What guns are good for a Cowboy Action beginer - Page 2

Hawg · February 20, 2008, 10:33 PM

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I can pick up a cast iron engine block for a Buick 455 engine and put it in my trunk without an engine hoist

You'll pay the price for stuff like that later on too, maybe sooner than you think.

Chris_B · February 20, 2008, 10:38 PM

At 36, I'm still waiting for that time

being able to do a thing, and doing it dangerously are two different things as I'm sure we all know from being around firearms. I said I *can* do it, not that I make a habit out of it

The 455 block never was a problem. The 318 block that fell on my hand was, though

Chris_B · February 20, 2008, 10:41 PM

mykeal-

some guys own more than one gun

I own more than one car

RDF · February 20, 2008, 11:24 PM

I started with and still have a EAA Bounty Hunter and a U.S Firearms Rodeo both .38's, A puma 92 in .357 but shoot .38 w/ 158gr Bullets, That's what the SASS book said targets were set to be knock down with. Later I purchased the Spartan by Remmington in 12ga coach gun. You don't have to have every gun to start, go to a match and ask questions. My first match I was loaned a set of holster's with tuned Ruger's and a shotgun. Everbody I meet were very freindly and helpful.

Rick
Preacher's Son

1858Remington · February 21, 2008, 08:54 AM

For starting out I would suggest a brace of Ruger Vaqueros.

The ruger is highly customizable, and there are PLENTY of aftermarket parts and gunslicking kits for them.

If you want to go black, get a brace of 1858 Remmington style C&B revolvers, like those sold by Uberti and Pedisoli.

The remmies are easier to change cylinders, and have a proper rear site, colts aren't and don't.

Rifle wise, good beginner guns are the Marlin cowboy, and the Henry Big Boy rifles. The henry has an awsome action out of the box, and the marlin is easy to make have an awsome action. The henry is a little less expensive as well.

I bought the Henry, I found it to be plesent to shoot and very accurate. Its selling point to me was the tube loading. The gate on the marlins always seem to bite my fingers.

Shotgun wise, buy an old double. I got a stevens 311a for $35. or a new stoger.

Word to the wise: Make sure your pistols and rifle are the same caliber!!! saves confusion on the range.

hope this helps

Jbar4Ranch · February 21, 2008, 12:36 PM

The bad comments I hear about the Henry Big Boy outnumber the good comments by at least twenty to one. They make a super .22 levergun though.

bobotech · February 22, 2008, 12:23 AM

What about the 87 shotgun? I am buying a Norinco 97 shotgun from Aimsurplus (199 dollars new in box, should be at my FFL next friday) but I saw one of those 87s at my local shop last week and was highly intrigued by the lever action on it.

robhof · February 22, 2008, 01:29 AM

A few of the locals here use B/p loads in their Rugers and lever guns, really smokes up the place, but it's period correct and a lot cheaper to load, as long as you use mildly compressed loads. Cleaning is a whole other boat though.

fat old gun nut · February 22, 2008, 04:42 PM

Am I wrong but 30-30 was mentioned. I thought only pistol calibers were permitted. PLEASE correct me I hate to wander around with miss information

Hawg · February 22, 2008, 04:50 PM

30-30's are not allowed. Pistol caliber only.

tplumeri · February 22, 2008, 07:11 PM

My bad (re 30-30)
but what better "cowboy gun" is there? (referring to a winchester 94 30-30)

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I can pick up a cast iron engine block for a Buick 455 engine and put it in my trunk without an engine hoist

the 455 was overrated. was even too heavy to use as a boat anchor.......

jwaldo4 · February 23, 2008, 01:09 PM

ok you have blasted each others fire arms, all in jest

"i hope" any way, is there a difference between the 45/70 govt. and the sharps 45/70?

or is it just in my mind? i know the sharps was black powder but is that the only difference?

Hawg · February 23, 2008, 01:31 PM

In 1875 Sharps came out with the 45-75 Sharps, sometimes called the 45-70 Sharps but it was just a marketing ploy. It's the same as the 45-70 Govt.

Hawg · February 23, 2008, 01:33 PM

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but what better "cowboy gun" is there? (referring to a winchester 94 30-30)

Winchester 66, Winchester 73. I'm partial to the 73 but don't own either.

tplumeri · February 23, 2008, 02:48 PM

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Winchester 73

they are nice, but just saw a 50% gun advertised for 2 grand! Ill stick with my 94.

