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Old September 17, 2018, 05:39 PM   #26
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Old September 17, 2018, 06:24 PM   #27
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Go to Luckygunner and look thru their testing and make your own choice.

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/sel...llistic-tests/
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Old September 17, 2018, 07:40 PM   #28
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I like to shoot and carry the 124 gr XTP's.

Reload using the 124 XTP's, to duplicate the carry ammo.
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Old September 17, 2018, 10:51 PM   #29
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Thanks guys for the opinions. I'll be carrying them in probably a Ruger LC9. I wanted a Kimber Micro9 but I can't justify the cost... Anyway I'm going to make up pick up one in the next week or two...

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Old September 18, 2018, 07:57 AM   #30
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Remember, Speer and Federal are now owned by the Vista Outdoors. Same company.

Interesting example of similarities between the two. Speer .223 Gold Dot is the same bullet construction as the new Federal Fusion .223. Crazy world. Vista Outdoors owns almost all bullets in the US with the exclusion of Tula, Remington/Barnes, Hornady, and a few of the smaller manufactures they haven't gobbled up.

9mm bee's knees is the HST.
Ranger T 147gr has at times been test as penetrating too much and not opening up.
Gold Dot lagging behind the HST, when Speer was owned by ATK, went into a revision with the Gold Dot G2.
XTP as defined by Hornady (X for extreme, where extreme is referenced for it's penetration) doesn't open up large the other hollow points. That's why you see XTP rounds in hunting rounds (ie 10mm) and the FTX in the personal defense line.

HST always lands at 17" or under fully expanded.
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Old September 18, 2018, 09:34 PM   #31
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As I recall Corbon used to be considered the best but I haven't carried a 9 in a long time. What is considered top grade defensive ammo these days?

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I still carry Federal Hydro-shocks. I use to carry Winchester Silvertips back in the 80s and then switched to Hydro-shocks.
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Old October 2, 2018, 01:05 AM   #32
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I was looking on Midway for some defensive ammo and ran across NovX 9mm lead free ammo. Before I order some, anyone here have any experience with it?

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Old October 2, 2018, 05:51 AM   #33
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^^^ Never heard of it before, to be honest.
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Old October 2, 2018, 07:19 AM   #34
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Not that I dislike Corbon and I did carry DPX in my P3AT when it was THE .380 round...

But in 9mm it's not sufficient in the non +P load and the +p 115gr Barnes XPD/Corbon loads are the only 115gr that are "good" in the big tests. The expansion of the XPD is impressive.

As a result of the light 115gr, we see they stop in the 13-near 14 inch range. The Federal loads go 15" plus and are large.
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Old October 2, 2018, 07:35 AM   #35
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I'll probably end up doing my own tests but I'm hoping to narrow down the choices to 2 or 3 brands to try...

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Old October 17, 2018, 06:12 PM   #36
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https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/sel...llistic-tests/

Realistically, on the Lucky Gunner list of 9mm tested ammunition, there may be only one, or two, that I wouldn't carry based on initial testing. Provided they function in my weapon.

Placement over round.

Find a round that functions in your weapon.

Shoot it enough to know it won't fail when you need it. At least to the degree that reality allows you to do so.

Practice, and get realistic instruction.

Be willing. Survive the fight. Don't over think it.

Give me an 80s designed Winchester Silvertip and I'm happy as a clam; 30 years later. Are there more modern designs? Yes. Do any of them give me more confidence? No.
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Old October 17, 2018, 08:21 PM   #37
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I still like the classic Corbon 115gr +P jhp. Bought two new boxes yesterday, in fact. Most of the time, I use HSTs (all variants except the Micro version) or 124gr +P Gold Dots, but for those really hot summer months when people are wearing really light clothing or for HD, I like the low penetration, high energy dump of this old school load.
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Old October 21, 2018, 12:50 PM   #38
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124 +P Gold dots, with the added benefit that it is a boring well known brand
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Old October 22, 2018, 12:26 AM   #39
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can't resist

Sorry......but free ammo is my favorite.
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Old October 24, 2018, 07:00 AM   #40
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Lehigh/Underwood/Blackhills Xtreme Defender..
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Old October 26, 2018, 06:46 AM   #41
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Hornady

Hard to beat Hornady Critical Duty or Critical Defense for self defense round, but Speer gold dots n HSTs are right up there
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Old October 26, 2018, 03:54 PM   #42
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Hornandy Critical Defense or Federal hydrashok get my vote.
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