Lube for black powder pistols?

maillemaker · August 8, 2011, 10:22 AM

So I'm nearly out of the tubes of goo that came with my CVA 1851 navy pistols.

What do you guys use for lube over your bullets when shooting round ball in your BP pistols?

I remember some folks talking about pouring out some kind of lube and using a .45 case to cut out little disks?

Steve

Lee McNelly · August 8, 2011, 11:28 AM

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=26524

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Lee McNelly · August 8, 2011, 11:36 AM

wad infor and punch set infor

Antique Shooter · August 8, 2011, 02:13 PM

Steve, I have been using TC Bore Butter for the last few years, and it has been working great. I use it for my BP revolvers, flintlock pistols, and flintlock rifles. I would highly recommend it. It comes in a tube. It smells good too!!
Antique Shooter

Busyhands94 · August 8, 2011, 02:26 PM

melt two parts Crisco and one part paraffin. you can add pine or wintergreen oil to make it smell good, or if you're taking the wife or daughter shooting then you can add a little lavender extract if that's their kinda thing. i made some for when i take my mum shooting, she seems to like the smell better than regular Crisco.

Hawg · August 8, 2011, 02:51 PM

The bad thing about Bore Butter and straight Crisco is they get really runny in summer heat.

timothy75 · August 8, 2011, 03:01 PM

Lube disks are usually used in BP cartridges not C&B pistos. I use lubed wads in some of my C&B pistols you can get them from buffaloarms.com in 1000 packs. Wads are a lot cleaner than lube on the cylinder face in my experience. Good luck

Osage · August 8, 2011, 03:37 PM

I use a recipe of mutton tallow, a little bees wax and maybe some bore butter to keep it soft. Melt, pour in a shallow pan to cool. Use a cartridge for a cookie cutter and stack them up in layers on wax paper. I put them on top of the powder and under the ball in my c&b revolvers. Cuts way down on fouling. The trick is to not get it too stiff or too soft (did I just say that?)

Doc Hoy · August 8, 2011, 04:18 PM

I have a very uninteresting mixture of Crisco and wax rings from toilets at about half and half. It washes up clean. Stays where you put it in hot weather. Does a good job of keeping the cylinder rotating on a Remington. Doesn't form a residue. Easy to adjust the mixture for hotter weather. And it is cheap.

Some don't like it because the wax rings are not wax anymore, they are some kind of goop.

And, as you can see it is not very exotic. No olive oil, mutton tallow, polymerized styrene and acrylonitrile with polybutadiene. No nanotechnology. Nothing that requires rendering the brain of a moose.

But it works pretty good for me.

Hawg · August 8, 2011, 04:35 PM

LOL Doc, I'm gonna hafta try one. Beeswax is getting harder to find and more expensive.

maillemaker · August 8, 2011, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Steve, I have been using TC Bore Butter for the last few years, and it has been working great. I use it for my BP revolvers, flintlock pistols, and flintlock rifles. I would highly recommend it. It comes in a tube. It smells good too!!
Antique Shooter

Sounds good!

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melt two parts Crisco and one part paraffin.

Well this is basically what I'm using to lube my bullets in my Enfield rifle - 1 part beeswax to 2 parts crisco.

I'm thinking of buying a large syringe that I can pour molten lube into so that I can squirt it into the chambers of the C&B pistol to cap off the balls.

The CVA Grease Patch I had been using came in a handy tube.

Steve

Antique Shooter · August 8, 2011, 06:57 PM

I havn't had problem with Bore Butter being runny with temps in the 100's, nor did I have problems with it freezing in sub 0 temps. Antique Shooter

Hawg · August 8, 2011, 07:16 PM

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I havn't had problem with Bore Butter being runny with temps in the 100's, nor did I have problems with it freezing in sub 0 temps.

Maybe they new and improved it. All I ever had got runny once the temps got close to 90.

Doc Hoy · August 8, 2011, 07:46 PM

Maybe they changed it up. I went through four tubes of the stuff over an 18 month period and never got consistency thicker than 10-30 motor oil when I shot in the summer.

I wonder if they made it smell any different. I was tempted to put it on some vanilla ice cream.

I guess you can tell that I don't like the stuff. Even if it performed perfectly as some of our shooters claim it does, it is about four times as expensive as Crisco and toilet donuts.

Hawg · August 8, 2011, 07:57 PM

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Even if it performed perfectly as some of our shooters claim it does, it is about four times as expensive as Crisco and toilet donuts.

Yep. I've got about three tubes of the stuff left I got on a clearance sale. I mostly use it for bore lube after cleaning now. It's a waste of time to lube a bunch of minies and then have it all drain off before I get a chance to shoot them. It does ok on patches for round balls but it's still messy.

Antique Shooter · August 8, 2011, 10:33 PM

The worst I have ever had it was like tooth paste from a tube, and that was when it was 102-103 degrees. How do you store your minnies? I have had a few lubed patches and a big dollop of bore butter in a snuff can in my possibles bag since Christmas, and when I went to the range the other day, the dollop was just as I left it. It seems to stay on my .54 and .58 minnies pretty good. I don't know, maybe it is a different batch.

