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Well, we just have your word on that. You still are not providing us with any solid documentation. Lots of bozos work in businesses but it doesn't mean they know what they are talking about. Maybe it's like a lot of businesses--a chief or two and a bunch of "fly by night" employees.
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I ALWAYS carry 11+1 I used to cycle all rounds thru my firearm every morning to just make sure the action was working nice and smooth. That was until I read on here that working the spring will work harden the metal of the spring then eventually cause the spring to fail. NO need to work the spring. I now leave my firearm fully loaded 11+1. I hope and pray that I never have to use any of the 12 rounds that I carry, but like I like to tell people, I want the best odds possible, that is why I carry a S/W .40 and I go to the range at least weekly and put around 500 rounds down range when I do.
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I am tired of hearing guys talk about wearing the spring out by having the gun +1, last time I checked my cc gun was a tool, I couldn't care less about holster wear or bumps and bruises, I carry my fullsize S+W M+P .40 15+1 and thats with no real safety, makes me think a little more and pay more attention. If my gun wears out or looks bad I will trade it in and get another, money no object...
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One little detail(I only read page 1,so forgive me if I restate something)
How do you load that +1 round? If you drop a round in the chamber and then drop the slide,some handguns,like the 1911 are designed to have the round feed up under the extractor.It is a bad idea to have them spring over the rim.The extractor does not like it. |
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To answer the original question,
1. Yes, I always carry +1. 2. No, I do not top off the mag to full capacity. I keep those mags loaded at 90% capacity to lessen jamming potential and increase spring life. So for my primary carry Glock 30, that's 9 in the mag, and for my AR-15, with the 30-round mags, that's 26-27.
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A weapon is designed to function in a certain manner, if you don't trust it will work, find another one that you do trust. They wouldn't make the mags to hold X number of rounds if they didn't intend for them to be used that way! Look at it this way - Is their anything else you own that you don't use to capacity or the way it was designed? Maybe you put just 3 slices of bread in your 4 slice toaster, or no more than 15gals of gas in your 18gal tank, or just $90k in your savings account because the FDIC insures it to a max of $100k? Obviously not and the argument for "under loading" your weapon is just as silly as these examples. Like I said before, when I go to work (and any other time I put on a gun) I have my guns loaded to full capacity - one in the chamber, mag topped off, and all of my spares loaded to capacity - as do all the other LEO's I work with and know. Anybody else that carries a gun should do it the same way we do, not because we're cops or anything stupid like that, but BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE! |
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I want the most ammo capacity that the gun was designed to give me, unless the gun has proven itself unreliable to be carried +1. Having a close friend that was in a shoot-out "back in the day" with two nefariously felonious individuals, and having him expend all the rounds he had on him that day, except one, to bring them to a cessation of hostilities tends to alter one's perception in to the matter. In short, he fired through three magazines and the last bad guy stopped without him having to fire his last round, which was chambered in his gun. He was down to his last bullet, number 22, as he carried 7 Round magazines then. You never know how many you're going to need, so carry what you're comfortable with. Myself, I won't carry less than one reload and a BUG with a reload, if given a choice. Biker Last edited by BikerRN; December 26, 2008 at 09:08 AM. |
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It tends to induce shaking, sweating and defecating one's drawers son. You may need more than one mag in Po'dunk, let alone Iraq. See my previous post about the friend that needed all three magazines and was down to his last round. BTW: the friend I'm referring to was a "crack shot" and still is. He is the man I would go to if I had a family member hostage and needed someone to make "that shot" with a handgun. Now we are all smart enough to know that a handgun is not the optimal choice here, and that one does not willingly try to get in to gunfights, but hey, stuff happens that we have no control over. It's best to be prepared. Biker |
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I'm no where near prepared enough for WWIII. I don't even consider myself prepared for day to day activities and just consider myself "lucky". I pray each and every day that I never have another "Armed Encounter" but the odds don't favor me. Now I have to get ready for work. The good thing is, 12/26/2008 has been declared a Federal Holiday by Executive Order. As a Federal LEO I'm making more money today than I normally would. That will pay for more bullets to train with on my own time, and go towards a shooting school, like LFI or Gunsight. Biker |
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The man who carries a Glock 17 with only 17 rounds is a loser as compared to the man who carries a Glock 19 with 16 as compared to 15? This argument is getting a touch silly.
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LOL. He he he--I left myself wide open for that one.
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I think some of these "good shots" that we have on the forum who only need 5 or 6 rounds in a shoot out, have never been in a shoot out. They watch too many John and Clint movies.
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Full mag and one in the chamber. Then two mags carried on my support side.
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Much ado about newt;
I have gone to the range every 6 moths or so, for a while not an exact time.
Put 3 IDPA targets on a single range, draw and fire, mix and match, a couple of rounds here and there, then empty the pistol on one target! Reload from lock back, one round, two rounds, 6, till just a few are left, take cover, head shots only, not quick. Now when empty, strip and clean my Glock 19, replace with new factory 127g +P+ WW rounds. Never had any malfunction of any kind. Full gun always! |
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I had a P89 with both mags. loaded to the max, on the shelf for 15 years, yea thats right, 15 years. Went to the range and shot both mags with NO problems. Got my CCW with it.
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Always +1
Practice, focus, and a health fear of what could happen if I ever underestimate my gun's potential for destruction (I carry a 45 ACP) keep me safety minded enough to carry +1.
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I load the magazines to capasity and chamber the first round leaving them down one. I really don't know the scientific data, but have always been taught to download magazines by 1 or 2 to reduce spring fatigue.
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