BTW the 73 came in 32-20 which is what one of my vaqueros is chambered in.
so is the 32-20 a pistol round, according to the regs?

Hawg · February 23, 2008, 03:53 PM

Yep, along with 38-40 and 44-40. The 38-55 is a rifle cartridge.
Repros can be had for around 800.

February 21, 2008, 12:36 PM	#31
Jbar4Ranch Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 1999 Location: Near Helena, Montana Posts: 1,719	The bad comments I hear about the Henry Big Boy outnumber the good comments by at least twenty to one. They make a super .22 levergun though. __________________ Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets replaced... SASS 47015

February 22, 2008, 01:29 AM	#33
robhof Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2007 Posts: 712	robhof A few of the locals here use B/p loads in their Rugers and lever guns, really smokes up the place, but it's period correct and a lot cheaper to load, as long as you use mildly compressed loads. Cleaning is a whole other boat though.

February 22, 2008, 04:42 PM	#34
fat old gun nut Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2007 Posts: 244	Rifle for cowboy shooting Am I wrong but 30-30 was mentioned. I thought only pistol calibers were permitted. PLEASE correct me I hate to wander around with miss information

February 23, 2008, 01:09 PM	#37
jwaldo4 Member Join Date: August 4, 2007 Location: northeast louisiana Posts: 25	ok you have blasted each others fire arms, all in jest "i hope" any way, is there a difference between the 45/70 govt. and the sharps 45/70? or is it just in my mind? i know the sharps was black powder but is that the only difference? __________________ ride hard, shoot strait, cowboy up

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February 20, 2008, 10:38 PM	#27
Chris_B Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Posts: 3,101	At 36, I'm still waiting for that time being able to do a thing, and doing it dangerously are two different things as I'm sure we all know from being around firearms. I said I can do it, not that I make a habit out of it The 455 block never was a problem. The 318 block that fell on my hand was, though

February 20, 2008, 10:41 PM	#28
Chris_B Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Posts: 3,101	mykeal- some guys own more than one gun I own more than one car

February 20, 2008, 11:24 PM	#29
RDF Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 1999 Location: West Liberty, Ky Posts: 133	I started with and still have a EAA Bounty Hunter and a U.S Firearms Rodeo both .38's, A puma 92 in .357 but shoot .38 w/ 158gr Bullets, That's what the SASS book said targets were set to be knock down with. Later I purchased the Spartan by Remmington in 12ga coach gun. You don't have to have every gun to start, go to a match and ask questions. My first match I was loaned a set of holster's with tuned Ruger's and a shotgun. Everbody I meet were very freindly and helpful. Rick Preacher's Son

February 21, 2008, 08:54 AM	#30
1858Remington Junior Member Join Date: January 28, 2008 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 12	For starting out I would suggest a brace of Ruger Vaqueros. The ruger is highly customizable, and there are PLENTY of aftermarket parts and gunslicking kits for them. If you want to go black, get a brace of 1858 Remmington style C&B revolvers, like those sold by Uberti and Pedisoli. The remmies are easier to change cylinders, and have a proper rear site, colts aren't and don't. Rifle wise, good beginner guns are the Marlin cowboy, and the Henry Big Boy rifles. The henry has an awsome action out of the box, and the marlin is easy to make have an awsome action. The henry is a little less expensive as well. I bought the Henry, I found it to be plesent to shoot and very accurate. Its selling point to me was the tube loading. The gate on the marlins always seem to bite my fingers. Shotgun wise, buy an old double. I got a stevens 311a for $35. or a new stoger. Word to the wise: Make sure your pistols and rifle are the same caliber!!! saves confusion on the range. hope this helps

February 22, 2008, 12:23 AM	#32
bobotech Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Posts: 60	What about the 87 shotgun? I am buying a Norinco 97 shotgun from Aimsurplus (199 dollars new in box, should be at my FFL next friday) but I saw one of those 87s at my local shop last week and was highly intrigued by the lever action on it.

February 22, 2008, 04:50 PM	#35
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	30-30's are not allowed. Pistol caliber only.

February 23, 2008, 01:31 PM	#38
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	In 1875 Sharps came out with the 45-75 Sharps, sometimes called the 45-70 Sharps but it was just a marketing ploy. It's the same as the 45-70 Govt.

February 23, 2008, 03:53 PM	#41
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Yep, along with 38-40 and 44-40. The 38-55 is a rifle cartridge. Repros can be had for around 800.