10th Anniversary LCP

SIMP · October 1, 2018, 10:32 AM

Have y'all seen this yet? I put me one on order this weekend. I've always liked the trigger Ruger put on the Custom model but never cared for the sights. Now I can get the same style trigger on my favorite version of Elsie. Cheers!

https://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/specSheets/3790.html

Model12Win · October 1, 2018, 12:34 PM

Oh look, the Elsie Trash.

My broke HARD within 60 rounds fired. JUNK!

SIMP · October 1, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Model12Win

My broke HARD within 60 rounds fired. JUNK!

Oh wow! I don't think I'd trust it anymore either. However, I've owned several LCP's and had nothing but good results from mine.

gnystrom · October 1, 2018, 12:58 PM

I have two. One with the Sweet Pea trigger. Both run like a stolen car. One of the two is in my pocket on my daily 4 mile walks.

TruthTellers · October 1, 2018, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Model12Win

Oh look, the Elsie Trash.

My broke HARD within 60 rounds fired. JUNK!

The little .380's can be hit or miss in quality. I have two LCP's, probably have put under 100 rds in each, and they're still good.

The micro .380's aren't meant to be shot a lot. If you want a pocket .380 that you can shoot and shoot and shoot, get the Sig 938 or a Micro Desert Eagle.

MandolinMan · October 1, 2018, 05:21 PM

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Oh look, the Elsie Trash.

My broke HARD within 60 rounds fired. JUNK!

Ruger has sold many, many of these little pistols over the last ten years and overall they seem to have a fairly good reputation.

Armybrat · October 1, 2018, 09:13 PM

Ruger has sold over 1.5 million LCP pistols in 10 years.
The market has spoken.

Chainsaw. · October 1, 2018, 10:07 PM

I like the two tone. Adds nothing more that asthetics but still cool.

On the subject of reliability, my budy has one that Ive out at least 100 rounds through. He’s out several hundred through.
I had a Nissan that broke once, doesn’t mean all of em are junk.

kozak6 · October 2, 2018, 04:29 AM

I find it intriguing.

I like the stainless slide and a less obnoxious LCP Custom trigger. The chevron style slide serrations look pretty sharp, although forward slide serrations seem a little silly on such a small pistol. I don't care about the engraving, but it's harmless.

My pocket has been screaming for something like this, except now my wallet is starting to agree. If I saw one in person for a good price, I'd have to bite. Thankfully, my local gun shop only has regular LCP's for some $375 or so.

It's pretty weird that this one is made in NC, while all the rest are made in Prescott. Anyone know anything about that?

mk70ss · October 2, 2018, 05:36 AM

Mine has been perfect over the 5 years I’ve had it. They are great little pocket guns.

Fishbed77 · October 2, 2018, 08:57 AM

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Oh wow! I don't think I'd trust it anymore either. However, I've owned several LCP's and had nothing but good results from mine.

A quick search will show that many of that particular posters claims are full of hyperbole or outright trollish content.

While there is no doubt that a tiny number of LCPs have had problems, or were subject to an early recall, the vast majority have been extremely reliable.

lee n. field · October 2, 2018, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SIMP

Have y'all seen this yet? I put me one on order this weekend. I've always liked the trigger Ruger put on the Custom model but never cared for the sights. Now I can get the same style trigger on my favorite version of Elsie. Cheers!

https://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/specSheets/3790.html

The "LCP Classic" needs better sights more than a custom trigger.

"Ruger Mayodan NC" -- new manufacturing location?

K_Mac · October 2, 2018, 08:29 PM

I once shot a Colt 1911with feed issues. It had less than 200 rounds through it when took a trip back for repairs. Does that make Colt 1911s junk M12? I have an LCP that shoots everything I put in it and has done so for several thousand rounds. I've also shot a bunch of others. I think the new version would make a fine addition to any pocket gun collection.

Cheapshooter · October 2, 2018, 08:46 PM

My gen 1 LCP has never failed. While it's approaching that ten years it hasn't been a weekly range gun so the round count isn't in the four digits. May be nearing it though because I like to keep familiar with it, and in my opion it fun to shoot. It is carried every day, shows some finish wear, but is 100% reliable. The sights are perfect, I don't use them. It was never intended to be a 25 yard "target" gun, and at 7-10 yards all my shots are on target. The trigger is just fine....for the same reason. It's a self defense pocket gun intended for up close, and personal encounters where there is no time for careful, and deliberate aim or "trigger control".

FrankenMauser · October 2, 2018, 09:13 PM

For $200... maybe.
For $300... nope.

I do think they're good pistols, but mine suffered a nasty string of malfunctions (and never got better) after a strange failure*.
After that, I couldn't trust it. I sold it, sold the spare magazines, and gave away the holsters.

