Henry Survey

44caliberkid · May 10, 2018, 06:48 PM

I got an email from Henry the other day, asking what I'd like to see in the next Henry. I love the new steel frame Big Boy 44 Mag carbine. I told them, that gun, in 460 S&W- 454 Casull- 45Colt interchangeable.

3Crows · May 10, 2018, 10:10 PM

A loading gate and sleeker styling, real stainless steel and a laminate/synthetic/carbon fiber stock. 3C

Water-Man · May 10, 2018, 10:59 PM

A loading gate, less weight and a reduced price.

Joe-ker · May 11, 2018, 08:05 AM

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3Crows

A loading gate and sleeker styling, real stainless steel and a laminate/synthetic/carbon fiber stock. 3C
Last edited by 3Crows; Yesterday at 10:16 PM.

You're coming around 3crows!

I expect to see side gates as that seems to be the #1 complaint.

That means more Henry's in my future.

Siggy-06 · May 11, 2018, 10:56 AM

+1 on the loading gate.

DaleA · May 11, 2018, 05:29 PM

+1 on the loading gate.

Yep. Those childhood westerns sure had an effect.

2wheelwander · May 11, 2018, 05:34 PM

I got the same email. Loading gate was my first suggestion.

**Shane Tuttle** · May 11, 2018, 05:52 PM

I'd like to see their Brass, as in, every executive from the CEO to the production manager fired and hire people that know what the term, "customer service" really means.

My company, using our local Sportsmans Warehouse rep, tried to get a group buy with them. It was an absolute NIGHTMARE. We canceled the order and went another direction.

3Crows · May 11, 2018, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe-ker

You're coming around 3crows!

I expect to see side gates as that seems to be the #1 complaint.

That means more Henry's in my future.

Could happen. Me become a Henry man! 3C

Road_Clam · May 12, 2018, 03:10 AM

Absolutely love my Henry 30-30 brass. Never had a single complaint ......until I tried a different brand side loader. Pretty slick design compared to a tube feed. None the less, zero regrets with my Henry as it functions flawlessly.

jetinteriorguy · May 12, 2018, 06:21 AM

I only have one issue with both my Henry's, better quality finish on the barrels. For the money they should be nice and smooth with a nice deep blueing. For me, I prefer the tube loading, much easier to unload and with the use of loading tubes very fast to reload. But, if I used mine for hunting versus range toys then a side loading gate would be preferable. They could give the best of both worlds and keep the tube loading feature and just add a side loading gate, now that would be the smart move.

Joe-ker · May 12, 2018, 08:03 AM

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They could give the best of both worlds and keep the tube loading feature and just add a side loading gate, now that would be the smart move.

Now that's thinking.

DPris · May 12, 2018, 12:47 PM

Shane,
Gotta take major issue with your statement.

The CEO is the owner, and there isn't a nicer or harder working & more committed guy at the top of any major gunmaker in the industry.
He knows exactly what customer service is, and Henry's is among the best you'll find anywhere.

A group buy is not what customer service means to most of us.

As for the poll- again, patience.

Denis

TruthTellers · May 12, 2018, 01:24 PM

The loading gate. If Henry never makes a lever rifle with a loading gate, I'll never buy another Henry rifle other than a .22 again. If Henry makes said loading gate, I'd buy a .357 Mag and maybe a .45 Colt so long as it's strong enough to handle the hot loads the 1892's can.

Offer some parts that I can swap out with existing Henry rifles so I can shoot .38 Short Colt in .357 Mag, .32 ACP in .327, .45 Cowboy Special in .45 Colt, etc. so I can increase the capacity of the tube magazine.

Make a revolver. I think Henry is planning on doing this sometime in the next few years anyway, but it's something I'd like to see them do. Don't just make an SAA clone, it won't compete with Colt, Uberti, and the Rugers on the market anyway. No, I think it's high time somebody made reproductions of the Merwin-Hulbert.

The Merwin-Hulbert design is very modular, barrels can be changed out easily, cylinders too. Offer two or three different frame sizes, make them in .22, .327, .357, .44, and .45, offer lots of barrel lengths with options of either the classic fixed front sight or removable front sights, and make them in SA, DAO, and DA/SA.

