sizing .45lc down to .44mag?

troy_mclure · May 31, 2011, 09:14 PM

i have a hand full of .45lc, and i am in need of .44mag brass.

has anybody ever successfully sized them down? any reason not to try?

IllinoisCoyoteHunter · May 31, 2011, 09:23 PM

no and yes. It wont work

shootniron · May 31, 2011, 09:25 PM

Not possible.

**Mal H** · May 31, 2011, 09:43 PM

troy - Do you know the actual sizes of those two cases, including the rims, or are you only going on .45" vs .44"?

TXGunNut · May 31, 2011, 10:10 PM

Buy a 45 Colt. It'll be easier and cheaper. You'll thank me later.

Edward429451 · May 31, 2011, 10:28 PM

I've seen 44 Mag fireformed into 45 Colt Brass accidently in a 45 Colt gun

but not the other way around.

kenno · May 31, 2011, 10:30 PM

You really need to learn ALOT more about ammunition

Edward429451 · May 31, 2011, 10:40 PM

Hey, I was watching! It wasn't my gun or ammo or me shooting! I saw the bulged brass on the ground and told him to stop. There was two bubbas there that day. One bubba handed over the wrong ammo for the gun, the other bubba didn't check the ammo before loading the gun.

**Mal H** · May 31, 2011, 10:42 PM

Not positive, but I think he was talking to the OP.

Edward429451 · May 31, 2011, 10:45 PM

zxcvbob · May 31, 2011, 11:09 PM

If you're lucky, you will only get it about 1/2 inch into the sizing die before it sticks (and you'll be able to get it out again.) If you get all the way to the case web and a little beyond before it sticks, you'll probably tear the case head off trying to get it out.

It may not even start into the sizing dies; 45's are quite a bit larger than a .44

ballardw · June 1, 2011, 12:39 AM

First, remember that the .44 is advertising speak for "not quite a .43"

bedlamite · June 1, 2011, 06:53 AM

In theory you could, but it would just be cheaper to buy several thousand 44 mag brass than the equipment to do it.

troy_mclure · June 1, 2011, 07:31 AM

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troy - Do you know the actual sizes of those two cases, including the rims, or are you only going on .45" vs .44"?

well i did actually measure the rims(.44 is .002 bigger). and they use the same shell holder and are the same length. lol

i was just seeing if i could treat them like .25-06/.270 when i size them to .30-06. thats a much bigger size difference there.

jmorris · June 1, 2011, 07:41 AM

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You really need to learn ALOT more about ammunition

What a helpfull answer for someone looking to learn by asking questions...

Others are correct, won't work.

dahermit · June 1, 2011, 07:59 AM

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i was just seeing if i could treat them like .25-06/.270 when i size them to .30-06. thats a much bigger size difference there.

Unlike the .45 to .44 concept, the .25-06/.270/.30-06 all use the same parent case (same head size).

mavracer · June 1, 2011, 11:25 AM

just to explain the reason why it doesn't work with the 25-06 270 30-06 you are only necking down the mouth of the case. with the 44/45 the 44 is straight walled so you'd have to resize all the way to the rim including the web of the case which is solid on the 45 colt.

Rifleman1776 · June 1, 2011, 11:29 AM

Advising one to learn is good advice.
He is inquiring about something that would not be a question if he had even basic knowledge of firearms.
People have stopped learning for themselves. With guns that can be dangerous.
The answer is "no" or just "Hell no!".

troy_mclure · June 1, 2011, 04:26 PM

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just to explain the reason why it doesn't work with the 25-06 270 30-06 you are only necking down the mouth of the case. with the 44/45 the 44 is straight walled so you'd have to resize all the way to the rim including the web of the case which is solid on the 45 colt.

i didnt even think of the web! thanks!

May 31, 2011, 09:14 PM	#1
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	sizing .45lc down to .44mag? i have a hand full of .45lc, and i am in need of .44mag brass. has anybody ever successfully sized them down? any reason not to try? __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

May 31, 2011, 09:23 PM	#2
IllinoisCoyoteHunter Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2008 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,527	no and yes. It wont work __________________ ~~IllinoisCoyoteHunter~~ ~NRA LIFE MEMBER~ ~NRA CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR~

May 31, 2011, 10:10 PM	#5
TXGunNut Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: If you have to ask... Posts: 2,860	Buy a 45 Colt. It'll be easier and cheaper. You'll thank me later. __________________ Life Member NRA, TSRA Smokeless powder is a passing fad! -Steve Garbe I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it. -Woodrow F. Call Lonesome Dove My favorite recipes start out with a handful of used wheelweights.

May 31, 2011, 11:09 PM	#11
zxcvbob Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2007 Location: S.E. Minnesota Posts: 4,720	If you're lucky, you will only get it about 1/2 inch into the sizing die before it sticks (and you'll be able to get it out again.) If you get all the way to the case web and a little beyond before it sticks, you'll probably tear the case head off trying to get it out. It may not even start into the sizing dies; 45's are quite a bit larger than a .44 __________________ "Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me want to set myself on fire!" —Lucille Bluth

June 1, 2011, 12:39 AM	#12
ballardw Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 1,411	First, remember that the .44 is advertising speak for "not quite a .43" __________________ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ All data is flawed, some just less so.

May 31, 2011, 09:25 PM	#3
shootniron Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,599	Not possible.

May 31, 2011, 09:43 PM	#4
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,950	troy - Do you know the actual sizes of those two cases, including the rims, or are you only going on .45" vs .44"?

May 31, 2011, 10:28 PM	#6
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	I've seen 44 Mag fireformed into 45 Colt Brass accidently in a 45 Colt gun but not the other way around.

May 31, 2011, 10:30 PM	#7
kenno Junior member Join Date: November 3, 2008 Posts: 180	You really need to learn ALOT more about ammunition

May 31, 2011, 10:40 PM	#8
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	Hey, I was watching! It wasn't my gun or ammo or me shooting! I saw the bulged brass on the ground and told him to stop. There was two bubbas there that day. One bubba handed over the wrong ammo for the gun, the other bubba didn't check the ammo before loading the gun.

May 31, 2011, 10:42 PM	#9
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,950	Not positive, but I think he was talking to the OP.

May 31, 2011, 10:45 PM	#10
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494

June 1, 2011, 06:53 AM	#13
bedlamite Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2000 Location: WI Posts: 1,395	In theory you could, but it would just be cheaper to buy several thousand 44 mag brass than the equipment to do it. __________________ A plan is just a list of things that doesn't happen.

June 1, 2011, 11:29 AM	#18
Rifleman1776 Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,309	Advising one to learn is good advice. He is inquiring about something that would not be a question if he had even basic knowledge of firearms. People have stopped learning for themselves. With guns that can be dangerous. The answer is "no" or just "Hell no!".