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Old July 11, 2022, 11:04 AM   #26
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I was at the range one day many years ago and a guy showed up very late in the afternoon, just before dusk. I don't remember the details but I do recall that he said he was a writer for a magazine and that he was supposed to submit a review of "this rifle" first thing in the morning.

He fired off about 10 rounds at a 50 yard target, took a few photos and then left. He didn't even check his targets, just used a spotting scope to peer at them.

In my never-to-be-humble opinion, that isn't nearly enough shooting to write a decent review that has any real meaning.

I don't really believe many reviews of any product these days.

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Old July 25, 2022, 09:07 PM   #27
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3 inches at 30 yards is 10 inches at 100 yards,
Not necessarily. Maybe in a perfect world.

I challenge everyone, every single person, to load 200 rounds...go to the range and start at 25 yards. Shoot 10 rounds each at 25, 50, 75, 100, 150, 200 and 250 yards.

I promise "3 inches at 30 yards is 10 inches at 100 yards" is BS with these old black powder cartridges, especially non rifle cartridges used in rifles like the 45 Colt.

Saw this on another forum, would love to see how this load would group at 25 yards!!!!

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"Henry Big Boy 45 Colt cowboy loads 200yds and iron sights. 2nd shot was in the bullseye...not hard if you know how to shoot"]Henry Big Boy 45 Colt cowboy loads 200yds and iron sights. 2nd shot was in the bullseye...not hard if you know how to shoot
If 3" at 25 yards is 10" at 100 yards, what would it be at 250?
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Old July 25, 2022, 09:14 PM   #28
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I was at the range one day many years ago and a guy showed up very late in the afternoon, just before dusk. I don't remember the details but I do recall that he said he was a writer for a magazine and that he was supposed to submit a review of "this rifle" first thing in the morning.

He fired off about 10 rounds at a 50 yard target, took a few photos and then left. He didn't even check his targets, just used a spotting scope to peer at them.

In my never-to-be-humble opinion, that isn't nearly enough shooting to write a decent review that has any real meaning.

I don't really believe many reviews of any product these days.

--Wag--
Yeap, most articles are just to fill a slot because all those weekend warriors that read them believe everything they read.

I get so sick of seeing photographs of rifle targets that have no range data or that are only shot at 25 yards.
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Old July 28, 2022, 11:15 AM   #29
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Yes, you are loco--but for other reasons.

Some of the handloads in the article were under an inch at that 30 yds; now if it were me--though I'm not as good as all the one-hole-all-day-long-at-a-1000 yds gang that proliferate all gun forums these days--a 5 shot group through the irons at 30 yds under an inch would be something I'd be quite happy with.

The article is, otherwise, pretty lacking in realistic information. Specifically, the older rossis were pretty slip-shod in their construction and if you needed one little screw--you literally had to send the whole rifle to Brazil; I don't think Braztec is much more than a guy sipping Caipirinhas on South Beach, but I could be wrong.

What would be really meaningful--which means we'll likely never see it--is an article that compares the earlier rossi 92's to this new incarnation.
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Old July 28, 2022, 12:38 PM   #30
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Extensive tests have shown that groups open up about 10% for each 100 yards past the first one.

Gets worse as muzzle velocity spread gets bigger.
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Old July 28, 2022, 03:14 PM   #31
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Even 1" at 30 yd is barely "our rifles don't $uck". A brand new rifle shouldn't $uck. It is better than before. That may be what they are trying to say.

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