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Old March 2, 2020, 11:06 AM   #26
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And the myth continues....
That one will never die. Too many people continue to repeat it.

I had a CZ527, with cheap steel ammo it averaged 1.5moa at 100yds. My AR, in 7.62x39, is averaging about 1.5moa with the same ammo. While being softer, flatter and easier to shoot.


Back to the OP, I would go SKS from your two choices.
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Old March 2, 2020, 11:25 AM   #27
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I prefer the Mini-30. I simply never liked the SKS. Crudely made and ugly. Yes, they shoot well enough. I even owned a Norinco SKS - it just always looked and felt like junk to me. Just my very personal thoughts on this.
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Old March 2, 2020, 12:05 PM   #28
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after adding a receiver sight(sks mojo) to my norinco, it shoots 2-3" groups at 100 yds easily.

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Old March 2, 2020, 12:37 PM   #29
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If I were limited to 10 rounds, my choice would be an SKS, hands-down.
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Old March 2, 2020, 12:39 PM   #30
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I prefer the Mini-30. I simply never liked the SKS. Crudely made and ugly. Yes, they shoot well enough. I even owned a Norinco SKS - it just always looked and felt like junk to me. Just my very personal thoughts on this.

I routinely out shoot my friend and his ruger.
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Old March 2, 2020, 01:14 PM   #31
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I don't like the 90 degree shell casing ejection path of the Mini-30's.

I do believe I own an original Chinese Norinco SKS scoped sniper rifle. Extended rifle magazines (beyond 10 rounds) are not that reliable --- imho --- for the SKS. I clamped a Soviet flash hider on the muzzle. I took the bayonet off...due to fears that I have to many non-original parts on it. The short length scope I have mounted on it, will not allow the use of stripper clips.

My SKS is more accurate than my AKM's.
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Old March 2, 2020, 05:48 PM   #32
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SKSs don't fit me well and are therefore uncomfortable. My arms are longer than most, however. In my experience, SKSs are not very accurate regardless of what you run through them. Of course my sampling size is small compared to the entirety of all SKSs. To me, the Mini-30 is what I would want, but if shooting the SKS before buying to confirm level of accuracy was possible, I certainly wouldn't rule it out.

On the other hand, I've always liked Mini-14 and 30s, but am turned off by their high prices, especially since the older models were notoriously inaccurate. I wouldn't pay their going price.

I guess shoulder them both and pick which you like better. For me it's bad ergonomics vs overpriced. I don't know, hard to pick.
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Old March 2, 2020, 06:06 PM   #33
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There are after market SKS recoil pads for the LOP.
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Old March 2, 2020, 06:51 PM   #34
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Out of the two guns listed, I would prefer the Ruger over the SKS. I have had both and did not like the SKS due to the extra weight toward the forward part of the rifle. It was reliable and shot well but mine had the launcher sights/gas cutoff and the blade bayonet. I did not like its balance with the weight up front.

One of the things I recall about the accuracy of the older Rugers was the bore diameter issue. According to Ruger the first production Mini-30 had a bore size of .308-.309, after several years of production; the .310-.311 bore size was manufactured in 1990 on the Mini-30. With factory ammunition, it is ok to shoot the .310-.311 ammunition through the first production .308-.309 bores according to Ruger so I guess it depends if your looking for a new Ruger Mini or an older model and how this might affect your accuracy. I also like the Mini better due to its weight and balance.

In the end I got rid of both and built an AR in 7.62X39 and love it.
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Old March 2, 2020, 10:18 PM   #35
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I'll take a Russian SKS over a Mini-30, nearly any day.
Other SKSs, however... I'm not much of a fan. The Chicom stuff, in particular, is rarely anything other than garbage.

Honestly, one of the biggest factors for me: I like stripper clips.
...And 7.62x39mm stripper clips work very well, and are very reusable.
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Old March 2, 2020, 10:26 PM   #36
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As an SKS owner, RUGER makes more sense to me. Certainly a better value and a better build.
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Old March 4, 2020, 10:30 PM   #37
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SKS reliability

I never handled a Ruger Mini-30 but have a Russian SKS and use to own a Chinese SKS. The Chinese SKS is crude and the Russian shows better workmanship. I never compared the two for accuracy.