*(Factory Hornady ammo. I fired a few rounds, and then there was a strange, extra-loud 'pop', but with lower-than-usual recoil. I was hit in the face by a copper ring (it landed on my sleeve), and the case failed to eject. No defects were noted. But, from then on, the pistol malfunctioned constantly with ALL ammo. FTFs, FTEs, strange stovepipes, mangled cases, and more. It went from reliable enough for daily carry, to an absolute dog with one trigger pull...
Yea, Ruger might have been able to repair it. But I had bigger fish to fry. It was easier to drop it with full disclosure and move on with life.)

Carl the Floor Walker · October 14, 2018, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Armybrat

Ruger has sold over 1.5 million LCP pistols in 10 years.
The market has spoken.

Yes, the Market has spoken Army Brat. And it demonstrates the Power of Advertising. I can only imagine how much Ruger spent in advertising dollars on these. Cheap to make, and and a lot of profit on a inexpensive firearm. Most popular among the masses of new shooters certainly does NOT mean the Best firearm in class. Yes, they sold Millions, but how many of those never saw more than a few trips to the range. Especially after a few times of shooting these little beast. And for those that shot them often, had them totally fail with any substantial amount of ammodown range?
You and I know there are many superior 380's pocket guns available. And Many of these will not even be carried in a local LGS.
The LCP is a gun sellers favorite firearm to sell to the Newbie. They are cute, they do not cost much, and Backed by Ruger great customer service. Shooting them is a completely different matter .
Pathetic sights, high recoil, aluminum chassis. If you really want one, find a used one. I have seen them down to $100 at almost new condition, people just get rid of them in masses as well.

KyJim · October 14, 2018, 07:34 AM

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My broke HARD within 60 rounds fired. JUNK!

Instant Karma? Seriously, there's way too many LCPs out there that function well to simply declare the gun a piece of junk. I have one of the earlier models, complete with horrible trigger. But, I've never had a problem with it and often pocket-carry it.

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Cheap to make, and and a lot of profit on a inexpensive firearm.

The dream of any manufacturer. They are what they are. Functional.

Bill DeShivs · October 15, 2018, 09:23 PM

Ruger didn't even have R&D costs, they just copied the Keltec P3AT.

Carl the Floor Walker · October 16, 2018, 02:04 AM

Yes they are functional and reliable for the most part. However they are very cheaply made no matter how you cut it. They are reliable until they are not. For those that actually train on a pocket gun, shoot them on a regular basis, soon find out they will crack grips, frames, split rails, broken take down pins etc.
They do not put nice sights on these guns, Not because a pocket gun does not need them, but because it is too expensive to manufacturer.
They are what they are. A Cheap pocket gun for those that will not shoot often and carry a lot. However, these folks are doing themselves a disfavor. A pocket gun is not for beginners and they do require consistent training.
Get yourself a better built gun. The will be milder to shoot, have night sights or the ability to get them. They will be made of stainless steel or at least stainless steel inserts at the stress points in the Grip frame.
By the way, you can go to their forum and do a search of LCP problems and there will be pages of them. The good part is Ruger will replace the broken down guns. I had a number of them replaced. I still have one, but no longer shoot it.

K_Mac · October 16, 2018, 09:07 AM

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For those that actually train on a pocket gun, shoot them on a regular basis, soon find out they will crack grips, frames, split rails, broken take down pins etc.

That has not been my experience, and I shoot mine regularly. I have several thousand rounds through mine, which represents a far bigger investment in ammo than the gun itself. I clean and inspect mine often as well and see no evidence of the failures mentioned. When mine shows evidence of excessive wear or impending failure I will buy another. I'll get back to you on that.

Eazyeach · October 16, 2018, 07:21 PM

Looks kinda cool.

wild cat mccane · October 19, 2018, 06:38 AM

I sent my new $160 LCP to Metaloy Works and for $90 I got the slide, barrel, guide rod, and take down pin hard chromed.

Having owned the LCP in stainless, the barrel is still poorly coated.

Having owned a Custom and a gen2 at the same time, I assure you, there is zero difference in trigger weight between the metal trigger and the plastic trigger from Ruger.

I would still opt for the Metaloy Works hard chroming of the barrel at a few bucks more.

Story on my Stainless LCP vs my Hard Chrome: https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=591618

October 1, 2018, 10:32 AM	#1
SIMP Senior Member Join Date: October 2, 2005 Location: Mississippi Posts: 398	10th Anniversary LCP Have y'all seen this yet? I put me one on order this weekend. I've always liked the trigger Ruger put on the Custom model but never cared for the sights. Now I can get the same style trigger on my favorite version of Elsie. Cheers! https://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/specSheets/3790.html

October 1, 2018, 10:07 PM	#8
Chainsaw. Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2015 Location: Issaquah WA. Its a dry rain. Posts: 1,774	I like the two tone. Adds nothing more that asthetics but still cool. On the subject of reliability, my budy has one that Ive out at least 100 rounds through. He’s out several hundred through. I had a Nissan that broke once, doesn’t mean all of em are junk. __________________ Just shoot the damn thing.

