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Old December 25, 2018, 12:17 PM   #1
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M1917 restoration.

A friend of mine bought a spoterized M1917. He asked me if it could be restored. The metal is factory original in finish. The stock was cut down, handguards gone as are both barrel bands. The front sight has the ears cut off rather crudely. Hack saw and file cut. It never had a scope on it as there are no holes and the rear sight is intact. .

It's actually pretty accurate once I got him to abandon light bullets with it.

He's asking me how much to restore it. I told him ball park would be $400. He paid $165 for it at a pawn shop so total cost would be $575 to $600 or so.

Then he asked what it would be worth post restoration. I don't have a clue. I guess whatever someone would be willing to pay for it.
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Old December 25, 2018, 01:54 PM   #2
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What do you mean by restore? I'm guessing your figure of $400 was a bit on the conservative side if you want to bring it back to full military dress.
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Old December 26, 2018, 08:47 AM   #3
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The big issue for P17s is the stock. For a decent original stock you can spend more nowadays than you paid for the whole gun 10 years ago. Many stocks offered at "P17" are really P14 with the volley sight taken off. You can get reproductions by now for around $200, but they don't do much for collector value.
The front sight carrier is cheap, Numrich has it for $20.
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Old December 26, 2018, 12:49 PM   #4
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An original M1917 stock runs $350 on up. That is your big expense.

Restored if its a nice one is $750 - $1000 (condition, E, R or W) original parts stamps with E, W, R or mix.
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Old December 27, 2018, 06:47 PM   #5
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I don't see using an original stock. I mean it's a parts gun then anyway.
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Old December 27, 2018, 07:39 PM   #6
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If a reproduction stock is available again that is new. Boyds made one some time back, oddly for them badly, took a lot of fitting.
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Old December 27, 2018, 09:17 PM   #7
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I stand corrected. They are not reproduction stocks but actual Remington Model 34 stocks. Slightly different than the 1917 stock and requires a small amount of fitting.
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Old December 28, 2018, 03:04 PM   #8
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Link?

Model 34 hunting? I am aware of the Model 30s.

I did come across this listing - I suspect a lot of fitting and of course finishing.

https://www.cottagecraftworks.com/en...k-p17-p14-1917
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Old December 28, 2018, 10:36 PM   #9
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Remington Model 1934 Honduran Contract
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Old December 29, 2018, 01:43 PM   #10
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The stocks are out there. They pop up on eBay from time to time. The key to doing it as cheaply as possible is to be patient and don't overbid. I might take months or even years, but it can be restored for less than you think.
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Old December 29, 2018, 02:13 PM   #11
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Generally speaking, restoring any milsurp to as issued configuration has gotten prohibitively expensive. It's mostly in the wee metal bits like that front sight assembly. Runs $15 or $20, depending on condition, without a sight blade($4.55 each. And you need a spline, a key, and a pin. $3.15 and $2.60, that they don't have, respectively.), at Gunparts. A lower band, the stacking swivel and screw that holds it on runs $18.05 plus shipping, etc. Adds up quickly. And you have a rebuilt rifle that will never be worth what an original non-sported rifle is worth.
There's an Eddystone P-17, with no bids, on Gunbroker at $800.
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Old December 29, 2018, 02:38 PM   #12
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Got it, forgot about that one. Different caliber of course.
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he stocks are out there. They pop up on eBay from time to time. The key to doing it as cheaply as possible is to be patient and don't overbid. I might take months or even years, but it can be restored for less than you think.
People that put the stocks up know what they are worth, even poor ones are going for $350.

The $275 is likely the best you will do for a non OEM shooter restoral.
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Old December 29, 2018, 06:06 PM   #14
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I told him, and gave him the sights. I didn't see handguards on that sight
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Handguards can be found, matching them up with a new finish of course has some challenges.

Nothing easy about the process for this kind of re work.

Another way is to buy a beater with a stock. Usually you try to get the right stock for the mfg of the receiver/barrel.
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And I laugh at how many firearms I have built and restored from parts purchased from eBay and paid for with PayPal. I know their politics, but it's the only place to find some things. Numrich and others are either out or don't even list it. Took years to find all the correct parts for a 1907 Lee Enfield I***.
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People that put the stocks up know what they are worth, even poor ones are going for $350.

The $275 is likely the best you will do for a non OEM shooter restoral.
Not all of them, like I said have to be patient.
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Old December 30, 2018, 05:08 AM   #18
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I got a really nice Eddystone stock a couple months ago on ebay, really nice in it looked unissued. $187.50, which I didn't think was too bad.
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Old December 30, 2018, 11:32 AM   #19
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I would like to see pictures. PM me if you would.
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Old December 31, 2018, 02:25 PM   #20
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I tossed numbers at him and they didn't fly. Guess that's it.
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Old January 2, 2019, 10:18 PM   #21
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I figured that would happen.
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Old January 2, 2019, 11:19 PM   #22
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I also tossed 20 of my 190 grain Sierra BTMK loads at him. He found out just how accurate that gun really is. He had been shooting Greek ball and I told him those don't much like light bullets. 60.3 grains of H4831sc, he shot two 5 shot 1-1/2 inch groups with open sights and his old eyes.
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I will have to try that. I have done some good shoots in the 168-175 gr area and then fell off the wagon. I had not tired the 190s. I like H4831. Buy it in 8 lb jugs.

Original barrel or replacement?
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Old January 4, 2019, 04:15 PM   #24
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My 1917 shoots 150s great, but it was converted to a .300 H&H before I owned it. However, it still has the original military barrel.
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