My Heizer Derringer set

peggysue · February 10, 2017, 05:32 AM

I have had my .223 Heizer for a couple years. Bought a 7.62X39 barrel and now a 45C/410 barrel. I think it is a nice little set. They were supposed to come out with a .308 but never did. Perhaps I need a display box for them? Just part of my derringer collection. I will never shoot them.

old bear · February 10, 2017, 07:04 AM

peggysue, interesting collection you've started there. Your not even a little tempted to shoot it once?

Skans · February 10, 2017, 09:11 AM

I like your Heizer collection. I want same, but in all stainless!

One thing, I wish Heizer made the PAK1 Barrel without the ports - seems to me a lot of the energy would be lost through the ports, especially in such a short barrel. A 308 in that size??? I might even be scared to shoot something like that.

peggysue · February 10, 2017, 05:30 PM

The Heizer is all stainless however they coat them in black. They said there was going to be a 308 however it never made it.

Prof Young · February 12, 2017, 10:33 PM

Peggysue:

How many derringers are in your collection? I recall seeing your Double Taps in a previous post.

Life is good.

Prof Young

peggysue · February 13, 2017, 08:41 PM

Every derringer I could find the last 20 years except for older antique one. If you look below my Wall of Diversity on this link #35 quite a few are there on the shelf.

https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...33#post6416633

sgms · February 14, 2017, 05:56 PM

Peggy Sue, you do have quit a wall of color and diversity there

. I like, I like! I've looked at a number of the new derringers thinking they would really be fun to play with but it seems every time I decide to go ahead and buy one one of the old ones shows up with a price I am willing to pay and I end up with what is essentially another safe queen. But what the heck, I really do like the looks of the old remingtons, sharps, and earlier percussion pocket derringers a lot to. Sure not like I'm short on ranger toys and need another one.

Prof Young · February 15, 2017, 09:40 PM

Peggysue:

I see them (derringers) on the shelves below. Fun stuff.

Just to the left of the shelf, what is the funky little gun with the banana magazine?

Life is good
Prof Young

DMK · February 16, 2017, 08:44 AM

I love how they ported the 7.62x39 barrel, just to make double sure that the fireball will blind you good.

DMK · February 16, 2017, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Perhaps I need a display box for them?

Quote:

Every derringer I could find the last 20 years except for older antique one.

You should put them in a wall mount glass case. With each one labeled with manufacturer and caliber, that would make an interesting display.

peggysue · February 16, 2017, 05:04 PM

Been fun collecting them...the tan one is a failed USFA Zip pistol.. I have 2.

Carmady · February 16, 2017, 07:34 PM

That looks like a Buffalo Arms M-1 to the right of the BJT/ADC DA38.

I've seen pictures of a derringer similar to the Buffalo Arms, with a few differences; sight/s, and maybe lock location and pivot point. I forget the name, but I believe the company bought the tooling and made some changes. Same grips, iirc.

The BA has a nasty bite with .38SPL. There isn't much rounded off where you hand goes. The BA did have a decent trigger, as derringer triggers go.

peggysue · February 17, 2017, 05:09 AM

Some Derringers I have except for the Boberg in the middle.

TruthTellers · February 19, 2017, 04:14 PM

What's that small one between the COP and the Doubletap?

Model12Win · February 19, 2017, 05:22 PM

Awesome little guns, and in x39, a devastating manstopper for sure.

Carmady · February 19, 2017, 09:12 PM

"What's that small one between the COP and the Doubletap? "

I think it's called the Stinger, a 1-shot 9mm.

There's another Stinger, unrelated, by Braverman and ADC (American Derringer) that looks like a pen.

Skans · February 22, 2017, 10:28 AM

That's a Downsizer WSP - I believe a single shot .45acp. Very cool!

Carmady · February 22, 2017, 11:28 AM

"That's a Downsizer WSP"

They do look a little different. Here's a couple of pics of the Liberator Stinger 9mm.

TruthTellers · February 22, 2017, 01:01 PM

I know they're probably useless and are single shots, but they're so small! I want one.