Antique Shooter

madcratebuilder · August 9, 2011, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Haggen, H

LOL Doc, I'm gonna hafta try one. Beeswax is getting harder to find and more expensive.

Used to be cheap on evil bay. I bought a twenty pound block, cost more to ship and the actual wax.

August 8, 2011, 10:22 AM	#1
maillemaker Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2010 Posts: 1,635	Lube for black powder pistols? So I'm nearly out of the tubes of goo that came with my CVA 1851 navy pistols. What do you guys use for lube over your bullets when shooting round ball in your BP pistols? I remember some folks talking about pouring out some kind of lube and using a .45 case to cut out little disks? Steve

August 8, 2011, 11:28 AM	#2
Lee McNelly Junior member Join Date: June 9, 2011 Posts: 325	black powder lube and lubes in gen http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=26524 you might want to print and save for records

August 8, 2011, 11:36 AM	#3
Lee McNelly Junior member Join Date: June 9, 2011 Posts: 325	wads wad infor and punch set infor

August 8, 2011, 04:18 PM	#9
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Hawg + 1 I have a very uninteresting mixture of Crisco and wax rings from toilets at about half and half. It washes up clean. Stays where you put it in hot weather. Does a good job of keeping the cylinder rotating on a Remington. Doesn't form a residue. Easy to adjust the mixture for hotter weather. And it is cheap. Some don't like it because the wax rings are not wax anymore, they are some kind of goop. And, as you can see it is not very exotic. No olive oil, mutton tallow, polymerized styrene and acrylonitrile with polybutadiene. No nanotechnology. Nothing that requires rendering the brain of a moose. But it works pretty good for me. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. Last edited by Doc Hoy; August 8, 2011 at 04:24 PM.

August 8, 2011, 07:46 PM	#14
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Hawg + 1 Maybe they changed it up. I went through four tubes of the stuff over an 18 month period and never got consistency thicker than 10-30 motor oil when I shot in the summer. I wonder if they made it smell any different. I was tempted to put it on some vanilla ice cream. I guess you can tell that I don't like the stuff. Even if it performed perfectly as some of our shooters claim it does, it is about four times as expensive as Crisco and toilet donuts. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 8, 2011, 02:13 PM	#4
Antique Shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2010 Location: South Central Pennsylvania Posts: 106	Steve, I have been using TC Bore Butter for the last few years, and it has been working great. I use it for my BP revolvers, flintlock pistols, and flintlock rifles. I would highly recommend it. It comes in a tube. It smells good too!! Antique Shooter

August 8, 2011, 02:26 PM	#5
Busyhands94 Member Join Date: August 7, 2011 Posts: 31	melt two parts Crisco and one part paraffin. you can add pine or wintergreen oil to make it smell good, or if you're taking the wife or daughter shooting then you can add a little lavender extract if that's their kinda thing. i made some for when i take my mum shooting, she seems to like the smell better than regular Crisco.

August 8, 2011, 02:51 PM	#6
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	The bad thing about Bore Butter and straight Crisco is they get really runny in summer heat.

August 8, 2011, 03:01 PM	#7
timothy75 Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2005 Location: Nevada Posts: 1,146	Lube disks are usually used in BP cartridges not C&B pistos. I use lubed wads in some of my C&B pistols you can get them from buffaloarms.com in 1000 packs. Wads are a lot cleaner than lube on the cylinder face in my experience. Good luck

August 8, 2011, 03:37 PM	#8
Osage Member Join Date: September 27, 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 69	I use a recipe of mutton tallow, a little bees wax and maybe some bore butter to keep it soft. Melt, pour in a shallow pan to cool. Use a cartridge for a cookie cutter and stack them up in layers on wax paper. I put them on top of the powder and under the ball in my c&b revolvers. Cuts way down on fouling. The trick is to not get it too stiff or too soft (did I just say that?)

August 8, 2011, 04:35 PM	#10
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	LOL Doc, I'm gonna hafta try one. Beeswax is getting harder to find and more expensive.

August 8, 2011, 06:57 PM	#12
Antique Shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2010 Location: South Central Pennsylvania Posts: 106	I havn't had problem with Bore Butter being runny with temps in the 100's, nor did I have problems with it freezing in sub 0 temps. Antique Shooter

August 8, 2011, 10:33 PM	#16
Antique Shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2010 Location: South Central Pennsylvania Posts: 106	The worst I have ever had it was like tooth paste from a tube, and that was when it was 102-103 degrees. How do you store your minnies? I have had a few lubed patches and a big dollop of bore butter in a snuff can in my possibles bag since Christmas, and when I went to the range the other day, the dollop was just as I left it. It seems to stay on my .54 and .58 minnies pretty good. I don't know, maybe it is a different batch. Antique Shooter

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