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November 25, 2011, 10:00 PM | #1 |
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nj denial, will it affect possession in other states?
Hi all,
I was considering applying for a nj FID card (firearms identification card). I have been shooting and hunting before, but I can only go with pople that have this card If i am denied, do you think it will affect me buying a gun in another state? I am thinking of moving to colorado in a couple years if possible. Will colorado ever ask me on a nics form or state form if I was ever denied from getting a firearm? Thanks for the Help! |
November 25, 2011, 10:27 PM | #2 |
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To answer your question I suppose it depends on the reason for denial. Do you expect to be denied?
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November 26, 2011, 01:21 AM | #3 | ||
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That said, it is your responsibility to know if you are legal to buy the gun or not. If you're not, but by some fluke you happen to pass the NICS check, you'd still be breaking the law by taking the gun home. Very unlikely scenario however. |
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November 26, 2011, 08:01 AM | #4 |
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I should of been more specific. I was never arrested. In fact, I worked as a subsitute teacher in NJ and passed the back ground check fine. However, If you have ever seen a psychologist in NJ, That is a perfect reason to be denied. I have never been to a mental instituion voluntarily or involuntarily.
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November 26, 2011, 04:47 PM | #5 |
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Disclaimer: this poster is not a lawyer.
The NJ FOID is a state issued ID. It carries no weight and represents no authority in any state other than NJ. You won't have had your right to own firearms revoked if you're denied- the state of NJ will merely have refused to issue you a form of identification. It should have no bearing on your future ability to purchase and own firearms in other states. One exception- If you are a NJ resident and show an NJ driver's license when you buy a gun at a store in another state, they may ask to see your NJ FOID. If you don't have one, they may refuse the sale. That wouldn't affect you past that sale on that day; they'd only be refusing you to avoid potential liability. Now... whether or not the state will find some technicality to deny your FOID application, I can't say. I've had difficulty with handgun permit applications for the horrible offense of being unemployed, so it's entirely possible they'd try to bust your kneecaps over visiting a psychologist. Depending on who's processing the application, I wouldn't put it past them to deny you for having had the flu. Kidding aside, there is nothing in the law which states you can't be issued an FOID because you've been to a few therapy sessions. My inclination is to believe you'll be just fine. Best of luck on your application. |
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FBI NICS keeps keeps a permanent record of all "Denied" transactions. "Delayed" transactions are saved until they become a "Proceed" in which case the information from that check would be deleted at the close of the NICS business day. If the "Delayed" status is eventually changed to "Denied", the FBI will keep the information on file.
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If you ever get denied you need to find out why. While some denials are the result of identity issues.....if you do have something in your personal history that is causing the denial you are probably committing a felony by attempting to purchase a firearm.
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The thing to remember is, a denial does not necessarily mean you can not legally own a gun, and an approval does not necessarily mean you can. It's your responsibility to know. |
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November 27, 2011, 12:44 PM | #11 |
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Oops...you are right. My memory sucks. I will stop giving advice now
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