Lastly, Burgess folding shotgun.

DPris · May 12, 2018, 01:32 PM

The MH will never happen.
Too limited a market & too complicated to produce at an affordable price.
Denis

TruthTellers · May 12, 2018, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DPris

The MH will never happen.
Too limited a market & too complicated to produce at an affordable price.
Denis

Henry's rifles today are around $650 for basic lever action. Affordable compared to other lever rifles that cost twice as much, but not exactly cheap and it's not without sacrificing the loading gate.

For a unique, new to market revolver, I can see $8-900 being reasonable and affordable. If at $900 Henry can't make a profit off an MH repro, then something's wrong on the manufacturing side of things. It doesn't have to be an exact copy, just retain the extraction/ejection system and if a few internals need to be tweeked for cost reduction, so be it.

Probably will never happen tho because the Mewin Hulberts weren't in enough of them Westerns 60 years ago.

DPris · May 12, 2018, 02:09 PM

The last try on the always-doomed-to-fail MH project priced them domestically at between $1400-$2000.

There is no way in hell Henry could sell one at a profit for $900.

R&D would be an expensive waste of time & money for a gun the market would not support.

Don't you think if an MH were feasible, either in production or demand, the Italians would have done it long ago?

Back when the MH people were trying to put it together & talking it up at SHOT, Uberti reps dropped into the booth to look, said "Interesting. If you get it going let us know", and walked out again shortly after.

It's not entirely due to lack of Hollywood exposure.
The MH is just not a great design, and there aren't that many people who'd want one.
It couldn't sell enough to recoup R&D.

You're talking Apples vs Cumquats in comparing the MH to a levergun.

The leverguns offer nostalgia and practical function, the MH only offers nostalgia.

The leverguns create enough demand to be profitable in lower-priced volume, whereas the MH could not possibly sell in enough volume as a thoroughly niche gun to bring it down to affordable levels for mass production.

It will not ever happen.
Denis

3Crows · May 12, 2018, 09:52 PM

I do not dislike the hard chrome finish of some Henry rifles but I would much prefer they just use stainless steel. And while true some Marlins, especially newer ones, have chunky fore-stocks, the rifle itself overall is sleeker IMO. If Henry could kind of put some of their metal work on a diet and trim the chunky look away (and add the loading gate) I would be sold on them for sure. But, all that dribble said, the loading gate is the big thing with me. Like, "Hold Everything" Mr. Griz, while I fiddle with this tube thing instead of just sliding in a round or two through the gate without ever coming off the cheek weld from the stock cuff. I just will not give that up on a rifle meant for defense against and hunting of potentially dangerous game/animals. Right or wrong though I may be.

3C

Bamashooter · May 13, 2018, 12:42 AM

I have a Henry 44mag with a 20" barrel and it holds 10 in the tube and one in the chamber. That is plenty of firepower on tap without having to reload. Whats with the "gotta reload quick" crap? If you run out of ammo just open the action, drop one in, close the action and fire if you need another shot fast.
I like the fact that it is similar to the original in the way it loads and not like the Winchesters. I like the weight because the recoil is very light when shooting full power mag loads and almost non existent when shooting softer loads.

They arent used in battle anymore so Im stumped on why you must be able to reload quickly or top it off.
That said, I would like to see 454 Casull, 460 S&W, and or 480 Ruger Henry rifles. Or maybe design one of their own big bore rounds. Until then Im completely happy with the two I have and would honestly love one of the new .308 Winchester lever actions.

eastbank · May 13, 2018, 04:48 AM

no henry,s for me.

PatientWolf · May 13, 2018, 07:01 AM

If Henry really wants to provide something unique, how about a loading gate WITH tube loading capability?

Roaddog · May 13, 2018, 07:22 AM

Henry 45 colt steel will be my next rifle to go along with my 44 mag. and 357.I like the tube much better than the gate.They are smooth and they stand behined there products.It's not a hard choice for me.