Skans · February 22, 2017, 06:24 PM

That stinger is truly a legal zip gun.

February 10, 2017, 05:30 PM	#4
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	The Heizer is all stainless however they coat them in black. They said there was going to be a 308 however it never made it. Last edited by peggysue; February 10, 2017 at 05:49 PM.

February 12, 2017, 10:33 PM	#5
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,403	So how many . . . Peggysue: How many derringers are in your collection? I recall seeing your Double Taps in a previous post. Life is good. Prof Young

February 14, 2017, 05:56 PM	#7
sgms Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2010 Location: Arizona or Ohio depending Posts: 1,021	Peggy Sue, you do have quit a wall of color and diversity there. I like, I like! I've looked at a number of the new derringers thinking they would really be fun to play with but it seems every time I decide to go ahead and buy one one of the old ones shows up with a price I am willing to pay and I end up with what is essentially another safe queen. But what the heck, I really do like the looks of the old remingtons, sharps, and earlier percussion pocket derringers a lot to. Sure not like I'm short on ranger toys and need another one.

February 15, 2017, 09:40 PM	#8
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,403	Lotta Derringers . . . Peggysue: I see them (derringers) on the shelves below. Fun stuff. Just to the left of the shelf, what is the funky little gun with the banana magazine? Life is good Prof Young

February 16, 2017, 08:44 AM	#9
DMK Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: Over the hills and far, far away Posts: 3,206	I love how they ported the 7.62x39 barrel, just to make double sure that the fireball will blind you good. __________________ - Homeland Security begins at home: Support your Second Amendment - www.gunowners.org - www.saf.org - act.nraila.org - www.grnc.org

February 10, 2017, 07:04 AM	#2
old bear Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2009 Location: Not close enough to the beach Posts: 1,477	peggysue, interesting collection you've started there. Your not even a little tempted to shoot it once?

February 10, 2017, 09:11 AM	#3
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I like your Heizer collection. I want same, but in all stainless! One thing, I wish Heizer made the PAK1 Barrel without the ports - seems to me a lot of the energy would be lost through the ports, especially in such a short barrel. A 308 in that size??? I might even be scared to shoot something like that.

February 13, 2017, 08:41 PM	#6
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Every derringer I could find the last 20 years except for older antique one. If you look below my Wall of Diversity on this link #35 quite a few are there on the shelf. https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...33#post6416633

February 16, 2017, 05:04 PM	#11
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Been fun collecting them...the tan one is a failed USFA Zip pistol.. I have 2.

February 16, 2017, 07:34 PM	#12
Carmady Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: on the lam Posts: 1,735	That looks like a Buffalo Arms M-1 to the right of the BJT/ADC DA38. I've seen pictures of a derringer similar to the Buffalo Arms, with a few differences; sight/s, and maybe lock location and pivot point. I forget the name, but I believe the company bought the tooling and made some changes. Same grips, iirc. The BA has a nasty bite with .38SPL. There isn't much rounded off where you hand goes. The BA did have a decent trigger, as derringer triggers go.

February 17, 2017, 05:09 AM	#13
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Some Derringers I have except for the Boberg in the middle.

February 19, 2017, 04:14 PM	#14
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,883	What's that small one between the COP and the Doubletap?

February 19, 2017, 05:22 PM	#15
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Awesome little guns, and in x39, a devastating manstopper for sure.

February 19, 2017, 09:12 PM	#16
Carmady Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: on the lam Posts: 1,735	"What's that small one between the COP and the Doubletap? " I think it's called the Stinger, a 1-shot 9mm. There's another Stinger, unrelated, by Braverman and ADC (American Derringer) that looks like a pen. Last edited by Carmady; February 22, 2017 at 11:30 AM.

February 22, 2017, 10:28 AM	#17
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	That's a Downsizer WSP - I believe a single shot .45acp. Very cool!

February 22, 2017, 01:01 PM	#19
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,883	I know they're probably useless and are single shots, but they're so small! I want one.

February 22, 2017, 06:24 PM	#20
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	That stinger is truly a legal zip gun.