Bi state resident IL and IN

Prof Young · September 18, 2011, 04:34 PM

Shooters:

I own property in Indiana, work in Indiana during the academic year, pay state income taxes in Indiana, but my permanent address is in IL, where I also own property and pay income tax. So I have an IL drivers license and am not allowed an Indiana license or ID without surrendering my IL license.

So I'm at the shooting range and notice this post "It has been determined that it is unlawful for Illinois residents to bring handguns into Indiana for the purpose of hunting or target shooting." Really? What about home defense?

It's bad enough that I have to pay out of state fees for an Indiana hunting or fishing license. (Remember those IN state income taxes I pay that support the DNR.) But I can't bring a hand gun from IL to IN either? What the heck is going on here?

Prof Young

liberty -r- death · September 18, 2011, 04:59 PM

Did they state the statute this is based on? Is it state or federal law?

oneounceload · September 18, 2011, 07:53 PM

Why are you paying taxes to both states?

Perhaps you should declare yourself a resident of Indiana and makes several issues go away, your shooting ones being some of them

Hardcase · September 18, 2011, 09:21 PM

A couple of points:

You my not be able to just declare your state of residency, even if you own property in that state. Where you live makes a difference. I've been through this between California, Nevada and Idaho. California, in particular, was very grabby about wanting to claim residents.

As far as taxes go, every state, as far as I know, collects income tax from people who work in the state, regardless of your state of residence. There are exceptions, but not many. That's the trouble with working in one state and living in another - you can end up with a pretty unfair tax situation.

I'd also ask at the gun range how they determined that Illinois residents can't bring guns to the range. Perhaps they've misinterpreted the law. I'm sure that they'd be willing to talk to you about it - I can't imagine that they'd purposely want to keep people out.

Prof Young · September 18, 2011, 10:28 PM

Thought Providers:
I pay income tax in two states because of Illinois crazy income tax laws. As long as I am a resident of IL I have to pay state income tax there. Yea, I know tell me about how crazy that is.

I haven't made myself an IN resident because I still do most of my hunting in Illinois. I also do most of my gun buying when I am in Il, but come to think of it that doesn't make all that much difference. I could buy in IN just as easily if I was an IN resident. In fact I can buy long guns in IN now.

The guys who run the range are part timers, it's a DNR range. I guess I could contact the DNR and see what they say.

Thanks for the thoughts and help.

Live well, be safe
Prof Young

C0untZer0 · September 18, 2011, 10:36 PM

There is no law or statute referenced here.

I'd be interested in what it is.

I'm no lawyer, but it sounds like it goes against the Interstate Commerce Clause.

it would be one thing if Indiana had more restrictive firearms laws than Illinois (as if that's possible), but since they don't - restricting arms from Illinois seems to violate the Interstate Commerce Clause IMO...

bitttorrrent · September 19, 2011, 10:22 AM

Yes, i read a clause that IL residents can buy long guns in IN.

I guess cause rignt next door? So I am an Illinois resident with prop. in MI, but can still buy long guns at the Cabelas right across the border in IN.

Handguns - no.

jimbob86 · September 19, 2011, 10:36 AM

Where do you VOTE?

If it's Illinois, then you have your work cut out for you, don't you?

If it is Indiana, then why do you venture into Mordor at all? ..... Unless it is to liberate the place, and in that case, you are voting in the wrong place.

September 18, 2011, 04:34 PM	#1
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,404	Bi state resident IL and IN Shooters: I own property in Indiana, work in Indiana during the academic year, pay state income taxes in Indiana, but my permanent address is in IL, where I also own property and pay income tax. So I have an IL drivers license and am not allowed an Indiana license or ID without surrendering my IL license. So I'm at the shooting range and notice this post "It has been determined that it is unlawful for Illinois residents to bring handguns into Indiana for the purpose of hunting or target shooting." Really? What about home defense? It's bad enough that I have to pay out of state fees for an Indiana hunting or fishing license. (Remember those IN state income taxes I pay that support the DNR.) But I can't bring a hand gun from IL to IN either? What the heck is going on here? Prof Young

September 18, 2011, 09:21 PM	#4
Hardcase Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Idaho Posts: 1,909	A couple of points: You my not be able to just declare your state of residency, even if you own property in that state. Where you live makes a difference. I've been through this between California, Nevada and Idaho. California, in particular, was very grabby about wanting to claim residents. As far as taxes go, every state, as far as I know, collects income tax from people who work in the state, regardless of your state of residence. There are exceptions, but not many. That's the trouble with working in one state and living in another - you can end up with a pretty unfair tax situation. I'd also ask at the gun range how they determined that Illinois residents can't bring guns to the range. Perhaps they've misinterpreted the law. I'm sure that they'd be willing to talk to you about it - I can't imagine that they'd purposely want to keep people out. __________________ Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae

September 18, 2011, 10:28 PM	#5
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,404	Well . . . . Thought Providers: I pay income tax in two states because of Illinois crazy income tax laws. As long as I am a resident of IL I have to pay state income tax there. Yea, I know tell me about how crazy that is. I haven't made myself an IN resident because I still do most of my hunting in Illinois. I also do most of my gun buying when I am in Il, but come to think of it that doesn't make all that much difference. I could buy in IN just as easily if I was an IN resident. In fact I can buy long guns in IN now. The guys who run the range are part timers, it's a DNR range. I guess I could contact the DNR and see what they say. Thanks for the thoughts and help. Live well, be safe Prof Young

September 18, 2011, 04:59 PM	#2
liberty -r- death Member Join Date: December 10, 2009 Posts: 36	Did they state the statute this is based on? Is it state or federal law?

September 18, 2011, 07:53 PM	#3
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Why are you paying taxes to both states? Perhaps you should declare yourself a resident of Indiana and makes several issues go away, your shooting ones being some of them

September 18, 2011, 10:36 PM	#6
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	There is no law or statute referenced here. I'd be interested in what it is. I'm no lawyer, but it sounds like it goes against the Interstate Commerce Clause. it would be one thing if Indiana had more restrictive firearms laws than Illinois (as if that's possible), but since they don't - restricting arms from Illinois seems to violate the Interstate Commerce Clause IMO...

September 19, 2011, 10:22 AM	#7
bitttorrrent Senior Member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 703	Yes, i read a clause that IL residents can buy long guns in IN. I guess cause rignt next door? So I am an Illinois resident with prop. in MI, but can still buy long guns at the Cabelas right across the border in IN. Handguns - no.

September 19, 2011, 10:36 AM	#8
jimbob86 Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2007 Location: All the way to NEBRASKA Posts: 8,722	Where do you VOTE? If it's Illinois, then you have your work cut out for you, don't you? If it is Indiana, then why do you venture into Mordor at all? ..... Unless it is to liberate the place, and in that case, you are voting in the wrong place.