What I like about the SKS is its history and ruggedness and ease of assembly. The rifle can be loaded from the top with a stripper clip or by hand; or from the bottom. I can shoot it by resting my check against the comb or rest my chin on the stock and use the sight cover as the front sight. I thought this was pretty ingenious of the Russians to think of this while walking and aiming at the same time. Maybe other militaria rifles do the same but I haven't tested them yet, only the SKS.

Last, I can reload it with 123gr SP or 150gr SP. with 150gr, it's said to be about the same as a 30/30.

The downside is that the rifle is not well balanced. But for the cost I paid, it's worth it.
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Old March 4, 2020, 10:37 PM   #38
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Areoflyer09, bet you can't get 1.5 MOA from an SKS or a Mini. They aren't intrinsically very precise due to bedding. I'm really glad your AR and CZ bolt gun can do better but they are not the rifles we are talking about. rc
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Old March 6, 2020, 08:01 AM   #39
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I had a Mini 30 when they very first came out. At first with factory ammo and stock trigger I was very disappointed. 5-6” groups at 100 yds. I cut of 1 3/4 loops on the spring for the disconector and polished the sear. Then worked up a nice load and it became a solid sub 2MOA rifle that I killed many deer with. Wished I’d never sold that one.
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Old March 7, 2020, 07:37 AM   #40
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Areoflyer09, bet you can't get 1.5 MOA from an SKS or a Mini. They aren't intrinsically very precise due to bedding. I'm really glad your AR and CZ bolt gun can do better but they are not the rifles we are talking about. rc
The point of my post was that the myth that x39 ammo is inaccurate will never die, not that the Mini-30 or SKS are accurate rifles. Stop blaming the ammo for the rifle’s deficiencies.
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Old March 7, 2020, 11:41 AM   #41
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An SKS, but Not a Yugo.

Both of my very nice M59 (no grenade launcher) Yugoslav suffered from bad “popped primers” until they were cured at Murray’s Gunsmithing.
Buy a firing pin Spring for the SKS.

—-if a Mini 30 is reliable with Your Anmo, fine. My ammo was Russian , and hard primers Promag (OEM mags were not yet avail.) aftermarket magazines Didn’t work reliably.

They were perfect after that. The only catch was that my SKS and Makarov “fever” became imported AK and German Sig “fever”.
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Old April 6, 2020, 08:48 AM   #42
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I had a Mini 30 years ago and it wouldn't put all rounds on a paper plate at 100 yards. Groups were terrible.
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Old April 11, 2020, 12:37 AM   #43
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I'd go SKS. I have a couple, they run fine, and serve the purpose if you need one.

Classic has Norinco's in stock right now, $299.
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Old April 26, 2020, 03:12 AM   #44
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Reminder: only the Yugo 59/66 SKS has the grenade launcher. This is what creates that extra forward center-of-gravity. “C.G.” Is too difficult for many people to understand.

The very First Yugo SKS series, the M59, has No grenade launcher-neither do the other SKS (Russian, E. German, Romanian, Chinese, Albanian, Vietnamese, N.Korean)....just the Yugo 59/66.

The first Russian SKS were actually built with firing pin springs.
Available now at Murray’s Gunsmithing, Bowie TX:
SKS specialists.

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Old April 26, 2020, 06:10 AM   #45
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I'll take a Russian SKS over a Mini-30, nearly any day.
Other SKSs, however... I'm not much of a fan. The Chicom stuff, in particular, is rarely anything other than garbage.

Honestly, one of the biggest factors for me: I like stripper clips.
...And 7.62x39mm stripper clips work very well, and are very reusable.
This may be your experience but I have had several SKS carbines. All were Russian military, un-bubbaed, as issued or re-arsenaled. Including a 1950 Tula, sans chrome bore and with a firing pin return spring later, as you know, discontinued .

I had one Chicom factory 26, 1966, full military, as issued and when I bought it, I actually thought it was unfired. It even had the spring-like sling attachments which are fairly rare.

It was just as good or better than any of the Russians. It was all milled, threaded, etc and the parts such as springs, gas pistons, trigger, latches and everything else seemed to better or at least just as good as any of the Russians I had. Surprisingly, it also had a decent blued finish.....it was also a shade more accurate than any of the Russians.
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Old April 26, 2020, 10:57 AM   #46
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I wold get the SKS> I tired the mini 30. It shot fine. I just find the SKS to be more comfortable for me to shoot. I still have an Egyptian SKS. I had a Chinese once upon a time. Sold it to my cousin. He still has it, and it goes where he goes on the farm in his truck. It has killed a slew of deer, and hogs.
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