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Old July 10, 2014, 12:05 PM   #1
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Savage Fox model B 16ga.

i have a Savage Fox model B 16ga. is this something worth holding on to or trading in. i am looking @ a mp 9c. i never shoot it and it looks like getting 16 ga shells is a pain. any opinion would help.
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Old July 10, 2014, 12:21 PM   #2
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You will almost never get a good value trading a gun in. If you want to "upgrade" then sell it outright and use the cash. A quick check of Gunbroker's completed auctions showed prices for sold 16ga model Bs anywhere from the mid $200s to over $600 (plus some guy thinking he could get over $11K for a mint condition gun - it didnt' get any bids obviously).
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Old July 10, 2014, 05:00 PM   #3
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There are a few guys who will pay more than they should for those. I bought one in high school over 40 years ago with money earned mowing lawns. It was by far the worst gun I've ever had in my house.

But being American made and in 16 ga you might be surprised at how much it could bring, and who knows what the future holds. You aren't going to be able to put the kids through college with the profits, but it might improve some. Lots of folks just want one to have one. Not a good choice to go out and shoot a lot.
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Old July 11, 2014, 08:07 PM   #4
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Since the same 16 gauge concerns the OP has apply as well to any buyer, and the Fox B was pretty much a bottom line double, I wouldn't count on getting a lot of money for the gun. In average good condition, they bring around $250-300 retail.

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Old July 12, 2014, 09:02 PM   #5
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"the Fox B was pretty much a bottom line double, I wouldn't count on getting a lot of money for the gun. In average good condition, they bring around $250-300 retail"
In the last 10 years, haven't seen a Fox Model B(in reasonable condition) regardless of gauge sell for less than it cost brand new. In fact 20 gauge guns are bringing 2-3 times their new cost.
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Old July 15, 2014, 12:19 PM   #6
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Some of you guys should take a trip to Cablas and look at the prices they have on these. Almost as bad as a guy that thinks they're made of solid gold.

I have one in 12 gauge that's one of the last ones produced and I've seen similar ones ranging from $600-1100. The problem wit gun places is if you sell it to them you will only get 60% of the value at best. So if it's worth $1000 then you get $600. But if they think it's worth $300 then it's only worth $180.

Like they said it is rarely profitable to sell a gun.

I'm keeping mine. It's a great double.

The main problem is the one in question being 16 gauge. Someone may want to feed it but not the average joe.
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Old July 15, 2014, 10:11 PM   #7
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Take a look at this. I don't know what book is posted, but it looks like the gun tops out at $450 in 100% condition.

Sorry. Left off link

Notice that the 20 gauge is worth more than a 16

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Old July 16, 2014, 04:32 AM   #8
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Sounds like you should take that sucker over to Cabelas.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Savag...ge/1644053.uts
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Old July 24, 2014, 11:55 AM   #9
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WHICH Fox B?

Everyone has their "druthers" but as an old double shot fan, first question I would have is WHICH Fox B? Cut checkering or stamped? What animal was worked into the bottom of the receiver?

Not a fan at all of the stamped checkering later versions that came out in 3 inch in the 20 an 12 gauges and there might be a FEW of the earlier version that were 3 inch but.

There exists another Fox B before that that was hand checkered with different (and better IMO but I like older guns) metal work.

Just 2 cents.

The link below is an example of a 16ga in the earlier version. While the post above to is to A link of "Savage B prices" (but such is never carved in stone when compared to recent sales a lot of time)...I don't see the BSE versions of later years out selling the fine old ones in good shape price wise....except for a few 410s. Just my observation.

So many versions it takes considerable amounts of time to see and handle many of them. Ive seen both Sears and Wards "shop" versions made by Stevens for each that were to die for handling them. There exists similar shop versions made for them from Ithaca and Miroku too but many more Stevens/Savage versions.

I am currently waiting for delivery of a Westernfield SB-530A Deluxe that is tough to find in a 20 gauge in the company issue 530A-ST single trigger, cut checkering, and center bead MUCH like the Fox B in the link below. Discontinued around 54 and not a lot of 20 gauges were made back then with the 16ga being all the "new" rage.

Personally, trade value don't mean a much, not at my age but even that can change radically quick on older shotguns and rifles. Ive seen the same model double in "current selling price" in as little as 2 years so I just buy what I like, what feels good and in good shape........and go shoot chit.

I know Cabela's has some nice stuff but feel they must have a long line of customers with deep pockets. It's rare for me to find one there that I cannot find another just like it for about 20-25 percent less UNLESS its something really high dollar and rare to begin with and if I could afford one of those.......I'd take what popped up and dang the price. Maybe someday.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=412113028

God Bless

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Old July 24, 2014, 12:12 PM   #10
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If I can get north of $600 for my Fox BSE in 20, I'll take it!
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Old August 17, 2014, 09:38 AM   #11
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I'm interested if you still have it.
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Old August 17, 2014, 11:16 AM   #12
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i have a fox sterlingworth 16ga made in the late 30,s in utica with savage marked barrels and its a joy to shot and carry, much better than a newer savage fox. eastbank.
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Old August 17, 2014, 12:06 PM   #13
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I might be interested, depending on the price. I inherited a Fox Model B and really liked it because it was a "plane Jane" working gun. Nothing fancy about it so it didn't matter if it got a few dings in the field, of which it had several.

My daughter went to kill a rattlesnake in the garden with it and was so flustered she forgot to load it. She pulled the trigger and nothing happened so she beat the snake to death with it and in the process bent the barrel. She later told me, "There's something wrong with that gun. It didn't shoot!" There's plenty wrong with it now. On the other hand, I've got an undamaged daughter.

My father "liberated" a Drilling from an Austrian farmer in WW II and it was S X S 16 gauge over an 8mm rifle. So he didn't have to worry about getting the wrong load (i.e. 20 in a 16 or 16 in a 12) in a gun (or one of his kids doing same) everything he had was 16 gauge. That got me started on 16 gauge and everything I have now is 16 gauge. I retired the Drilling about 15 years ago.

Long story short, I liked that single trigger Model B but I'm not going to throw a lot of money at replacing it. So I'm looking for one of the plainer ones for dove and quail. PM me with an email address and we'll talk if you're still interested.
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Old August 17, 2014, 01:01 PM   #14
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Always interested and still have it.
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Old August 17, 2014, 01:25 PM   #15
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Is this the "Fox BSE in 20"? I'm looking for 16 gauge. I was interested in ctshep97's original post or eastbank's 16 gauge.

If you got the OP's gun, email me photos and price.
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Old August 17, 2014, 04:23 PM   #16
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Mine is a 20, not a 16 - sorry
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Old December 24, 2014, 02:46 AM   #17
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16ga

' The main problem is the one in question being 16 gauge. Someone may want to feed it but not the average joe. ' Ya gotta really be into reloading to buy a 16 ga....I bought a pretty H & R single-shot 16 ga several years ago, mainly because it was inexpensive. Had NO idea how scarce 16 ga can be....now, have 1000+ hulls laid in, Lachmiller shell saver in 16ga & 12 ga.... Lee .54 Minie works well for solids...

I have become very fond of the 16 ga / H & R ssba combo.
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Old December 24, 2014, 04:45 AM   #18
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Oddly enough I have seen a good amount of 16 gauge shells lately but those stores might not order much more since they're not disappearing fast enough.

I'm glad my fox is a 12 gauge. If I can find one for the right price it would be nice to get one in 20.
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