Rangerrich99 · May 14, 2018, 09:53 AM

Loading gate, .41 mag would be nice.

Lohman446 · May 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

10MM, a loading gate in brass, under $1000 and I would buy one today

Blade37db · May 14, 2018, 01:56 PM

If Henry really wants to provide something unique, how about a loading gate WITH tube loading capability?

I was thinking the same thing. I would be all over that!

May 10, 2018, 10:10 PM	#2
3Crows Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2017 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 220	A loading gate and sleeker styling, real stainless steel and a laminate/synthetic/carbon fiber stock. 3C Last edited by 3Crows; May 10, 2018 at 10:16 PM.

May 11, 2018, 10:56 AM	#5
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	+1 on the loading gate. __________________ Flicks just like a lighter, just a different kind of fire.

May 11, 2018, 05:52 PM	#8
Shane Tuttle Staff Join Date: November 28, 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 9,443	I'd like to see their Brass, as in, every executive from the CEO to the production manager fired and hire people that know what the term, "customer service" really means. My company, using our local Sportsmans Warehouse rep, tried to get a group buy with them. It was an absolute NIGHTMARE. We canceled the order and went another direction. __________________ If it were up to me, the word "got" would be deleted from the English language. Posting and YOU: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

May 12, 2018, 03:10 AM	#10
Road_Clam Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2013 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,695	Absolutely love my Henry 30-30 brass. Never had a single complaint ......until I tried a different brand side loader. Pretty slick design compared to a tube feed. None the less, zero regrets with my Henry as it functions flawlessly. __________________ "To be old an wise you must have been young and stupid"

May 12, 2018, 01:24 PM	#14
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,883	The loading gate. If Henry never makes a lever rifle with a loading gate, I'll never buy another Henry rifle other than a .22 again. If Henry makes said loading gate, I'd buy a .357 Mag and maybe a .45 Colt so long as it's strong enough to handle the hot loads the 1892's can. Offer some parts that I can swap out with existing Henry rifles so I can shoot .38 Short Colt in .357 Mag, .32 ACP in .327, .45 Cowboy Special in .45 Colt, etc. so I can increase the capacity of the tube magazine. Make a revolver. I think Henry is planning on doing this sometime in the next few years anyway, but it's something I'd like to see them do. Don't just make an SAA clone, it won't compete with Colt, Uberti, and the Rugers on the market anyway. No, I think it's high time somebody made reproductions of the Merwin-Hulbert. The Merwin-Hulbert design is very modular, barrels can be changed out easily, cylinders too. Offer two or three different frame sizes, make them in .22, .327, .357, .44, and .45, offer lots of barrel lengths with options of either the classic fixed front sight or removable front sights, and make them in SA, DAO, and DA/SA. Lastly, Burgess folding shotgun. __________________ "We always think there's gonna be more time... then it runs out."

May 10, 2018, 06:48 PM	#1
44caliberkid Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2017 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,098	Henry Survey I got an email from Henry the other day, asking what I'd like to see in the next Henry. I love the new steel frame Big Boy 44 Mag carbine. I told them, that gun, in 460 S&W- 454 Casull- 45Colt interchangeable.

May 10, 2018, 10:59 PM	#3
Water-Man Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,126	A loading gate, less weight and a reduced price.

May 11, 2018, 05:29 PM	#6
DaleA Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2002 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 5,312	+1 on the loading gate. Yep. Those childhood westerns sure had an effect.

May 11, 2018, 05:34 PM	#7
2wheelwander Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2018 Posts: 539	I got the same email. Loading gate was my first suggestion.

May 12, 2018, 06:21 AM	#11
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,173	I only have one issue with both my Henry's, better quality finish on the barrels. For the money they should be nice and smooth with a nice deep blueing. For me, I prefer the tube loading, much easier to unload and with the use of loading tubes very fast to reload. But, if I used mine for hunting versus range toys then a side loading gate would be preferable. They could give the best of both worlds and keep the tube loading feature and just add a side loading gate, now that would be the smart move.

