Let it go!

May 3, 2018, 01:45 PM	#129
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,237	I’ve tested it and you are correct. I had a personal range. I tested drywall and 2x4s and made little walls. 9mm, 45, buckshot, .223 and similar. Some birdshot will rebound and sting your lips and face I discovered... lol ouch. The US didn’t sign The Hague convention, so our military isn’t bound to FMJ but we follow anyway in most cases. Military ammunition use is a moot point. Personally I wouldn’t use a rifle in my home except in some dire situation. I wouldn’t used Fmj unless there was some real extremly desperate event.