October 2, 2018, 05:36 AM	#10
mk70ss Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,598	Mine has been perfect over the 5 years I’ve had it. They are great little pocket guns. __________________ Say when.....

October 2, 2018, 08:29 PM	#13
K_Mac Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2010 Posts: 1,850	I once shot a Colt 1911with feed issues. It had less than 200 rounds through it when took a trip back for repairs. Does that make Colt 1911s junk M12? I have an LCP that shoots everything I put in it and has done so for several thousand rounds. I've also shot a bunch of others. I think the new version would make a fine addition to any pocket gun collection. __________________ "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Benjamin Franklin

October 2, 2018, 08:46 PM	#14
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	My gen 1 LCP has never failed. While it's approaching that ten years it hasn't been a weekly range gun so the round count isn't in the four digits. May be nearing it though because I like to keep familiar with it, and in my opion it fun to shoot. It is carried every day, shows some finish wear, but is 100% reliable. The sights are perfect, I don't use them. It was never intended to be a 25 yard "target" gun, and at 7-10 yards all my shots are on target. The trigger is just fine....for the same reason. It's a self defense pocket gun intended for up close, and personal encounters where there is no time for careful, and deliberate aim or "trigger control". __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

October 1, 2018, 12:34 PM	#2
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Oh look, the Elsie Trash. My broke HARD within 60 rounds fired. JUNK!

October 1, 2018, 12:58 PM	#4
gnystrom Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2006 Posts: 308	I have two. One with the Sweet Pea trigger. Both run like a stolen car. One of the two is in my pocket on my daily 4 mile walks.

October 1, 2018, 09:13 PM	#7
Armybrat Senior Member Join Date: May 10, 2009 Location: Round Rock, Texas Posts: 976	Ruger has sold over 1.5 million LCP pistols in 10 years. The market has spoken.

October 2, 2018, 04:29 AM	#9
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	I find it intriguing. I like the stainless slide and a less obnoxious LCP Custom trigger. The chevron style slide serrations look pretty sharp, although forward slide serrations seem a little silly on such a small pistol. I don't care about the engraving, but it's harmless. My pocket has been screaming for something like this, except now my wallet is starting to agree. If I saw one in person for a good price, I'd have to bite. Thankfully, my local gun shop only has regular LCP's for some $375 or so. It's pretty weird that this one is made in NC, while all the rest are made in Prescott. Anyone know anything about that?

October 2, 2018, 09:13 PM	#15
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	For $200... maybe. For $300... nope. I do think they're good pistols, but mine suffered a nasty string of malfunctions (and never got better) after a strange failure. After that, I couldn't trust it. I sold it, sold the spare magazines, and gave away the holsters. (Factory Hornady ammo. I fired a few rounds, and then there was a strange, extra-loud 'pop', but with lower-than-usual recoil. I was hit in the face by a copper ring (it landed on my sleeve), and the case failed to eject. No defects were noted. But, from then on, the pistol malfunctioned constantly with ALL ammo. FTFs, FTEs, strange stovepipes, mangled cases, and more. It went from reliable enough for daily carry, to an absolute dog with one trigger pull... Yea, Ruger might have been able to repair it. But I had bigger fish to fry. It was easier to drop it with full disclosure and move on with life.) __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

October 15, 2018, 09:23 PM	#18
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,985	Ruger didn't even have R&D costs, they just copied the Keltec P3AT. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

October 16, 2018, 02:04 AM	#19
Carl the Floor Walker member Join Date: June 3, 2017 Location: South Posts: 1,422	Yes they are functional and reliable for the most part. However they are very cheaply made no matter how you cut it. They are reliable until they are not. For those that actually train on a pocket gun, shoot them on a regular basis, soon find out they will crack grips, frames, split rails, broken take down pins etc. They do not put nice sights on these guns, Not because a pocket gun does not need them, but because it is too expensive to manufacturer. They are what they are. A Cheap pocket gun for those that will not shoot often and carry a lot. However, these folks are doing themselves a disfavor. A pocket gun is not for beginners and they do require consistent training. Get yourself a better built gun. The will be milder to shoot, have night sights or the ability to get them. They will be made of stainless steel or at least stainless steel inserts at the stress points in the Grip frame. By the way, you can go to their forum and do a search of LCP problems and there will be pages of them. The good part is Ruger will replace the broken down guns. I had a number of them replaced. I still have one, but no longer shoot it.

October 16, 2018, 07:21 PM	#21
Eazyeach Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2014 Posts: 706	Looks kinda cool.

October 19, 2018, 06:38 AM	#22
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,627	I sent my new $160 LCP to Metaloy Works and for $90 I got the slide, barrel, guide rod, and take down pin hard chromed. Having owned the LCP in stainless, the barrel is still poorly coated. Having owned a Custom and a gen2 at the same time, I assure you, there is zero difference in trigger weight between the metal trigger and the plastic trigger from Ruger. I would still opt for the Metaloy Works hard chroming of the barrel at a few bucks more. Story on my Stainless LCP vs my Hard Chrome: https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=591618