May 12, 2018, 12:47 PM	#13
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Shane, Gotta take major issue with your statement. The CEO is the owner, and there isn't a nicer or harder working & more committed guy at the top of any major gunmaker in the industry. He knows exactly what customer service is, and Henry's is among the best you'll find anywhere. A group buy is not what customer service means to most of us. As for the poll- again, patience. Denis

May 12, 2018, 01:32 PM	#15
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	The MH will never happen. Too limited a market & too complicated to produce at an affordable price. Denis

May 12, 2018, 02:09 PM	#17
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	The last try on the always-doomed-to-fail MH project priced them domestically at between $1400-$2000. There is no way in hell Henry could sell one at a profit for $900. R&D would be an expensive waste of time & money for a gun the market would not support. Don't you think if an MH were feasible, either in production or demand, the Italians would have done it long ago? Back when the MH people were trying to put it together & talking it up at SHOT, Uberti reps dropped into the booth to look, said "Interesting. If you get it going let us know", and walked out again shortly after. It's not entirely due to lack of Hollywood exposure. The MH is just not a great design, and there aren't that many people who'd want one. It couldn't sell enough to recoup R&D. You're talking Apples vs Cumquats in comparing the MH to a levergun. The leverguns offer nostalgia and practical function, the MH only offers nostalgia. The leverguns create enough demand to be profitable in lower-priced volume, whereas the MH could not possibly sell in enough volume as a thoroughly niche gun to bring it down to affordable levels for mass production. It will not ever happen. Denis

May 12, 2018, 09:52 PM	#18
3Crows Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2017 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 220	I do not dislike the hard chrome finish of some Henry rifles but I would much prefer they just use stainless steel. And while true some Marlins, especially newer ones, have chunky fore-stocks, the rifle itself overall is sleeker IMO. If Henry could kind of put some of their metal work on a diet and trim the chunky look away (and add the loading gate) I would be sold on them for sure. But, all that dribble said, the loading gate is the big thing with me. Like, "Hold Everything" Mr. Griz, while I fiddle with this tube thing instead of just sliding in a round or two through the gate without ever coming off the cheek weld from the stock cuff. I just will not give that up on a rifle meant for defense against and hunting of potentially dangerous game/animals. Right or wrong though I may be. 3C

May 13, 2018, 12:42 AM	#19
Bamashooter Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2010 Posts: 1,860	I have a Henry 44mag with a 20" barrel and it holds 10 in the tube and one in the chamber. That is plenty of firepower on tap without having to reload. Whats with the "gotta reload quick" crap? If you run out of ammo just open the action, drop one in, close the action and fire if you need another shot fast. I like the fact that it is similar to the original in the way it loads and not like the Winchesters. I like the weight because the recoil is very light when shooting full power mag loads and almost non existent when shooting softer loads. They arent used in battle anymore so Im stumped on why you must be able to reload quickly or top it off. That said, I would like to see 454 Casull, 460 S&W, and or 480 Ruger Henry rifles. Or maybe design one of their own big bore rounds. Until then Im completely happy with the two I have and would honestly love one of the new .308 Winchester lever actions.

May 13, 2018, 04:48 AM	#20
eastbank Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2008 Location: pa. Posts: 2,450	no henry,s for me.

May 13, 2018, 07:01 AM	#21
PatientWolf Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Location: NC Posts: 946	If Henry really wants to provide something unique, how about a loading gate WITH tube loading capability?

May 13, 2018, 07:22 AM	#22
Roaddog Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2010 Location: East central Minnesota Posts: 202	Henry 45 colt steel will be my next rifle to go along with my 44 mag. and 357.I like the tube much better than the gate.They are smooth and they stand behined there products.It's not a hard choice for me.

May 14, 2018, 09:53 AM	#23
Rangerrich99 Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2014 Location: Kinda near Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,254	Loading gate, .41 mag would be nice.

May 14, 2018, 10:11 AM	#24
Lohman446 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2016 Posts: 2,192	10MM, a loading gate in brass, under $1000 and I would buy one today

May 14, 2018, 01:56 PM	#25
Blade37db Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2005 Posts: 282	If Henry really wants to provide something unique, how about a loading gate WITH tube loading capability? I was thinking the same thing. I would be all over that!